Media Swans Talk in the Media 2024

[Ticky009]

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[Daniel B]

Just wondering if the media have caught on that Adam Goodes played 300 games yet?

 

[Ticky009]

Swans Talk starts 13:24mins into the video

 

[Ticky009]

 

[bedford]

Brandon Jack

Brandon Jack

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

i must say ive never rated him has done a dosier on how to stop our midfield , its on Code .
Maybe he should keep his thoughts to himself ! if i was the club id be filthy

 

[Callipygian]

Brandon Jack i must say ive never rated him has done a dosier on how to stop our midfield , its on Code .
Maybe he should keep his thoughts to himself ! if i was the club id be filthy

Interesting.

I think it's fine. He's not close to the club any more and is no better placed than a thousand other footy industry people and less well qualified than your average opposition analyst. Explaining what is really going on in the minds of footy coaches and clubs is one of the most useful things that media people can do in my opinion. So much better than some random "journalist" talking about possible trades or how long someone might be injured for or giving their opinion about some other thing they either know nothing about or no more than you or I do.

The debate will be happening among match committees and between footy pundits across the land as it is. We're just being brought into the conversation a bit more. There's nothing to say BJ is right or that his plans would work or than another team will be capable of executing them.

 

[FreeAgent1]

Brandon Jack i must say ive never rated him has done a dosier on how to stop our midfield , its on Code .
Maybe he should keep his thoughts to himself ! if i was the club id be filthy

People better at it than Brandon are actually trying… rather than commenting on it.

People who watch 1000s of hours of behind the goal vision only available to clubs, for leading patters ahead of the ball and defensive structures behind the ball.

Professional people.

This is commentary. It’s not an issue

 

[The King!]

Brandon Jack i must say ive never rated him has done a dosier on how to stop our midfield , its on Code .
Maybe he should keep his thoughts to himself ! if i was the club id be filthy

Why?

Opposition coaches aren't sitting around giving up on trying to stop us.

They probably won't pay the sub fee to get B Jacks thoughts.

 

[Daniel B]

Brandon Jack i must say ive never rated him has done a dosier on how to stop our midfield , its on Code .
Maybe he should keep his thoughts to himself ! if i was the club id be filthy

Got any quotes?

 

[monopoly19]

Not sure where to post this, but a 3rd McCartin? https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/fr...-the-heads-of-afl-scouts-20240612-p5jl88.html

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Brandon Jack i must say ive never rated him has done a dosier on how to stop our midfield , its on Code .
Maybe he should keep his thoughts to himself ! if i was the club id be filthy

Seriously. What a f-grade tosser... why didn't he write this about geelongs midfield in 2022.

Should be ashamed of himself. As a supporter. You never do anything that would jeopardise your sides chance of winning a flag.

Hope noone reads it. Flog!!

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Couple of turkeys have popped their heads up well ahead of Thanksgiving.

Jack does not work for the Club, has no IP and is entitled to express his views.

 

[RUNVS]

Amarety gets briefly talked about here



at the 4:12 mark.

 

[Ticky009]

Teams Discussion: Proposes that Wicks might be dropped due to a 'quiet game' for Hamling...

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Round 15 Team Tips

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Team Tips

www.foxsports.com.au

What they got right & wrong: The positives & negatives from Round 14

Each game summarised.

www.sen.com.au

 

[RUNVS]

Teams Discussion: Proposes that Wicks might be dropped due to a 'quiet game' for Hamling...

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Round 15 Team Tips

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Team Tips

www.foxsports.com.au

What they got right & wrong: The positives & negatives from Round 14

Each game summarised.

www.sen.com.au

Hamling may be playing well in the reserves but dropping Wicks for Hamling would be a mistake as it would make our forward line too tall.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Teams Discussion: Proposes that Wicks might be dropped due to a 'quiet game' for Hamling...

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Round 15 Team Tips

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Team Tips

www.foxsports.com.au

What they got right & wrong: The positives & negatives from Round 14

Each game summarised.

www.sen.com.au

Fox Sports has lost the run of itself.

 

[caesar88]

I read the Brandon Jack

Brandon Jack

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

article on CODE. It's no secret I am a midfield nuffy (NOT an expert, as I have been accused of considering myself to be!!), so I absolutely loved it. He added no hyperbole and paid everyone their dues, and pretty much just analysed a bunch of different scenarios from the Geelong & Adelaide games, explained how our mids set up in them, and how he would try to prevent those scenarios if he were an opposition coach.

I'll try to summarise it as best as I can for those who don't have CODE:

Starts by going through the personnel and introduces them with one sentence: Heeney ("Main hit-to at stoppages"), Warner ("Starts more defensive side at stoppages and runs through"), Gulden ("Works back hard"), Rowbottom ("Disciplined, selfless"), Grundy ("Full 360-degree ruckman"), Papley ("will usually sweep at centre bounces") & Adams ("will let you get sucked into the contest")

Describes our strengths as ruck dominance & pro-active mids (mentions how formerly reactive we were), balanced & clearly defined roles, and multiple weapons at forward 50 stoppages.

Describes our weaknesses as "can get caught running forward and leaving the stoppage early", susceptible to elite opposition pressure, our slow starts & lapses in games (this is nothing new), and we become predictable when Grundy's out.

He then starts analysing the various examples of our set-ups, and goes on to offer tactics he'd deploy to hurt us. Hard to quote them here as he's gone so in-depth but if there's two constant themes throughout it would be: Stop Heeney from being the hit-to by blocking his run at the ball, and try to take Rowbottom where you want him at the contest, not where the Swans want him. Because Heeney's the "focal point" you need to try and make the ball drop where he is not. And because Rowbottom is the "anchor" you need to try and take him towards the other mids so he can't hold firm and keep the space for them.

(Jack does note multiple times that even in doing the above, you're likely opening up another bit of space for an alternative mid like a "sweeper" like Adams to get to the ball instead, but at least then it's not the Swans "dictating the terms.")

He also makes an interesting note that Grundy seems to rarely tap over his head, so whichever way his body is facing is where the ball will go.

That's about the best I can do folks. Hopefully someone can find a way to get around the paywall and share it, was a really interesting read. (Well at least I thought so.)

No Cookies | CODE Sports

No Cookies | CODE Sports

www.codesports.com.au

 

[bedford]

I read the Brandon Jack article on CODE. It's no secret I am a midfield nuffy (NOT an expert, as I have been accused of considering myself to be!!), so I absolutely loved it. He added no hyperbole and paid everyone their dues, and pretty much just analysed a bunch of different scenarios from the Geelong & Adelaide games, explained how our mids set up in them, and how he would try to prevent those scenarios if he were an opposition coach.

I'll try to summarise it as best as I can for those who don't have CODE:

Starts by going through the personnel and introduces them with one sentence: Heeney ("Main hit-to at stoppages"), Warner ("Starts more defensive side at stoppages and runs through"), Gulden ("Works back hard"), Rowbottom ("Disciplined, selfless"), Grundy ("Full 360-degree ruckman"), Papley ("will usually sweep at centre bounces") & Adams ("will let you get sucked into the contest")

Describes our strengths as ruck dominance & pro-active mids (mentions how formerly reactive we were), balanced & clearly defined roles, and multiple weapons at forward 50 stoppages.

Describes our weaknesses as "can get caught running forward and leaving the stoppage early", susceptible to elite opposition pressure, our slow starts & lapses in games (this is nothing new), and we become predictable when Grundy's out.

He then starts analysing the various examples of our set-ups, and goes on to offer tactics he'd deploy to hurt us. Hard to quote them here as he's gone so in-depth but if there's two constant themes throughout it would be: Stop Heeney from being the hit-to by blocking his run at the ball, and try to take Rowbottom where you want him at the contest, not where the Swans want him. Because Heeney's the "focal point" you need to try and make the ball drop where he is not. And because Rowbottom is the "anchor" you need to try and take him towards the other mids so he can't hold firm and keep the space for them.

(Jack does note multiple times that even in doing the above, you're likely opening up another bit of space for an alternative mid like a "sweeper" like Adams to get to the ball instead, but at least then it's not the Swans "dictating the terms.")

He also makes an interesting note that Grundy seems to rarely tap over his head, so whichever way his body is facing is where the ball will go.

That's about the best I can do folks. Hopefully someone can find a way to get around the paywall and share it, was a really interesting read. (Well at least I thought so.)

No Cookies | CODE Sports

No Cookies | CODE Sports

www.codesports.com.au

Ive got Code , still don't have to like it . Absolute traitor

 

[the hypnotoad]

Does Geelong's bye curse pop up again? Who is Melbourne's new match-winner?

What's the big question your AFL club must answer in Round 15? Will the Blues make amends after Round 7's statistical dominance? Does Geelong's bye curse pop up again? Who is Melbourne's new match-winner?

www.espn.com.au

 

[the hypnotoad]

Ive got Code , still don't have to like it . Absolute traitor

boll0cks!

 

[Cadsky]

Teams Discussion: Proposes that Wicks might be dropped due to a 'quiet game' for Hamling...

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Round 15 Team Tips

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Team Tips

www.foxsports.com.au

What they got right & wrong: The positives & negatives from Round 14

Each game summarised.

www.sen.com.au

Wicks for Hamling. Wow. Now I've heard it all. Wonder if we'll drop McLean for Cleary to make his debut too.

 

[bedford]

boll0cks!

My opinion , i don't have a crack at you and that's deliberate

 

[KingV23]

Teams Discussion: Proposes that Wicks might be dropped due to a 'quiet game' for Hamling...

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Round 15 Team Tips

Young Cat, Giants gun out with peculiar injuries as two debutants revealed — AFL Team Tips

www.foxsports.com.au

What they got right & wrong: The positives & negatives from Round 14

Each game summarised.

www.sen.com.au

We would be a very tall forward line if that came to fruition. Our forward line will go from playing the Giants to becoming the giants.

 

[the hypnotoad]

My opinion , i don't have a crack at you and that's deliberate

hahaha, more boll0cks ... you have a crack at everyone's opinion if it doesn't align with yours

 

[bedford]

hahaha, more boll0cks ... you have a crack at everyone's opinion if it doesn't align with yours

I generally don't reply to you as i have no interest , it that fair and honest ! nothing to do with any other poster

 

[caesar88]

Ive got Code , still don't have to like it . Absolute traitor

Really don't understand this logic.

He has a right to earn income. He's doing a job for an employer. Swans aren't his employers anymore. It's no different to Jude being in the commentary box saying whatever our opponent needs to do to try and win the game.

It's only damaging if you believe opposition coaches are acquiring their intel and strategy on the Swans from... an online news site. I know you know enough about the sport to know that that just isn't the case.