Unsolved The Beaumont Children

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

Soldier - any chance we could hear it? Or could you DM and send on?

the stuff about Percy and cannibalism? It's mentioned in Debi Marshall's book. There's surprisingly little direct quoting from his notes and writings.

 

[EyeMedia]

the stuff about Percy and cannibalism? It's mentioned in Debi Marshall's book. There's surprisingly little direct quoting from his notes and writings.

Were any of the suspects in the Beaumont case known for biting their victims? This could be the 'cannibalism' that got referred to in the recent paranormal investigation.

 

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They're made a part 2 and posted it on YouTube yesterday
Discusses channelling whilst driving and some other technicalities of communicating with the deceased.
Discusses the disposal of the Beaumont children as body parts from a boat at sea.
Asserts that DNA can still be found on the boat today.
Asserts that the boat still exists.
Combined with Part 1, it would appear that the name of the perpetrators and name of the boat and its current location is probably what the ghost whisperers are alluding to in what evidence that they've told SAPOL about.

 

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They also posted an audio only description of their claims in their you tube at about the time that they posted part 1 a fortnight ago.
It is quite long and I haven't listened to it all yet.
I note that there are Facebook and other social media links to each of the mediums involved. I haven't looked at these to see if anything further has been mentioned.
Maybe someone might be interested to do so and report back.

 

[GreyCrow]

Just look at how successful Gerard Croiset was to know a charlatan when you see one

 

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I found the documentary called the Fisherman crosslinked on https://www.strangeoutdoors.com/tru...ont+children+on+Glenelg+Beach#google_vignette

I don't know if this has anything to do with why the Kyneton Physic videos mention "Fisherman" or not.



The Fishermen aired in Victoria in 2006.
Here is the review from The Age at the time.

The Fishermen

This exploration of the mind of child killer James Ryan O'Neill is compelling television.

www.theage.com.au

It would be likely that the Victorian psychics would had seen it 20 years ago, even if they didn't consciously remember doing so.

 

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A few months ago seven media plonked their 7 year old 2018 feature episode on YouTube. (Supposedly embarrassment wears off after 7 years, but it's there to show how over enthusiastically believing in claims by psychics such as Gerard Croiset can manipulate the media and lead nowhere)

 

[Ostins_Park]

I want to know who the "fisherman" is and which POIs owned a boat in the Adelaide area. Either way, they're all scumbags.

Dumping the dead at sea is far more efficient than on land.

I think there are a couple of options here. The documentary The Fisherman is about James Ryan O'Neill, currently banged up forever in Tasmania, and good heckin'g riddance.

But I don't think that's who the paranormal ladies are going on about, they clearly referenced two perps, one dead, one still alive, and the best fit there is McIntyre/Munro.

Park any (dis)beliefs for a moment and let's assume the kids really did reach out from the ether and make contact. It's not the worst theory in the world. You have McIntyre's kids insisting it was him. McIntyre fits the identikit and Munro could be the "boyfriend". And they had a boat, and were local divers and fishermen.

loads of assumptions there, sure. But surely the folks down at Sapol could check boat registrations, make a statement and at least rule out the line of inquiry if it's a dead end.

Fair enough in a live case, you wouldn't chase something like this as a priority, but with a stone cold case like this, I'm still convinced every lead is worth a look.

Would the police even act on this kind of lead, or do they just throw it in the bin and shake their heads?

 

[InstinctivelyAlert]

I think there are a couple of options here. The documentary The Fisherman is about James Ryan O'Neill, currently banged up forever in Tasmania, and good heckin'g riddance.

But I don't think that's who the paranormal ladies are going on about, they clearly referenced two perps, one dead, one still alive, and the best fit there is McIntyre/Munro.

Park any (dis)beliefs for a moment and let's assume the kids really did reach out from the ether and make contact. It's not the worst theory in the world. You have McIntyre's kids insisting it was him. McIntyre fits the identikit and Munro could be the "boyfriend". And they had a boat, and were local divers and fishermen.

loads of assumptions there, sure. But surely the folks down at Sapol could check boat registrations, make a statement and at least rule out the line of inquiry if it's a dead end.

Fair enough in a live case, you wouldn't chase something like this as a priority, but with a stone cold case like this, I'm still convinced every lead is worth a look.

Would the police even act on this kind of lead, or do they just throw it in the bin and shake their heads?

I think if the right amount of noise was made to the right people, it might get another look.

 

[EyeMedia]

I think there are a couple of options here. The documentary The Fisherman is about James Ryan O'Neill, currently banged up forever in Tasmania, and good heckin'g riddance.

But I don't think that's who the paranormal ladies are going on about, they clearly referenced two perps, one dead, one still alive, and the best fit there is McIntyre/Munro.

Park any (dis)beliefs for a moment and let's assume the kids really did reach out from the ether and make contact. It's not the worst theory in the world. You have McIntyre's kids insisting it was him. McIntyre fits the identikit and Munro could be the "boyfriend". And they had a boat, and were local divers and fishermen.

loads of assumptions there, sure. But surely the folks down at Sapol could check boat registrations, make a statement and at least rule out the line of inquiry if it's a dead end.

Fair enough in a live case, you wouldn't chase something like this as a priority, but with a stone cold case like this, I'm still convinced every lead is worth a look.

Would the police even act on this kind of lead, or do they just throw it in the bin and shake their heads?

It may seem strange or silly , but I believe police around Australia have in fact utilised the services of psychics and mediums and clairvoyants in their investigations from time to time... this includes those clairvoyants who can tell you what happened to a person/missing person by holding or handling a personal item of the victim, such as a piece of clothing.

 

[jason_recliner]

It may seem strange or silly , but I believe police around Australia have in fact utilised the services of psychics and mediums and clairvoyants in their investigations from time to time... this includes those clairvoyants who can tell you what happened to a person/missing person by holding or handling a personal item of the victim, such as a piece of clothing.

It sounds silly because it is silly. There is no evidence that psychic and clairvoyant ability is real.

 

[InstinctivelyAlert]

It may seem strange or silly , but I believe police around Australia have in fact utilised the services of psychics and mediums and clairvoyants in their investigations from time to time... this includes those clairvoyants who can tell you what happened to a person/missing person by holding or handling a personal item of the victim, such as a piece of clothing.

My grandmother worked as a clairvoyant years ago, and was consulted on the Beaumonts, the AO abductions, and the family murders. I’m learning more about it now, but I’m very interested to hear the ins and outs.

 

[GreyCrow]

loads of assumptions there, sure. But surely the folks down at Sapol could check boat registrations, make a statement and at least rule out the line of inquiry if it's a dead end.

From memory this was checked out because of the closeness of ''The Patawalonga '' an estuary inlet where boats were docked



As you can see its very close to the current site - that is the ''Revolving Restauarant '' in the background Colley Reserve in the foreground

Police divers spent days looking in there so checking boat ownership would have been done also

The "patawalonga" reference in the context of the Beaumont children's disappearance likely refers to Patawalonga Boat Haven, a location near Glenelg, South Australia, where the children were last seen and where search efforts focused. The Beaumont children, Jane, Arnna, and Grant, vanished in January 1966, and the Patawalonga Boat Haven was a primary area for search and rescue efforts.

Elaboration:

• Patawalonga Boat Haven:
  This is a body of water near Glenelg Beach where the children were last known to have been playing.
  
• Search Efforts:
  Immediately following the disappearance, police and volunteers launched a large-scale search, including searches of the Patawalonga Boat Haven by the Police Aqualung Squad.
  
• Drained and Searched:
  Investigators later drained the Patawalonga Boat Haven in an attempt to find the children's bodies.

 

[Heardy_101]

The "theory" has been disproven for much longer than 10 years, doesn't need me to do it. It seems reading is not some peoples thing i guess. You should feel proud, I just read through 250 pages of this thread and the comment i snided (?) on stood out as the most confidently stated but clearly wrong I had come across.
But that was early, the last 100 or so pages also contained some very confidently wrong fantasizing.
Get back on the horse old mate.

Which I said afterwards (which you didn't bother to read) that I came to that conclusion in the decade since I made that post.

I find it very hard to believe your claim that my comment stood out out of the 250+ pages, when you then say afterwards that the last 100 pages or so have also been pretty out there (which I won't disagree with).

My comment was based on a theory, and you chose to deliberately single mine out without contributing anything else to the topic, and you haven't singled out anyone else's, either.

It's not about feeling proud, you deliberately came into this thread to act like a prick and make a snide remark to someone specific (me)

Get back on your own horse, or better still, since you confidently state that everyone in this thread is wrong, put your money where your mouth is.

I suspect you probably won't.

 

[GreyCrow]

I wonder if the current roadworks will bring up anything along the South-North corridor works

Running pretty close to all those tunnels in Edwardstown

 

[InstinctivelyAlert]

I wonder if the current roadworks will bring up anything along the South-North corridor works

Running pretty close to all those tunnels in Edwardstown

I was thinking this myself. Interesting to see what comes!

 

[Heardy_101]

I wonder if the current roadworks will bring up anything along the South-North corridor works

Running pretty close to all those tunnels in Edwardstown

Sadly probably not.

 

[Lyn]

Yeah okay, understood.

I'm less convinced there's a direct link between the two cases. Or at least, I believe there's a possibility the BC case remaining unsolved may have emboldened the perpetrator in 1973.

My own theory for AO is that the perpetrator was from out of town, because he clearly did not give a flying fig about being seen by witnesses.

AO seems opportunistic whereas everything about the BC case appears to point to a planned operation.

What makes you think the AO case was opportunistic? Please explain

 

[Lyn]

I wonder if the current roadworks will bring up anything along the South-North corridor works

Running pretty close to all those tunnels in Edwardstown

Do you know where those tunnels ran and what they were used for? Are there maps anywhere?

 

[GreyCrow]

Do you know where those tunnels ran and what they were used for? Are there maps anywhere?

It was a tongue in cheek reference to previous posts on the subject

 

[Lyn]

Sorry, I haven't been on for a while. Thankyou for posting.

 

[Lyn]

Were any of the suspects in the Beaumont case linked to acts of cannibalism?

Interesting that you brought cannibalism up. I have mentioned this in my report.

 

[Lyn]

I have a feeling that the leave a light on foundation have raised the funds to run the forensic tests. But I could be wrong.

I think you could be right. All private funding. My thoughts of course are that it wasn't Hart. My belief is - leave no stone unturned. If someone, or group is willing to put the effort in, I think that's great.

 

[Lyn]

I agree. I’ve mentioned to Simone that it was actually through speaking to her that I realised just how obscured RV and AM’s claims were. And she hadn’t even tried to sway the conversation that way. She was simply answering my questions.
I know she was considering speaking on a podcast at one stage, though I’m not sure she has yet.

Has the dig at Stansbury taken place yet?

 

[Ostins_Park]

What makes you think the AO case was opportunistic? Please explain

Everything I've researched about the AO case suggests the perpetrator was not a local, therefore no prior grooming or interaction with the girls, and the fact the girls had already been down to the toilets earlier with no problems, leads to the conclusion that the guilty party happened upon the girls during that second toilet break, realised there was a window, and conducted a heinous crime of opportunity.