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Yeah I'm sure Edwards is great but really the whole turn around of the club is down to one man.
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We will miss him.
And we may return to being shite.
And we may return to being shite.
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Yeah I'm sure Edwards is great but really the whole turn around of the club is down to one man.
Before Klopp came in there were people saying a lot of his success is down to having a brilliant sporting director like Michael Zorc and that he won’t be able to deal with our rubbish transfer committee led by Michael Edwards. We all know what’s happened to both clubs since then.
If the club think Edwards is a good appointment to bring back then cool, I’m glad they’re being pro active, but to me it’s hardly something to celebrate or even be excited about. It’s nice to know the club aren’t sitting on their hands but that’s about it. The rest is wait and see.
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Agree that Klopp has been central to our success, but this idea that he was unilaterally behind everything good that has happened at the club recently and everyone else was riding his coat tails is fantasy.
- No good large business has ever been run that way.
- If this were actually true then I can't see why FSG would have pursued Edwards as strongly as they have in the past few months, and made his recruitment the #1 priority.
There are a number of reports highlighting our industry leading use of data analytics to inform decision making (including transfer strategy) - heavily backed in by our owners. "Uncool" backroom staff like Ian Graham and Michael Edwards were driving this part of the club, not Klopp.
We know that sometimes he and Klopp didn't see eye to eye on this. For example, Klopp wanted Brandt over Salah and was overruled. It sounds as though Klopp's desire for greater control was a factor in Edwards leaving in the first place. Personally I think managers should always have input on transfer strategy to ensure this is aligned with their vision, but I don't think they should have 100% control of this.
Edwards was also in charge of negotiating our outgoings, extorting remarkable transfer fees for some of our fringe players in the process.
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Im thrilled to have Edwards back, dont get me wrong. But if you can only have one at the club, Klopp or Edwards, then the answer is obvious.
Let's not forget since Edwards left the club our incomings have been Diaz, Konate, Nunez, Gakpo, Endo, Gravenberch, Szoboszlai and Mac Allister. So we have certainly gone alright since he left.
But perhaps that is the system he had instilled and had in place when he left that continued to work. We wont know as we are not on the inside.
The two things can be separate. It sucks that Jurgen is leaving. But its also great that Edwards is coming back.
Hopefully we can just continue to be flawless in the transfer market like we have largely been in Klopp's time at the club so that whoever comes in has the easiest job possible. They wont be Jurgen Klopp but at least we can hopefully have a really good and competitive squad to do as well as they can with.
Let's not forget since Edwards left the club our incomings have been Diaz, Konate, Nunez, Gakpo, Endo, Gravenberch, Szoboszlai and Mac Allister. So we have certainly gone alright since he left.
But perhaps that is the system he had instilled and had in place when he left that continued to work. We wont know as we are not on the inside.
The two things can be separate. It sucks that Jurgen is leaving. But its also great that Edwards is coming back.
Hopefully we can just continue to be flawless in the transfer market like we have largely been in Klopp's time at the club so that whoever comes in has the easiest job possible. They wont be Jurgen Klopp but at least we can hopefully have a really good and competitive squad to do as well as they can with.
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According to this graphic Diaz and Konate were Edwards signings.
TransferMarkt has him leaving at the end of June 2022, so that would be Konate yes, Diaz no.
On the other hand he got $3m more for Kevin Stewart than we paid for Harvey Elliott (and years later).
FSG has bought a LOT of new sports property in the past two years, honestly grim. It's all just a part of the "portfolio"
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Gravenberch returned to training but not sure if that means he'll play a game before the int break.
Danns still out with a concussion. Musialowski and Pinnington did not train, ineligible players Nallo and Nyoni did.
Possible we go with something like this?
Koumas-Gakpo-Gordon
Clark-McConnell-Szoboszlai
Kostas-Quansah-Gomez-Bradley
Kelleher
Subs: Adrian, VVD, Robbo, Endo, Macca, Elliott, Diaz, Salah, Nunez
Danns still out with a concussion. Musialowski and Pinnington did not train, ineligible players Nallo and Nyoni did.
Possible we go with something like this?
Koumas-Gakpo-Gordon
Clark-McConnell-Szoboszlai
Kostas-Quansah-Gomez-Bradley
Kelleher
Subs: Adrian, VVD, Robbo, Endo, Macca, Elliott, Diaz, Salah, Nunez
I think Grav is in the squad tomorrow but doesn't start before the international break.
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Salah starts for sure. Needs minutes in his legs.
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I reckon he gets half an hour tonight and starts against the Mancs in the cup.
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We need to calm down a bit. Of course we're in a very good position to move onto the QF's but rolling out guys who have never played for Liverpool into a Europa League QF is a bit much. Haha
I know we've done it with other kids this season, but I think we might be starting to push the envelope.
Both Szobo and Mo will probably start just for fitness, other than that, anyone who'd start against the Mancs should stay at home and watch the game on TV
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There was never a real competition between Klopp and Pep all these years.
If Guardiola spent 300 million and his signings failed - Pep would have to find new players for 300 million and sell the failed ones. He could repeat this until he succeeded.
If Klopp signed 300 million worth of players and they all failed - Klopp would have to find another job. Huge difference.
This summer, if Klopp had spent 250 million on Gvardiol, Doku, Nunes and Kovacic, he'd be fired. Guardiola will just sell all 4 and buy another 4 next year. There's no real comparison between two managers with such drastically different challenges. Klopp just made it look like a competition because he beat Pep on head-to-head record...despite having one hand tied behind his back relative to Pep. Klopp could have done Pep's job at City easily, but Pep would have no chance at Liverpool. Trent's comments last week rattled so many because he was absolutely spot on.
There was never a real competition between Klopp and Pep all these years.
If Guardiola spent 300 million and his signings failed - Pep would have to find new players for 300 million and sell the failed ones. He could repeat this until he succeeded.
If Klopp signed 300 million worth of players and they all failed - Klopp would have to find another job. Huge difference.
This summer, if Klopp had spent 250 million on Gvardiol, Doku, Nunes and Kovacic, he'd be fired. Guardiola will just sell all 4 and buy another 4 next year. There's no real comparison between two managers with such drastically different challenges. Klopp just made it look like a competition because he beat Pep on head-to-head record...despite having one hand tied behind his back relative to Pep. Klopp could have done Pep's job at City easily, but Pep would have no chance at Liverpool. Trent's comments last week rattled so many because he was absolutely spot on.
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I've always said this. Klopp can do what Pep did at City but Pep couldnt do what Klopp did at Liverpool. I think Pep's exceptional but he's yet to be truly tested. Barcelona with the greatest Barcelona team they have ever had then Bayern in a one team league and then City, the richest club on Earth before Newcastle happened.
He's never truly tested himself. Yet you look at Klopp, he takes on BVB and topples Bayern then he takes on Liverpool, nearly 3 decades of failure and takes on City and takes us back to the top. Klopp is a genius and you can bet when he's had a rest he wont pop up as Real Madrid manager or Barcelona or PSG etc. He will be at a big club, but one that is in need of a project, a challenge. Like a Valencia or Roma or something... I dont know. But will always follow him and hope he succeeds wherever he goes. Legend.
Little bit too strong for my liking - hopefully we lead at HT and a few of the stars come off.
This club does a lot of fantastic things - tweeting the starting XI in number order isn’t one of them.
This club does a lot of fantastic things - tweeting the starting XI in number order isn’t one of them.
