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[Adnico26Parker]

Be perfect and avoid the ladder predictor: Errol's plan for the run home​

Be perfect and avoid the ladder predictor: Errol's plan for the run home

Errol Gulden looks ahead to Sydney's clash against St Kilda and keeps the finals dream alive

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[SM]

I think it is only a negative connotation if you think of the role as a negative one. Which a lot of people do. Tagging is a genuine craft that some can do and others can not. I think the only way the perception of tagging is ever going to change and become appreciated for what it is is for those who do it to wear the title of 'taggers' proudly.

Tagging in and of itself is by definition negative as it is negating another player's role. Jordon is much more than a negator.

 

[caesar88]

Tagging in and of itself is by definition negative as it is negating another player's role. Jordon is much more than a negator.

By negative I meant a bad thing. Not negative as in negating.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

By negative I meant a bad thing. Not negative as in negating.

I still think when people hear "tagger" they think the Hayden Ballantyne type .... scragging, pinching, the occasional gut punch when nobody is looking.

JJ is a far more gentlemanly tagger.

 

[caesar88]

I still think when people hear "tagger" they think the Hayden Ballantyne type .... scragging, pinching, the occasional gut punch when nobody is looking.

JJ is a far more gentlemanly tagger.

I don't know that they think that at all. I've heard Cameron Ling, Jared Crouch, Ryan Crowley etc. and then the Windhager, Drew, Bedford types all mentioned in discussions on taggers more than players who are just antagonistic.

I just don't think it is a bad thing or an insult to say that Jordon's a tagger. It is great that he can do other things but his primary role in the team is to tag. He did not get 8 coaches votes on the weekend for his 9 disposals playing as a full-time on-baller. He got it for how he nullified Serong. And that's good!

 

[SM]

By negative I meant a bad thing. Not negative as in negating.

I understand. I think the reason people have a negative opinion of it is because it's so single-minded and negating of another player. You aren't playing footy, you're stopping someone else from playing footy. Which is why I made the distinction with someone like Jordon vs someone like Baker or Crowley.

 

[SM]

I don't know that they think that at all. I've heard Cameron Ling, Jared Crouch, Ryan Crowley etc. and then the Windhager, Drew, Bedford types all mentioned in discussions on taggers more than players who are just antagonistic.

I just don't think it is a bad thing or an insult to say that Jordon's a tagger. It is great that he can do other things but his primary role in the team is to tag. He did not get 8 coaches votes on the weekend for his 9 disposals playing as a full-time on-baller. He got it for how he nullified Serong. And that's good!

He also kicked two goals which I reckon went some way to getting in the votes. He had a big impact on the game and was damaging both ways.

I tend to agree with Cornes though that Serong is one of the easier mids in the comp to tag because he has no other weapons in his arsenal. He can't go forward to kick goals and can't drop back to the half back flank.

 

[caesar88]

I understand. I think the reason people have a negative opinion of it is because it's so single-minded and negating of another player. You aren't playing footy, you're stopping someone else from playing footy. Which is why I made the distinction with someone like Jordon vs someone like Baker or Crowley.

I agree that people have a negative opinion of it in the way you describe, and I also think that a lot of the time their view of it isn't inaccurate. For example if Jordon wasn't tagging Serong on the weekend I think he'd have managed more than 9 disposals for the game. So there is a sacrificial aspect to it.

But I still think there's nothing wrong with that. Defending is a craft and just because someone is doing it in the midfield rather than in defence, like a key defender or small lockdown defender, I don't think that should mean it is held in any lower a regard.

 

[Bloods86]

I agree that people have a negative opinion of it in the way you describe, and I also think that a lot of the time their view of it isn't inaccurate. For example if Jordon wasn't tagging Serong on the weekend I think he'd have managed more than 9 disposals for the game. So there is a sacrificial aspect to it.

But I still think there's nothing wrong with that. Defending is a craft and just because someone is doing it in the midfield rather than in defence, like a key defender or small lockdown defender, I don't think that should mean it is held in any lower a regard.

Up to a quarter of a footy team is there mostly to negate their opponent(s). It's part of footy that is under-appreciated, often in favour of those with high disposal counts and that get onto highlight reels.

 

[bedford]

Half of it i can't read lol

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Millsy on Sportsday with Gerard and Kane

 

[RilesMacca]

Bluey McKenna talking coaching on SEN.
Experienced and balanced view..
Every coach needs 3 to 4 years to give them a go.
Importance of good assistants
Injuries impact
Leadership from the top down...president and ceo communicating. ( hope we get a good one )
Game plans for the list...and the list for the game plan.

Might be interpreting a bit of what he said

This point stands out to me especially with how we’ve gone this year.

Our list is tailored to attacking offensive quick outside turnover footy, never really shown much of a contested tendency. I feel this year though we’ve slowly been turning the screws into a better ground level and contested team.

There’s been plenty of inconsistency (personnel issues a reason too), but a handful of our wins this season has been done off our pressure around the ball and our contested game. Even in losses against the dogs and crows we’ve won the clearances. I made a post before dees game saying we were the #1 ground ball side for the 5 games prior as well.

Year might be over but I feel we’ve shown some positives, but ultimately it might need time with a more contested and defence focus under Coxy.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

This point stands out to me especially with how we’ve gone this year.

Our list is tailored to attacking offensive quick outside turnover footy, never really shown much of a contested tendency. I feel this year though we’ve slowly been turning the screws into a better ground level and contested team.

There’s been plenty of inconsistency (personnel issues a reason too), but a handful of our wins this season has been done off our pressure around the ball and our contested game. Even in losses against the dogs and crows we’ve won the clearances. I made a post before dees game saying we were the #1 ground ball side for the 5 games prior as well.

Year might be over but I feel we’ve shown some positives, but ultimately it might need time with a more contested and defence focus under Coxy.

And or a different group of players at present our list is weighted to much to players on the outside.

 

[rustycrate]

I don't know that they think that at all. I've heard Cameron Ling, Jared Crouch, Ryan Crowley etc. and then the Windhager, Drew, Bedford types all mentioned in discussions on taggers more than players who are just antagonistic.

I just don't think it is a bad thing or an insult to say that Jordon's a tagger. It is great that he can do other things but his primary role in the team is to tag. He did not get 8 coaches votes on the weekend for his 9 disposals playing as a full-time on-baller. He got it for how he nullified Serong. And that's good!

To me it is a compliment to any player that a team deems it necessary to send a specific player to negate their brilliance.
If I was that good I would indeed think it a compliment. More, I think it would force me to become a better player. To succeed under more duress.

To JJ's credit he not only blunts some of the best players, he also can play his game at the same time, getting lots of possessions, goals, tackles, 1%centers.

This type of "tagger" is not negative but positive for the game.

JJ is better for it, the opposing star has to improve their game. How does any player get better. By playing against better opposition. Win Win.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

To me it is a compliment to any player that a team deems it necessary to send a specific player to negate their brilliance.
If I was that good I would indeed think it a compliment. More, I think it would force me to become a better player. To succeed under more duress.

To JJ's credit he not only blunts some of the best players, he also can play his game at the same time, getting lots of possessions, goals, tackles, 1%centers.

This type of "tagger" is not negative but positive for the game.

JJ is better for it, the opposing star has to improve their game. How does any player get better. By playing against better opposition. Win Win.

JJ is the epitome of a Swans trade glad he is finally getting the pundits in the media he deserves.

Another challenge as i reckon he will go to Steele this week.

We need more trades like him

 

[The King!]

JJ is the epitome of a Swans trade glad he is finally getting the pundits in the media he deserves.

Another challenge as i reckon he will go to Steele this week.

We need more trades like him

Free agent

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Free agent

Targeting of players like him its something we havent nearly done enough of the last decade

 

[The King!]

Targeting of players like him its something we havent nearly done enough of the last decade

We don’t always know what they tried to do I guess.

 

[Kiama Chris]

JJ is the epitome of a Swans trade glad he is finally getting the pundits in the media he deserves.

Another challenge as i reckon he will go to Steele this week.

We need more trades like him

Steele or Sinclair?

 

[bedford]

Steele or Sinclair?

Sinclair

 

[giantsully]

I still think when people hear "tagger" they think the Hayden Ballantyne type .... scragging, pinching, the occasional gut punch when nobody is looking.

JJ is a far more gentlemanly tagger.

I think you're thinking of Ryan Crowley - Ballantyne did all the things you mention but not for tagging purposes, just because that was his idea of a good time.

 

[ashep]

I think it's semantics, but I've always used the term "run with" player to describe someone like JJ.

His primary assignment is to stick to an opponent but he also wins his own ball and influences our attack as opposed to being purely focussed on restricting the other player to the detriment of his own possessions.

 

[bedford]

I think it's semantics, but I've always used the term "run with" player to describe someone like JJ.

His primary assignment is to stick to an opponent but he also wins his own ball and influences our attack as opposed to being purely focussed on restricting the other player to the detriment of his own possessions.

Good call , he's more in the Ling and Kirk mould as they do cause some damage themselves
Crowley and Baker were genuine rats

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Cox will be on SEN Breakfast tomorrow morning

 

[Ticky009]

Always nice to read after a win

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R18 - Sydney v St Kilda - Live! From The Loungeroom - The Mongrel Punt

It was a belter at Marvel as the Saints threw everything at the Swans, and Sydney rose to the occasion. Matt Oman has the details

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Swans snatch points to keep finals hopes alive, Power survive Eagles scare

The Sydney Swans trail most of the day against St Kilda before grabbing a season-saving win at Docklands, as Port Adelaide overcomes the Eagles in Adelaide.

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