Game Day Swans Board Cricket Thread - Ashes 25/26

[Kiama Chris]

Yep, I read the whole statement.

And yes, there was some context and nuance.

But the underlying message was that he was treated differently at the selection table & in the press because he’s Muslim.

Rubbish - through his career, he he was dropped when out of form. Not because he’s Muslim.
And the scrutiny of his back injury was absolutely nothing to do with his religion. It was fair scrutiny of a 39 year old selected despite poor form & contributing nothing to an Ashes test due to injury that he may have carried into the game.

I like Uzzi. And he’s been a solid test cricketer. But I found that particular outburst needless victimhood & I think Jason Gillespie got it right when he called it a temper tantrum.

Problem is that if it isn't said then (whether it's agreed with or not) when he has the ear of the press it may as well never be said. You might prefer that (absolutely your right) but I think it needed to be said.
Reminds me a little of Goodes' situation when so many found "reasons" that it wasn't racism.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Problem is that if it isn't said then (whether it's agreed with or not) when he has the ear of the press it may as well never be said. You might prefer that (absolutely your right) but I think it needed to be said.
Reminds me a little of Goodes' situation when so many found "reasons" that it wasn't racism.

Khawaja and Goodes have nothing in common as far as I can see.

I absolutely disagree that “it needed to be said” - as crying wolf about racial stereotyping helps nobody.

And on this occasion, I really feel it is crying wolf. The Poms preparation for the cricket has been subject to immense scrutiny in the press …. far more so than Khawaja. Is that racial stereotyping?

People are calling for Cam Green to be dropped. Laubuchagne is copping it too. It’s part of being a professional sportsman.

I’m actually a bit surprised at how disappointed I was in Khawaja’s statements. Not quite why it just really rankled with me.

 

[rustycrate]

Khawaja and Goodes have nothing in common as far as I can see.

I absolutely disagree that “it needed to be said” - as crying wolf about racial stereotyping helps nobody.

And on this occasion, I really feel it is crying wolf. The Poms preparation for the cricket has been subject to immense scrutiny in the press …. far more so than Khawaja. Is that racial stereotyping?

People are calling for Cam Green to be dropped. Laubuchagne is copping it too. It’s part of being a professional sportsman.

I’m actually a bit surprised at how disappointed I was in Khawaja’s statements. Not quite why it just really rankled with me.

Green should already be dropped. There is no calling. For there to be calling he must have a tiny piece of reason as to why he should be in the team.
I have a tiny piece as to why I should be in the team. Same as Green. I am Australian. But that is it. My form is the same as Green's. It does not warrant selection.
Why are people not talking about my non selection same as Green?

 

[Kiama Chris]

Khawaja and Goodes have nothing in common as far as I can see.

I absolutely disagree that “it needed to be said” - as crying wolf about racial stereotyping helps nobody.

And on this occasion, I really feel it is crying wolf. The Poms preparation for the cricket has been subject to immense scrutiny in the press …. far more so than Khawaja. Is that racial stereotyping?

People are calling for Cam Green to be dropped. Laubuchagne is copping it too. It’s part of being a professional sportsman.

I’m actually a bit surprised at how disappointed I was in Khawaja’s statements. Not quite why it just really rankled with me.

Sorry DQ, I'll take a wild guess at why it rankled. Because you felt attacked by it. Or people you admire were attacked.
Goodes' situation was far, far worse but the excuses are similar.
Perhaps we should close this off or the mods move it as it's not really about cricket.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Remarkable how good Harry Brook is when he decides to play properly.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Remarkable how good Harry Brook is when he decides to play properly.

Stokes is not that bad as a captain (though a bit weak tactically) but McCullum seems to be a pretty poor manager.

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

Can’t bowl can’t bat. First picked.

That’s cam green for ya.

 

[Punts]

Batting wicket

Will go the 5 days

We look mentally checked out atm

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

Just rubbish park cricket bowling by green.

At least he scored a half century …. Off his bowling

 

[Punts]

wtf are they not playing?

This is bullshit

 

[Punts]

I could be way off but has Sydney’s weather become average the last decade?

Used to be wear everyone wanted to live

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I could be way off but has Sydney’s weather become average the last decade?

Used to be wear everyone wanted to live

I reckon you’re right. Ditto Brisbane.

 

[Wolfgang West]

I wish Usman had bowed out gracefully …. instead of coming up with the absurd statement that he’s a victim of racism for being questioned over his decision to play golf (and hurt his back) the day before the Adelaide test.

Could not agree more but please don't deny he has been targeted racially previously.

 

[Wolfgang West]

I could be way off but has Sydney’s weather become average the last decade?

Used to be wear everyone wanted to live

Still the best city in Australia. Would live there in a heartbeat in comparison to the shithole that Melbourne has become. Only thing keeping me here is family. Melbourne is a man made violent lawless cesspit.

 

[Membling]

Batting wicket

Will go the 5 days

We look mentally checked out atm

SCG curator got spooked.

Expect this to be a road

 

[Punts]

Still the best city in Australia. Would live there in a heartbeat in comparison to the shithole that Melbourne has become. Only thing keeping me here is family. Melbourne is a man made violent lawless cesspit.

Couldn’t agree more

I’m only in Melbourne due to business and family

Some of my family live in Maroochydore , would move there tomorrow if the misses wasn’t so close to her ****ijg mum lol.

Be up in Sunshine Coast hopefully mid 40s

 

[zyzzbruh]

Khawaja and Goodes have nothing in common as far as I can see.

I absolutely disagree that “it needed to be said” - as crying wolf about racial stereotyping helps nobody.

And on this occasion, I really feel it is crying wolf. The Poms preparation for the cricket has been subject to immense scrutiny in the press …. far more so than Khawaja. Is that racial stereotyping?

People are calling for Cam Green to be dropped. Laubuchagne is copping it too. It’s part of being a professional sportsman.

I’m actually a bit surprised at how disappointed I was in Khawaja’s statements. Not quite why it just really rankled with me.

People weren't quite sure why Goodes rankled them either, but they labelled him a flog anyway. So label Kuwaja a flog and be done with it I guess. The ol aussie way of 'we're not racist, we just don't want to hear about it'.

You can take it to the bank that he's had to deal with racial discrimination countless times through his career. Not wanting to hear about it is a you problem I'd say.

 

[bedford]

Who else have you annoyed this year?
Nool
Me
Everybody
Everybody
Sounds like the Blues Bros.

And he's there again
I even annoy myself

 

[joeykanga]

Yep, I read the whole statement.

And yes, there was some context and nuance.

But the underlying message was that he was treated differently at the selection table & in the press because he’s Muslim.

Rubbish - through his career, he he was dropped when out of form. Not because he’s Muslim.
And the scrutiny of his back injury was absolutely nothing to do with his religion. It was fair scrutiny of a 39 year old selected despite poor form & contributing nothing to an Ashes test due to injury that he may have carried into the game.

I like Uzzi. And he’s been a solid test cricketer. But I found that particular outburst needless victimhood & I think Jason Gillespie got it right when he called it a temper tantrum.

This is rewind play rewind play drivel

 

[joeykanga]

Who else have you annoyed this year?
Nool
Me
Everybody
Everybody
Sounds like the Blues Bros.

Dont forget me. Im befuddled

 

[McGowan3]

Did you listen/read the entire segment? There was a lot more nuance and context than that.

Watched all of his press conference that went for around 50 minutes. Articulate and heart felt. Also, he said that he would have been happy to bow out earlier over the past year or so but in discussions with the coach( McDonald), he was told that they wanted him to continue on till we tour India.

People should understand how difficult his journey has been, as a non drinking muslim, especially with the culture that existed in cricket when he was just starting out. He also said that things had improved heaps since that time but had some way to go.

What strikes me about him most, is that, despite the difficulties he has faced and the issues about race and politics that he he has brought up, there is not a hint of malice in him.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

People weren't quite sure why Goodes rankled them either, but they labelled him a flog anyway. So label Kuwaja a flog and be done with it I guess. The ol aussie way of 'we're not racist, we just don't want to hear about it'.

You can take it to the bank that he's had to deal with racial discrimination countless times through his career. Not wanting to hear about it is a you problem I'd say.

I won’t reply to anything further on this topic.

But I don’t appreciate the intimation in your post.

 

[Tedeski]

Still the best city in Australia. Would live there in a heartbeat in comparison to the shithole that Melbourne has become. Only thing keeping me here is family. Melbourne is a man made violent lawless cesspit.

I've run my family business here for 40 years.
100% spot on!
A leaderless shit hole.
Sort of like the Saints.

 

[PJ68]

I've run my family business here for 40 years.
100% spot on!
A leaderless shit hole.
Sort of like the Saints.

I'm from Sydney and visit Melbourne probably a dozen times a year (also not one that is into the whole stupid rivalry)

Definately noticed Melbourne is getting worse each visit.

Hopefully they can address it soon

 

[Wolfgang West]

I'm from Sydney and visit Melbourne probably a dozen times a year (also not one that is into the whole stupid rivalry)

Definately noticed Melbourne is getting worse each visit.

Hopefully they can address it soon

Can’t be fixed. It is what it is now unfortunately. Anyway discussion for another thread I suppose but you can leave me out of that because frankly it’s so bloody depressing for some who were once so bloody proud of this city.