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"Whilst you are still able to impact games, age doesn't matter," he said of the decision to allocate the Tigers' last place on the list to a 28-year-old.

"Our other key forwards (besides Richardson) are still developing players who are not at the stage where they are ready to jump in now and we are always of the belief that you play for now as well as the future."

"At the start of the trade period we had 19 players aged 22 or under and then we got another 22-year-old in Graham Polak (from Fremantle) plus five (young) selections in the (national) draft so we thought adding another experienced player was the right way to go in this draft."

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1. You dropped A. Kelleway because of his age Terry. You felt the game had passed him. Yet AK was one of our best in 2006 and I felt he was the reason we won alot of games - especially against Adelaide.

2. You want experience among youth? Look no further than AK. Courage epitomised! Doesnt drop his head like a certain GASPER does and just never stopped working in losses such as the Western Bulldogs thrashing and against Melbourne, just to name two.

Picking up Kingsley isnt a mistake. I think it could work. But give me Andy Kelleway any day. Your a f00l sometimes Wallace, you really are.
 
The fact is that even if Andy was still on our list he probably would have retired either next year or 2008 and Kingsley could give us an extra 2-3 maybe more years beyond AK, if he can perform like we hope that is.
 
"Whilst you are still able to impact games, age doesn't matter," he said of the decision to allocate the Tigers' last place on the list to a 28-year-old.

"Our other key forwards (besides Richardson) are still developing players who are not at the stage where they are ready to jump in now and we are always of the belief that you play for now as well as the future."

"At the start of the trade period we had 19 players aged 22 or under and then we got another 22-year-old in Graham Polak (from Fremantle) plus five (young) selections in the (national) draft so we thought adding another experienced player was the right way to go in this draft."

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1. You dropped A. Kelleway because of his age Terry. You felt the game had passed him. Yet AK was one of our best in 2006 and I felt he was the reason we won alot of games - especially against Adelaide.

2. You want experience among youth? Look no further than AK. Courage epitomised! Doesnt drop his head like a certain GASPER does and just never stopped working in losses such as the Western Bulldogs thrashing and against Melbourne, just to name two.

Picking up Kingsley isnt a mistake. I think it could work. But give me Andy Kelleway any day. Your a f00l sometimes Wallace, you really are.

Ak was a dud, ok he had courage but he lacks skill in significant areas, TW didn't drop him due to age it was because of form and lets face it, when has AK ever done anything major for RFC besides his long service and being a dedicated player neither of which will win us a premiership,

TW didn't contradict himself because he has always maintained that he will probably go for expirience in this draft rather than youth.
 

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AK is a very dangerous hand, no matter which way you're coming from.

AK was a loyal, courageous player for the Richmond Football Club, and like thousands of players before and after him, then end seemed to come too soon. But it did, lets move along please and wish every player wearing a Tiger jumper in 2007 the very best of luck. :thumbsu:
 
"Whilst you are still able to impact games, age doesn't matter," he said of the decision to allocate the Tigers' last place on the list to a 28-year-old.

"Our other key forwards (besides Richardson) are still developing players who are not at the stage where they are ready to jump in now and we are always of the belief that you play for now as well as the future."

"At the start of the trade period we had 19 players aged 22 or under and then we got another 22-year-old in Graham Polak (from Fremantle) plus five (young) selections in the (national) draft so we thought adding another experienced player was the right way to go in this draft."

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1. You dropped A. Kelleway because of his age Terry. You felt the game had passed him. Yet AK was one of our best in 2006 and I felt he was the reason we won alot of games - especially against Adelaide.

2. You want experience among youth? Look no further than AK. Courage epitomised! Doesnt drop his head like a certain GASPER does and just never stopped working in losses such as the Western Bulldogs thrashing and against Melbourne, just to name two.

Picking up Kingsley isnt a mistake. I think it could work. But give me Andy Kelleway any day. Your a f00l sometimes Wallace, you really are.


WRONG!


u talk sh.it!

if you dont understand why we picked up kingsley and got rid of kellaway hack mark II, then you need some football education.

what terry says about this issue all makes sense to me. schulz cleve etc are not ready to take the game on. jay has proved over 2 the yrs now he is a 1 quarter player! cleve is still raw, we are waiting 4 these kids to mature as players. for far too long we have relied on richo. our forward line now is far more potent and KK will shove it up everyone and kick 50 goals next season!

AK was a slow dud , overrated piece of work like his brother!

all u tiger fans are pathetic supporters. KK is a tiger now, support him, or f off!
 
I liked AK as much as anyone and was shocked and more than a little saddened by the method of his departure.

Even so it is not possible to associate the arrival of KK with the departure of AK in any way (IMO). The two players could not be more different, they are chalk and cheese. It is insulting to AK that people should try to connect KK with his departure.

TW obviously believes we need a temporary fix in the forward line and AK was never going to provide that. You may disagree with the need for KK but to imply that we delisted AK to accommodate KK is just plain wrong and harmful to both players. The two events should not be connected.

PS. AK was not a dud.
 
two things- you need to kick goals to win games last time i watched footy (so kk will help us there-remember after the most over payed and rated footballer in hammil polaxed schultz last year, we struggled for another key forward), and two whilst kellaway while gutsy, we have similar and quicker players who can do his role now. it's unfortunate, but that's footy.
 

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AK was no dud. Serviceable, courageous, team-oriented...yes all of those things.
But was his delisting the right thing?
Well, 15 other clubs had the opportunity to recruit him in TWO separate drafts.
The fact he is no longer on any AFL list - not just Richmond's...but those of Collingwood, Western Bulldogs, West Coast, Fremantle, Brisbane. Hawthorn etc. etc. - should speak volumes.
Those who are up to it, or show potential, or have an upside are generally recycled after being cut - Kellaway was not.
Simply a case of no upside.
 
Ak was a dud, ok he had courage but he lacks skill in significant areas, TW didn't drop him due to age it was because of form and lets face it, when has AK ever done anything major for RFC besides his long service and being a dedicated player neither of which will win us a premiership,

TW didn't contradict himself because he has always maintained that he will probably go for expirience in this draft rather than youth.

WHAT AK WAS A DUD!!!!!!! you can't be serious he was one of the best and safety grabs in the league. Do you seriously barrack for the tigers mate? Andrew Kellaway helped us win many games, 2000 all-australian a b&f winner and won of the best contested markers in the league. Does that classify him as a dud.
 
The thing about Wallace is that he does seem a bit hypocritcal (IMHO) if he was going to delist Andy Kellaway that is fine, but basically he should have delisted Darren Gaspar as well going on that basis cause Gaspar's been pretty ordinary and slow the last couple of years, I know the Tigers lack quality KPP defenders, that's why they got Polak, but yeah though decisions like that and getting a soft player who goes missing under pressure in Kent Kingsley, show to me that Wallace is probably under some pressure from the board to get results short term next year, but really it's fools gold as Kingsley will play more rubbish games then good ones, and Polak, well who knows where he's at ???
 
"Whilst you are still able to impact games, age doesn't matter," he said of the decision to allocate the Tigers' last place on the list to a 28-year-old.

"Our other key forwards (besides Richardson) are still developing players who are not at the stage where they are ready to jump in now and we are always of the belief that you play for now as well as the future."

"At the start of the trade period we had 19 players aged 22 or under and then we got another 22-year-old in Graham Polak (from Fremantle) plus five (young) selections in the (national) draft so we thought adding another experienced player was the right way to go in this draft."

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1. You dropped A. Kelleway because of his age Terry. You felt the game had passed him. Yet AK was one of our best in 2006 and I felt he was the reason we won alot of games - especially against Adelaide.

2. You want experience among youth? Look no further than AK. Courage epitomised! Doesnt drop his head like a certain GASPER does and just never stopped working in losses such as the Western Bulldogs thrashing and against Melbourne, just to name two.

Picking up Kingsley isnt a mistake. I think it could work. But give me Andy Kelleway any day. Your a f00l sometimes Wallace, you really are.

I don't think you understand.

The game didn't passed AK by in terms of his age.

His style of football; inabilty to kick the ball, very slow was traits of yersterdays footballer. Not the skilled running machine he is trying to build.
 
The thing about Wallace is that he does seem a bit hypocritcal (IMHO) if he was going to delist Andy Kellaway that is fine, but basically he should have delisted Darren Gaspar as well going on that basis cause Gaspar's been pretty ordinary and slow the last couple of years, I know the Tigers lack quality KPP defenders, that's why they got Polak, but yeah though decisions like that and getting a soft player who goes missing under pressure in Kent Kingsley, show to me that Wallace is probably under some pressure from the board to get results short term next year, but really it's fools gold as Kingsley will play more rubbish games then good ones, and Polak, well who knows where he's at ???
Terry has explained himself a million times on this issue CP. Being a non-Tiger fan I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you probably didn't hear it or weren't interested.
Gaspar can play on the opposition's best defender and nullify that player. Kellaway couldn't. AK played on the 3rd best forward every time. Kellaway's type is expendable in that we can bring in three or four other types to fill his role. Nobody can fill Gaspar's role next year.
To offload Gaspar would mean that Thursfield, coming back from a knee injury, would be forced to play on fevola, Lloyd, hall etc. Just madness throwing the kid in the deep end like that. Zac Dawson anyone?
Kellaway's role was limited in that Thursfield will now fill his role in playing on the 3rd best forward (after Gas takes on the FF and Polak takes on the CHF). Better for the kid's development when he knows that by running out onto the field, he has a 50/50 chance of breaking even with his opponent. A kid like Dawson on the other hand, knows he's beaten before he starts.
And just on Gaspar...nobody's saying he's a gun player or anything, but he does the job more often than not. When's the last time Gaspar had his pants pulled down? Not often. True, he doesn't provide any run, is unskilled and is a terrible decision maker, but if his job is to stop the No 1 forward from the opposition, then he is as effective as anyone in the team.
 

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Terry has explained himself a million times on this issue CP. Being a non-Tiger fan I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you probably didn't hear it or weren't interested.
Gaspar can play on the opposition's best defender and nullify that player. Kellaway couldn't. AK played on the 3rd best forward every time. Kellaway's type is expendable in that we can bring in three or four other types to fill his role. Nobody can fill Gaspar's role next year.
To offload Gaspar would mean that Thursfield, coming back from a knee injury, would be forced to play on fevola, Lloyd, hall etc. Just madness throwing the kid in the deep end like that. Zac Dawson anyone?
Kellaway's role was limited in that Thursfield will now fill his role in playing on the 3rd best forward (after Gas takes on the FF and Polak takes on the CHF). Better for the kid's development when he knows that by running out onto the field, he has a 50/50 chance of breaking even with his opponent. A kid like Dawson on the other hand, knows he's beaten before he starts.
And just on Gaspar...nobody's saying he's a gun player or anything, but he does the job more often than not. When's the last time Gaspar had his pants pulled down? Not often. True, he doesn't provide any run, is unskilled and is a terrible decision maker, but if his job is to stop the No 1 forward from the opposition, then he is as effective as anyone in the team.

See people? It's all quite simple.
 
How can KK an AK be related in terms of drafting and delisting???

Andy was unfortunatly cut because i feel TW has his spot ear-marked for a running defender like JON or possibly P.Bowden or polo......

KK add structure and depth to our forward line aswell as guidence and competition for the young Forwards comeing through.

Is not a superstar but is a quality forward that has proven to be able kick goals when it counts..

a change of scenery does alot to a players confidence and he will be a useful contributor for the tiges over the next few years.
 
Anyone who follows Richmond loves the Kellaway boys, no question about that but lets face facts.

Games these days are often won of the half back flank by quick movement not AK's strength. Contested football (especially towards backmen) is going out the window thanks to the fools running the show at the moment AK's strength.

For too long Richmond has sat on the hands thinking that a Haffey like motivational speech will make the diffrence like it used too. Well it won't big decisions need to be made and Wallace and crew made them.

Yes it's sad to see AK go but the game is not played how it used to be and therefor you can't get away with just courage and determination alone.

And as far as Kingsley taking the spot of another, lets face it the young blokes just are not up to it atm. Just because we hope one of the kids will come good doesn't mean they will.

Kingsley is a proveing 50 goal a season kicker, at worse he will make one of the young kids earn there spot in the seniors.
 

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