Unsolved The Beaumont Children

[johnymac1]

I really want this sinkhole looked into but there just isn’t any credibility behind any of these siblings making the claims. I’m not saying it didn’t happen just they haven’t provided any evidence. No one can be 100% sure the children are in this sinkhole I don’t care what anyone says if you weren’t there at the time it’s all he said she said Just because Munro apparently told someone doesn’t mean anything as Munro has no credibility either just a scumbag.

Sinkhole. I dont think they will find anything there.

 

[Kurve]

It's not usual to promote petitions on this board but for certain circumstances in relation to unsolved crime. If anybody is interested, here's the link to the petition to dig up the sinkhole.

Sign the Petition

Missing Beaumont Children: SAPOL To Dig The Sink Hole at [REDACTED] Stansbury

www.change.org

 

[Kurve]

How does he know it's all FACT (in capitals!)? From his point of view it's hearsay, nothing more.

Couple of glaring contradictions to see there as well. Both these facts can't be true but if the second presented fact was true, why didn't they dig up the sinkhole then?

It is FACT that there was something in that sinkhole at Stansbury that Max McIntyre wanted to remain buried in the sinkhole for no-one to know about.
It is FACT that Max McIntyre gave myself and others permission to dig at the sinkhole site

 

[yodellinhank]

Couple of glaring contradictions to see there as well. Both these facts can't be true but if the second presented fact was true, why didn't they dig up the sinkhole then?

It is FACT that there was something in that sinkhole at Stansbury that Max McIntyre wanted to remain buried in the sinkhole for no-one to know about.
It is FACT that Max McIntyre gave myself and others permission to dig at the sinkhole site

They could both be true if what "was" buried in the sinkhole has already been removed.

 

[GreyCrow]

They could both be true if what "was" buried in the sinkhole has already been removed.

Then why the need for a petition to dig?

 

[yodellinhank]

Then why the need for a petition to dig?

You'll never know what's in there if you don't FACT. Could also be just another small effort in a long string of successful efforts I've made to get attention.

 

[GreyCrow]

You'll never know what's in there if you don't FACT. Could also be just another small effort in a long string of successful efforts I've made to get attention.

Fact

 

[bluegirlz]

I’m all for the Stansbury property to be dug. Castelloys dig was done based on less accusations & evidence than this Stansbury site. I think its something to have done as soon as practical.

 

[BlueE]

The one on the right looks mean!.. Do they look like any known suspects?

 

[BlueE]

I’m all for the Stansbury property to be dug. Castelloys dig was done based on less accusations & evidence than this Stansbury site. I think its something to have done as soon as practical.

And they seem to have dug around Yaltana with even less evidence for Beaumonts

 

[BlueE]

Then why the need for a petition to dig?

Maybe if it's not up to Max McIntyre to give permission anymore?

 

[GreyCrow]

Maybe if it's not up to Max McIntyre to give permission anymore?

I was responding to the question of if they have been removed

 

[BlueE]

It is FACT that a diary used to record the movements and activities of Munro, Andrew and others as they went fishing, diving and camp all around the coastline in December 19965 and January 1966 features false dates, giving the appearance that all of those "fun" times, which included Munro raping children he had gained the trust of, took place well after the disappearance of the Beaumont children.

I'm interested that if this is the diary used to help convict Tony Munro of historical child sex offences against two boys in 1965 and 1966, then who put the false dates in?

Were the false dates put in to imply the contact between TM and the boys was later than 1966 so according to TM they couldn't have happened?

The content of the photos proving they were taken in 1966 and some timestamps from photos taken from slides must have been enough for the Court to believe that the diary was showing TM and the boys in 1965 and 1966 and in fact the dates were false or altered?

 

[Kurve]

His contribution as a journalist?? I can't remember ever seeing this in any published or verbal interview he gave? Didn't you take this straight from facebook? And shouldn't you acknowledge that if that's allowed in the rules that is.

It came off the change.org petition where he clearly presents as a journalist.

Stop policing me it's getting really creepy.

 

[bluegirlz]

Then why the need for a petition to dig?

I’ve just been having this very same conversation with a Claire Halliday about this. Here’s what I get out of it. Ok, one group of siblings are wanting the site dug. They are standing by their claims. I happen to also believe that people wouldnt be ousting themselves & petitioning for this to happen if they had no basis for it. Why put yourself out there on a lie or a whim? They have no financial benefit for doing this.

The we have the other group who have ownership of the Stansbury property, who do not believe that Max was in any way shape or form associated with any kind of paedophilic groups or criminal ties. They will not allow access to the site for a dig. Although one of the owners agreed they could do it, Claire said she would provide a copy of the quote so I could crowd fund it but now she has told me it will all be on her Podcast & I have to make the quote arrangement (even though she has them). To be perfectly honest its just circles after circles from their side aswell. I’ll be contacting Forensic Archaeologists in SA to obtain the quote so we can get it up and going as soon as possible!

In my opinion the Stansbury site looks better than what the Castelloys site did & can not understand why it hasnt been looked into by sapol.

 

[bluegirlz]

And they seem to have dug around Yaltana with even less evidence for Beaumonts

Yaltana or Yatina? I havent heard the Yaltana link, will check that out!

 

[sprockets]

I'm interested that if this is the diary used to help convict Tony Munro of historical child sex offences against two boys in 1965 and 1966, then who put the false dates in?

Were the false dates put in to imply the contact between TM and the boys was later than 1966 so according to TM they couldn't have happened?

The content of the photos proving they were taken in 1966 and some timestamps from photos taken from slides must have been enough for the Court to believe that the diary was showing TM and the boys in 1965 and 1966 and in fact the dates were false or altered?

"IF" it's the diary now? More "false dates"? Paleeeasssse! The dates in 'the diary' are from later, long after the Beaumont disappearance, according to someone who's working with the McIntyres. It's time to give up the charade, there's zero actual evidence and when looked further into none of it makes any sense, to an intelligent person.

BTW Munro pleaded guilty so what evidence was put forward? There was no trial, hence no evidence required, simply a statement of alleged facts read out by the prosecution.

 

[sprockets]

I’ve just been having this very same conversation with a Claire Halliday about this. Here’s what I get out of it. Ok, one group of siblings are wanting the site dug. They are standing by their claims. I happen to also believe that people wouldnt be ousting themselves & petitioning for this to happen if they had no basis for it. Why put yourself out there on a lie or a whim? They have no financial benefit for doing this.

The we have the other group who have ownership of the Stansbury property, who do not believe that Max was in any way shape or form associated with any kind of paedophilic groups or criminal ties. They will not allow access to the site for a dig. Although one of the owners agreed they could do it, Claire said she would provide a copy of the quote so I could crowd fund it but now she has told me it will all be on her Podcast & I have to make the quote arrangement (even though she has them). To be perfectly honest its just circles after circles from their side aswell. I’ll be contacting Forensic Archaeologists in SA to obtain the quote so we can get it up and going as soon as possible!

In my opinion the Stansbury site looks better than what the Castelloys site did & can not understand why it hasnt been looked into by sapol.

Isn't there a $3mil reward at stake? Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

 

[bluegirlz]

Isn't there a $3mil reward at stake? Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

Im not sure of the reward on offer. Maybe defending a legacy means more to some? It could also be that the McIntyre claims are true & if that hole is opened, it may put an end to many many cold cases, but raise many more questions, who knows? we wont know if its not dug.

 

[bluegirlz]

Yaltana or Yatina? I havent heard the Yaltana link, will check that out!

If we are speaking Yatina, the search (particulary searching for Joanne & Kirste) yes the search was poor. The information & maps provided by Mark Marshall was called ‘fantasies’ by sapol, yet private investigators found a lit of evidence out there, provided to sapol with a solicitor present only to have them all ‘lost’. Fairly poor effort by sapol to ‘lose’ evidence, although not the first time its happened in sapol history!

 

[sprockets]

Im not sure of the reward on offer. Maybe defending a legacy means more to some? It could also be that the McIntyre claims are true & if that hole is opened, it may put an end to many many cold cases, but raise many more questions, who knows? we wont know if its not dug.

You really don't know the reward? I just checked and found out it's $1mil, so apologies. I reckon part of an estate might also be on offer through legal action but that's purely speculation on my part. It's still a LOT of money and well worth it for solving this case, so there is a very healthy financial benefit.

Beaumont Children - Crime Stoppers South Australia

Rewards up to $1,000,000 will be paid by the Government of South Australia, at the discretion of the Commissioner of Police, to anyone who provides information and assistance that leads to the conviction of the person or persons responsible for the suspected murders of Jane, Arnna and Grant...

crimestopperssa.com.au

 

[bluegirlz]

You really don't know the reward? I just checked and found out it's $1mil, so apologies. I reckon part of an estate might also be on offer through legal action but that's purely speculation on my part. It's still a LOT of money and well worth it for solving this case, so there is a very healthy financial benefit.

Beaumont Children - Crime Stoppers South Australia

Rewards up to $1,000,000 will be paid by the Government of South Australia, at the discretion of the Commissioner of Police, to anyone who provides information and assistance that leads to the conviction of the person or persons responsible for the suspected murders of Jane, Arnna and Grant...

crimestopperssa.com.au

I personally dont really look at what rewards are on offer with any case, I havent heard of many people being paid the reward eiher. The rewards are based in different requirements, such as one may be for ‘information leading to the arrest & conviction’ however this one is for either the location or the remains of all 3.
With regard to any estate action or claim, i guess thats who ever it concerns legal right. Even if you’ve been estranged, you do still have legal right to claim your share.
So you’re right to say there arr financial benefits, I guess there is for all partieS involved.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The AFP lists a $1m reward for information on the Beaumont case.

Grant BEAUMONT

On Australia Day, 26 January 1966, the three Beaumont children took a five-minute bus journey from their home to Glenelg beach. Jane (then aged 9), Arnna (then aged 7) and Grant (then aged 4) left their home in Harding Street, Somerton Park and failed to return home. Police investigating the...

missingpersons.gov.au

 

[bluegirlz]

The AFP lists a $1m reward for information on the Beaumont case.

Grant BEAUMONT

On Australia Day, 26 January 1966, the three Beaumont children took a five-minute bus journey from their home to Glenelg beach. Jane (then aged 9), Arnna (then aged 7) and Grant (then aged 4) left their home in Harding Street, Somerton Park and failed to return home. Police investigating the...

missingpersons.gov.au

& the reward itself is for either information leading an arrest & conviction against the person/s responsible &/or for the location & recovery of the victims remains.

does anyone else wonder why there has never been an inquest into this case?

 

[Kurve]

I personally dont really look at what rewards are on offer with any case, I havent heard of many people being paid the reward eiher. The rewards are based in different requirements, such as one may be for ‘information leading to the arrest & conviction’ however this one is for either the location or the remains of all 3.
With regard to any estate action or claim, i guess thats who ever it concerns legal right. Even if you’ve been estranged, you do still have legal right to claim your share.
So you’re right to say there arr financial benefits, I guess there is for all partieS involved.

We had a discussion about reward money on another thread in here fairly recently, the information on who, how much and when it's paid is usually protected information.