Terry talks sh*t

[Bentleigh]

Anyone who follows Richmond loves the Kellaway boys, no question about that but lets face facts.

Games these days are often won of the half back flank by quick movement no AK strength. Contested football (especially towards backmen) is going out the window thanks to the fools running the show at the moment.

For too long Richmond has sat on the hands thinking that a Haffey like motivational speech will make the diffrence like it used too. Well it won't big decisions need to be made and Wallace and crew made them.

Yes it's sad to see AK go but the game is not played how it used to be and therefor you can't get away with just courage and determination alone.

And as far as Kingsley taking the spot of another, lets face it the young blokes just are not up to it atm. Just because we hope one of the kids will come good doesn't mean they will.

Kingsley is a proveing 50 goal a season kicker, at worse he will make one of the young kids earn there spot in the seniors.

Correct.

 

[tazhawk]

Terry Wallet talks sh*t.................................surely you jest.

 

[Bojangles17]

"1. You dropped A. Kelleway because of his age Terry. You felt the game had passed him. Yet AK was one of our best in 2006 and I felt he was the reason we won alot of games - especially against Adelaide.

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I thought about this to as I was a massive fan of AK however the circumstances are contrasting. AK played a game out of step with the running half back that TW is intent on introducing into the Tiger gameplan. He had his time and he did it well....too soon perhaps..well, .he wasn't picked up yesterday, that was a fairly strong signal that the timing was right....

Good luck to KK, if he does nothing else but raise the bar for JR and Cleve then he has served some purpose ...The prference has always been for a third tall, there's every chance that KK could perform that role better than staff did in recent seasons

 

[cairo tiger]

when are you going to let this go? AK is not up to the task of top level AFL footy anymore.

 

[LVAK]

Terry Wallet talks sh*t.................................surely you jest.

Again, Hawks supporters can't talk as they wanted Wallace for the top job.

Having been in the media, I think Terry is aware that you must play the media or they will play you.
It's unfortunate that this has to be but we live in a town where the front page of the biggest selling newspaper is completely taken up by the marriage break downs of Phil Anerson and Brendan Fevola Toeing the party line is paramount

Once again for Hawks supporters.... Jeff Kennett talking about blah blah , what's he saying ? blah blah......

 

[wart101]

AK was no dud. Serviceable, courageous, team-oriented...yes all of those things.
But was his delisting the right thing?
Well, 15 other clubs had the opportunity to recruit him in TWO separate drafts.
The fact he is no longer on any AFL list - not just Richmond's...but those of Collingwood, Western Bulldogs, West Coast, Fremantle, Brisbane. Hawthorn etc. etc. - should speak volumes.
Those who are up to it, or show potential, or have an upside are generally recycled after being cut - Kellaway was not.
Simply a case of no upside.

WHAT AK WAS A DUD!!!!!!! you can't be serious he was one of the best and safety grabs in the league. Do you seriously barrack for the tigers mate? Andrew Kellaway helped us win many games, 2000 all-australian a b&f winner and won of the best contested markers in the league. Does that classify him as a dud.

LMAO at you, you stupid, stupid little boy.

Anyone who follows Richmond loves the Kellaway boys, no question about that but lets face facts.

Games these days are often won of the half back flank by quick movement not AK's strength. Contested football (especially towards backmen) is going out the window thanks to the fools running the show at the moment AK's strength.

For too long Richmond has sat on the hands thinking that a Haffey like motivational speech will make the diffrence like it used too. Well it won't big decisions need to be made and Wallace and crew made them.

Yes it's sad to see AK go but the game is not played how it used to be and therefor you can't get away with just courage and determination alone.

And as far as Kingsley taking the spot of another, lets face it the young blokes just are not up to it atm. Just because we hope one of the kids will come good doesn't mean they will.

Kingsley is a proveing 50 goal a season kicker, at worse he will make one of the young kids earn there spot in the seniors.

AK = RFC hero always but it's time to move on.i

RFC = fast running highly skilled players for the future.

AK unfortunatly does not = fast running highly skilled players for the future.

AK = RFC hero always but it's time to move on.

 

[pantsdown]

The thing about Wallace is that he does seem a bit hypocritcal (IMHO) if he was going to delist Andy Kellaway that is fine, but basically he should have delisted Darren Gaspar as well going on that basis cause Gaspar's been pretty ordinary and slow the last couple of years, I know the Tigers lack quality KPP defenders, that's why they got Polak, but yeah though decisions like that and getting a soft player who goes missing under pressure in Kent Kingsley, show to me that Wallace is probably under some pressure from the board to get results short term next year, but really it's fools gold as Kingsley will play more rubbish games then good ones, and Polak, well who knows where he's at ???

I would be more concerned with your own backyard than weighing into this debate, lets face you have a board under seige who want to flick the coach, you have past players wanting to grab the reins back from Smorgan and co, so perhaps you should stick to your neck of the woods and give us some reasons why this once powerful (Carlton) are staring down the barrell.

Please where do you people get the perception that Terry is under pressure to perfom next year from a united board (something that is alluding your club at this moment), RFC are not going for any short term fixes as you so put it, orperhaps you can explain to all and sundry how we are going for short term fixes, im sure it would make for interesting reading.

 

[pantsdown]

Everyone has a use by date wheter it is work or sport, he should be proud of what he achieved as a player (sure he is), its time for the supporters to let this go, just as Chubba has, enjoy your trip o/s mate.

 

[pantsdown]

Of course he talks sh it, it's what he does best. Biggest pain in the backside in football.

I find it interesting that Hawk supporters love to deride Wallace at every opportunity i wonder why?

I think we all know the answer to that.

 

[PLSC]

cant wait to hear wallace say after our 2nd 100-point defeat next year

"we didnt have andrew kellaway"

THATS BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE LIST ANYMORE ****************

ak wasnt dropped for his kicking, it was done the time he did his hamstring and the subsequent loss to stkilda killing our finals chances

i will never forget the adelaide game where ak saved our asses on many occasions and also the mark against the scum in the wet which was pure heart

good luck andy

 

[tigerT]

cant wait to hear wallace say after our 2nd 100-point defeat next year

"we didnt have andrew kellaway"

THATS BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE LIST ANYMORE ****************

ak wasnt dropped for his kicking, it was done the time he did his hamstring and the subsequent loss to stkilda killing our finals chances

i will never forget the adelaide game where ak saved our asses on many occasions and also the mark against the scum in the wet which was pure heart

good luck andy

yeah thats right he'll say that..

 

[itsintheblood]

"Whilst you are still able to impact games, age doesn't matter," he said of the decision to allocate the Tigers' last place on the list to a 28-year-old.

"Our other key forwards (besides Richardson) are still developing players who are not at the stage where they are ready to jump in now and we are always of the belief that you play for now as well as the future."

"At the start of the trade period we had 19 players aged 22 or under and then we got another 22-year-old in Graham Polak (from Fremantle) plus five (young) selections in the (national) draft so we thought adding another experienced player was the right way to go in this draft."

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1. You dropped A. Kelleway because of his age Terry. You felt the game had passed him. Yet AK was one of our best in 2006 and I felt he was the reason we won alot of games - especially against Adelaide.

2. You want experience among youth? Look no further than AK. Courage epitomised! Doesnt drop his head like a certain GASPER does and just never stopped working in losses such as the Western Bulldogs thrashing and against Melbourne, just to name two.

Picking up Kingsley isnt a mistake. I think it could work. But give me Andy Kelleway any day. Your a f00l sometimes Wallace, you really are.

Kellaway was one of our best in 06? I don't think so. Had an average year and missed 6 weeks because of his surfing incident.

Right move IMO.

 

[itsintheblood]

AK a dud?

That is going a bit too far......

Re-read Diceman's post kiddos

AK was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than DK but fairdinkum, how DK played AFL football is beyond me. AK was marginally better IMO.

 

[Croat tiger]

Hey TB,i hope you are feeling better mate

Thanks TP.

 

[wart101]

cant wait to hear wallace say after our 2nd 100-point defeat next year

"we didnt have andrew kellaway"

THATS BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE LIST ANYMORE ****************

ak wasnt dropped for his kicking, it was done the time he did his hamstring and the subsequent loss to stkilda killing our finals chances

i will never forget the adelaide game where ak saved our asses on many occasions and also the mark against the scum in the wet which was pure heart

good luck andy

Pfft, he may have marked our way out of trouble but we have players that can do that and more now.

AK = No more.

 

[The Dice Man]

cant wait to hear wallace say after our 2nd 100-point defeat next year

"we didnt have andrew kellaway"

THATS BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE LIST ANYMORE ****************

ak wasnt dropped for his kicking, it was done the time he did his hamstring and the subsequent loss to stkilda killing our finals chances

i will never forget the adelaide game where ak saved our asses on many occasions and also the mark against the scum in the wet which was pure heart

good luck andy

Andrew Kellaway, as a great a servant and Tiger as he was, simply isnt a part of the future Tiger make-up, Gaspar isnt really either but it was one of them to go and choosing Gaspar is the correct decision.

I think the coaching/list management team are making good tough decisions.

Stuff sentamentality, it's one of the things that's held us back for years.

 

[deliberate!!]

We ALL talk sh*t.................case closed............

 

[PLSC]

when we got thrashed it was because gaspar and kellaway werent playing, fair enough

im just gonna keep a close eye on how it pans out

 

[wart101]

when we got thrashed it was because gaspar and kellaway werent playing, fair enough

im just gonna keep a close eye on how it pans out

LOL PLSC, it wasn't because of gasper and AK, if anything all they would have done is minamised the damage.

 

[celtic_pride]

Terry has explained himself a million times on this issue CP. Being a non-Tiger fan I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you probably didn't hear it or weren't interested.
Gaspar can play on the opposition's best defender and nullify that player. Kellaway couldn't. AK played on the 3rd best forward every time. Kellaway's type is expendable in that we can bring in three or four other types to fill his role. Nobody can fill Gaspar's role next year.
To offload Gaspar would mean that Thursfield, coming back from a knee injury, would be forced to play on fevola, Lloyd, hall etc. Just madness throwing the kid in the deep end like that. Zac Dawson anyone?
Kellaway's role was limited in that Thursfield will now fill his role in playing on the 3rd best forward (after Gas takes on the FF and Polak takes on the CHF). Better for the kid's development when he knows that by running out onto the field, he has a 50/50 chance of breaking even with his opponent. A kid like Dawson on the other hand, knows he's beaten before he starts.
And just on Gaspar...nobody's saying he's a gun player or anything, but he does the job more often than not. When's the last time Gaspar had his pants pulled down? Not often. True, he doesn't provide any run, is unskilled and is a terrible decision maker, but if his job is to stop the No 1 forward from the opposition, then he is as effective as anyone in the team.

Yeah thanks for that, to be fair though I haven't paid my attention to footy lately, I have a new job which is pretty much draining and haven't got that much time on the net lately, but yeah points are noted I suppose and yeah you guys (Richmond fans and members) see the Tigers a lot more then me, but to be fair, my cousin who watches all the Richmond games either live or on reply, tells me Gaspar isn't that good anymore.

Still though I maintain getting someone like Kent Kingsley is a mistake, but yeah Wallace and Kingsley could prove me wrong.
It's interesting though, I'm pleased for instance now Carlton drafted Cam Cloke, if he's shoulder is right, he is still young and be of great benefit to the Carlton structure, we need bigger build bodies in the team.
And on Wallace's logic, I guess Kingsley can have a role with the Tigers.

 

[tugga]

Yeah thanks for that, to be fair though I haven't paid my attention to footy lately, I have a new job which is pretty much draining and haven't got that much time on the net lately, but yeah points are noted I suppose and yeah you guys (Richmond fans and members) see the Tigers a lot more then me, but to be fair, my cousin who watches all the Richmond games either live or on reply, tells me Gaspar isn't that good anymore.

Still though I maintain getting someone like Kent Kingsley is a mistake, but yeah Wallace and Kingsley could prove me wrong.
It's interesting though, I'm pleased for instance now Carlton drafted Cam Cloke, if he's shoulder is right, he is still young and be of great benefit to the Carlton structure, we need bigger build bodies in the team.
And on Wallace's logic, I guess Kingsley can have a role with the Tigers.

Mate, as long as there's a role for a player to perform, whether he's the first ranked or 38th player on the list then it's all well and good by me.
Kingsley comes to Punt Rd with a role to play. Cam Cloke goes to Princes Park with a role to play. As long as they are not drafted for the sake of putting names on a list (Frawley had a long list of those), then all is good.
They both come cheap and they both have a point to prove. It's not like either of them are completely talentless.
I hate using clichés, but the proof will be in the pudding.

 

[Tigerbob]

I cant beleive some people can seriously call Andrew Kellaway a DUD!

A "put Richmond First" mentality, bravery personified, one of the safest pair of hands, does all types of jobs with no fuss, risked his body for the cause, I cant speak highly enough of him, in fact the season before last I had him as our most important player!

Shoo off those who can call themselves Richmond fans and call AK a dud.

The reason he was delisted is because he is not a KPP and he is too slow to play on a flank in our system. His time was up unfortunetely, but he will always be remembered as a True Tiger.

As for Kingsley he will be a great addition to our team, he will take the third or fourth best defender and he will cause matchup hell for the opposition.

Also the idea of "The Kellaway Trophy" for the Bravest and Best Clubman Tiger should be made for the Best and Fairest Night.

 

[PLSC]

LOL PLSC, it wasn't because of gasper and AK, if anything all they would have done is minamised the damage.

thats not what i said mate, if you payed attention its what terry drummed into the media after the sydney and stkilda games

its easier to blame a young kid like mcguane playing on hall then to blame coaches pets like tivendale with 5 possies next to their name

 

[The Dice Man]

I cant beleive some people can seriously call Andrew Kellaway a DUD!

A "put Richmond First" mentality, bravery personified, one of the safest pair of hands, does all types of jobs with no fuss, risked his body for the cause, I cant speak highly enough of him, in fact the season before last I had him as our most important player!

Shoo off those who can call themselves Richmond fans and call AK a dud.

The reason he was delisted is because he is not a KPP and he is too slow to play on a flank in our system. His time was up unfortunetely, but he will always be remembered as a True Tiger.

As for Kingsley he will be a great addition to our team, he will take the third or fourth best defender and he will cause matchup hell for the opposition.

Also the idea of "The Kellaway Trophy" for the Bravest and Best Clubman Tiger should be made for the Best and Fairest Night.

Sentiment means losing in today's AFL.

Great we lost by 15 goals, but hey I won the Kellaway medal.

 

[Crumden]

IAlso the idea of "The Kellaway Trophy" for the Bravest and Best Clubman Tiger should be made for the Best and Fairest Night.

Without knocking the Kellaways bob, if you go back a bit further in our history I think there'd be planty of others more deserving of that type of honour.