Ten Things I Hate About You

[hotpie]

What are the most annoying attributes of our players? What pssses you off?


1. Guy Richards injury history - just get out there son!!!
2. O'Brees short kicking - he can kick the ball long when he wants to.
3. Rhyce's poor footskills - undoing the benefit we get from his pace and ballgetting ability.
4. Tarrants inability to kick with the right foot. Left foot barely any better.
5. Walker's inability to read the play quickly enough.
6. Lonie's softness at the ball and tendency to lose his opponent when it matters.
7. Buckleys age - why cant he stay 25 years old forever?
8. Fraser's inability to put on weight and keep it on
9. Cam Clokes immobility - needs to lose weight.
10. Didak's inconsistency and tendency to lose the plot slightly at times.

Good news is that this list is not nearly as bad as the list I would have written 12 months ago or 2 years ago.

Thoughts?

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

I could list 500.

 

[hotpie]

I could list 500.

Richie Cole has gone now.

 

[jefffff34]

1. Inconsistency of players such as Leon Davis.
2. Lonie not having cemented a position in the 22 after five seasons.
3. O'Bree kicking on his left, when he can straighten up and use his right.
4. Tarrant's set shots
5. Lockyer's skills going up ******** creek last year
6. Walker not learning to use his frame to advantage
7. Malthouse never throwing Clement up forward in a crisis situation, he has kicked bags of five before.
8. Injuries
9. No trades
10. Injuries

 

[jimmy_c8]

Julian Rowes foot skills

 

[Lensen]

I'm trying to be more optimistic here, this ain't helping!

 

[hotpie]

I'm trying to be more optimistic here, this ain't helping!

Theres two sides to every story. You can only be so optimistic, but there are also some realities to face.

 

[DidaksLeftFoot]

1. Picking up Ricky Olarenshaw
2. Teasing that we were going to recruit that squid Camporeale
3. Injuries to key players
4. Nearly being reduced to tears when I see Tarrant having his rectum penetrated by the opposition full-back and not getting a free-kick
5. Losing Grand Finals
6. Short and indirect football
7. Playing people out of position
8. Leaving Vic Park
9. Getting murdered at the tribunal despite lack of evidence and/or opinion of opposition player (see J. Cloke, PF 2002 and C. Tarrant vs Freo 2005)
10. Andrew Williams... oh that's right, we got rid of him

 

[Lensen]

Theres two sides to every story. You can only be so optimistic, but there are also some realities to face.

Yeah, but if I delve back into what I hate about Collingwood, I'll become pessimistic again - and I'm trying to avoid that!

 

[magpies42]

1. The clubs inability to convert finals into premierships.
2. Our shonky delivery into the forward line.
3. Our lack of pace.
4. Our lack of skill around the ball.
5. Tarrant not living up to his potential.
6. Giving away draft picks for ********, or giving away good players for ******** draft picks.
7. Using our top picks to draft duds.
8. Eddie not comenatating the footy.
9. Carlton being carlton scum
10. essendon being essendon dirt

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Shane O'Bree's Disposal
Chris Tarrant's Goalkicking
Collingwood's Drafting
Josh Fraser's Under-Performing
Mick Malthouse's Signing
Finals History
Buckey's Old
Walker's still at Lexus Centre

 

[guess_who]

Wait untill a couple of rounds into next season and I'll fill the page but here are my main ones.

Tarrants goal Kicking
Shaw's disposal
Grand Final performances
The way we clear the ball from the 50

Many of my sources of frustration have left the club, Woey and Cole my god It will be good for my blood presure that they won't be playing when I watch the pies next year.

 

[Cassius_Clay]

Egan's arrogance
Egan's sh1tting himself every time a player goes near him with the ball
Egan not getting the contested ball
Crap kicking into our forward 50
Always losing bloody GFs
Inability to make finals consistently
Our drafting. For Example drafting Egan.
Our drafting of WCE hacks. E.G. Morrison, Williams etc.
Injuries
Umpires

 

[Oh Furious One]

1) The delisting of Shane Woewodin. The whole scenario was an absolute mess and cut short the career of a player who still had plenty to give at the elite level.

2) The possibility of Guy Richards’s abundance of potential never being realized.

3) Chris Tarrant's desire to work more on his biceps rather then his goal kicking.

4) The inability to attract big name players in the trading and draft periods despite our status as the biggest club in the country.

5) The countless injuries that have plagued our list for the past two years.

6) Mick Malthouse's obsession with former love child’s from the West Coast Eagles. Williams contributed in 2003. Morrison had his moments in 2005 but Scott Cummings? C'mon now, Micky 'O.

7) Rhyce Shaw's disposal under pressure. He has valuable leg speed and ball winning ability but do we REALLY want him to even touch the pill?

8) Mick Malthouse's lack of usage for Dane Swan over the previous years. He is a gem within the rough, mark my words. 2005 was only the start.

9) Ryan Lonie going backwards instead of forwards. Unaccountable at times, four years ago I said he was going to be a superstar of the game. Has the credentials but fails to deliver.

10) Most bias Collingwood supporters in general.

 

[JLC]

I have tried to make mine current

1. Obree feeling the need to play on when around goals and putting teammates under pressure.

2. Obrees long looping handballs when a kick would suffice.

3. Tex Walker looking lost on the ground and having no presence.

4. Julian Rowe not thinking when he has the ball in his hands and continually turning the ball over.

5. Leon Davis still failing to do the basics right

6. Dave Fanning failing to put his body on the line when required.

Thats probably all i have........with Woewoful gone along with Lokan and Williams i am actually quite pleased.

jlc

 

[Lensen]

1) The delisting of Shane Woewodin. The whole scenario was an absolute mess and cut short the career of a player who still had plenty to give at the elite level.

No no no no no! Rupert Betheras was cutting short the career of a player who still had a bit to give at the top level. Heath Scotland was the cutting short the Collingwood career of someone to had plenty to give at the top level. Woewodin was the cutting short of a player who a) was a squib anyway, and b) had been passed by the evolution of the game.

 

[dids4]

Egan's arrogance
Egan's sh1tting himself every time a player goes near him with the ball
Egan not getting the contested ball
Crap kicking into our forward 50
Always losing bloody GFs
Inability to make finals consistently
Our drafting. For Example drafting Egan.
Our drafting of WCE hacks. E.G. Morrison, Williams etc.
Injuries
Umpires

you are possibly the biggest d|ckface on this site.

 

[prO]

* Our ********ty effort in the second GF with the Lions
* The nature in which we have been plagued with injuries for 2 seasons
* Rhyce Shaw's disposal under pressure.. however I have a feeling he will come good
* Chris Tarrants ********ty goal kicking... hopefully hes back into all australian form
* Not having a ruckman that dominates
* Didak not keeping his cool when it counts
* Malthouse playing hacks when hes had the option to play players oozing with talent


Overall theres plenty to look forward to...

 

[jefffff34]

you are possibly the biggest d|ckface on this site.

Brilliantly summed up.

I love it how BP hates Egan on the basis of a press conference in which he said that he would like to "give one" to Deledio.

Of course what BP doesn't know is that Deledio and Egan are like best mates from the Murray Bushrangers (I interviewed Deledio during the year, his words - along with Newton from Melbourne) and that he was just kidding.

 

[Cassius_Clay]

Brilliantly summed up.

I love it how BP hates Egan on the basis of a press conference in which he said that he would like to "give one" to Deledio.

Of course what BP doesn't know is that Deledio and Egan are like best mates from the Murray Bushrangers (I interviewed Deledio during the year, his words - along with Newton from Melbourne) and that he was just kidding.

It was more the finger issue that concerned me. He is in the Lovett class when it comes to being arrogant except Lovett has actually done something in his first year where as Egan has achieved next to nothing.

 

[pieman1]

What are the most annoying attributes of our players? What pssses you off?


1. Guy Richards injury history - just get out there son!!!
2. O'Brees short kicking - he can kick the ball long when he wants to.
3. Rhyce's poor footskills - undoing the benefit we get from his pace and ballgetting ability.
4. Tarrants inability to kick with the right foot. Left foot barely any better.
5. Walker's inability to read the play quickly enough.
6. Lonie's softness at the ball and tendency to lose his opponent when it matters.
7. Buckleys age - why cant he stay 25 years old forever?
8. Fraser's inability to put on weight and keep it on
9. Cam Clokes immobility - needs to lose weight.
10. Didak's inconsistency and tendency to lose the plot slightly at times.

Good news is that this list is not nearly as bad as the list I would have written 12 months ago or 2 years ago.

Thoughts?

Rhyce's poor foot skills? What annoys me is that people like yourself continue to perpetuate this myth. You are descirbing the Rhyce Shaw from three years ago. He now gets the ball a lot more and has cut right down on his mistakes. I had this discussion with a Bulldogs supporter who was under the same misapprehension, the facts are that Rhyce and Ben Johnson for that matter are only slightly worse than Lindsee Gilbee kicking the ball and he's considered a surgeon with the ball in his hands. Don't just take my word for it all the statistics are available at Prowess stats and stats don't lie.

 

[Lensen]

Rhyce's poor foot skills? What annoys me is that people like yourself continue to perpetuate this myth. You are descirbing the Rhyce Shaw from three years ago. He now gets the ball a lot more and has cut right down on his mistakes. I had this discussion with a Bulldogs supporter who was under the same misapprehension, the facts are that Rhyce and Ben Johnson for that matter are only slightly worse than Lindsee Gilbee kicking the ball and he's considered a surgeon with the ball in his hands. Don't just take my word for it all the statistics are available at Prowess stats and stats don't lie.

Stats do lie. A kick is regarded as effective when kicked long to a contest, whether it's kicked to our player's advantage or the defender's advantage. Whilst on TV it may look similar, it's often the difference between the forward taking the mark and being spoiled, and therefore is the difference between good and poor footskills.

I do agree with you that Rhyce has improved his footskills but I'd still describe them, based on last year, as average at best. Not horrible as most on here seem to think - but certainly nowhere near Lindsay Gilbee.

 

[pieman1]

The stat you need to take note of is completion % per kick. Both Rhyce and Johnson have both improved over the years to the point where they are both now above average, infact Johnson links up with teammates more than Buckley does. I agree that Gilbee has superior skills over distance but the point I was making is that the pair of them weren't far behind Gilbee in this regard. Interestingly both our boys completion percentages (finding a teammate with the foot) were better than James Hird who also had a high percentage of clangers, and I don't see many people ripping his kicking skills. Sometimes peoples perceptions are contrary to reality and I hope the folks who continue to think Rhyce's skills aren't up to scratch acknowledge the hard work and improvements he has made (Along with Ben Johnson) to his game.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Rhyce's poor foot skills? What annoys me is that people like yourself continue to perpetuate this myth. You are descirbing the Rhyce Shaw from three years ago. He now gets the ball a lot more and has cut right down on his mistakes. I had this discussion with a Bulldogs supporter who was under the same misapprehension, the facts are that Rhyce and Ben Johnson for that matter are only slightly worse than Lindsee Gilbee kicking the ball and he's considered a surgeon with the ball in his hands. Don't just take my word for it all the statistics are available at Prowess stats and stats don't lie.

Couldn't say it better myself.

Brilliant Pies - I'll change my avatar just for you!

 

[Lensen]

The stat you need to take note of is completion % per kick. Both Rhyce and Johnson have both improved over the years to the point where they are both now above average, infact Johnson links up with teammates more than Buckley does. I agree that Gilbee has superior skills over distance but the point I was making is that the pair of them weren't far behind Gilbee in this regard. Interestingly both our boys completion percentages (finding a teammate with the foot) were better than James Hird who also had a high percentage of clangers, and I don't see many people ripping his kicking skills. Sometimes peoples perceptions are contrary to reality and I hope the folks who continue to think Rhyce's skills aren't up to scratch acknowledge the hard work and improvements he has made (Along with Ben Johnson) to his game.

I rip Hird's skills as a majority of floaters that look smart.

But no one listens.