Personal Experience The Dark Night of the Soul

[Janus]

This is based off a presentation Caroline Myss made, but I believe if just one person gains insight from it, it will be worth posting here.

A dark night of the soul is an entire archetypal journey. It has an agenda, a path. The purpose of a dark night is to break you down and change your understanding how the divine works in your life. How the nature of the invisible world works in your life.

The symptoms of the Dark Night are "Am I in a battle with god? Is my life not following my logical conclusions? My logical order? Do I feel like I need to change internally in order to proceed? I can't change anything else...it's me that has to change." And the changes that need to be made are soul deep.

Every single person starts out with this idea that there are logical reasons why things happen the way they do. That there is a way we can behave, and we can form a kind of parent-child relationship with god...in such a way that if we are good, bad things won't happen to us. That if we receive guidance, that somehow if we follow that guidance we will be protected from bad things, or rewarded if we struggle.

It's as if feeling special is the counter product to difficulty, or that the sign that you've made the right decision in your guidance is supposed to be that everything went smoothly. "I know it was the right decision because right after I made that decision, everything was easy"...and if it doesn't go easy, we say "Excuse me, I did everything that you asked me to and things still went bad. Explain yourself!"

That's how human beings reason.

The First Stage of the Dark Night of the Soul - The Night of the Senses

This is a confrontation with exactly that kind of reasoning. When we follow our inner intuition and instead of things getting easier, they get harder. Because the way you look for validation if you've done the right thing is that you except things to get easier as a result of your actions...you expect fairness, you expect justice...you expect heaven to somehow have the wind at your back because you've followed what you believe is the righteous course of action.

This comes from a childish view of god. Unless everything is reasonable, unless everything is fair...then there is no such thing as god. It's just a man made thing. But the Night of the Senses is about a realisation - life is not about fairness, but how we respond in the midst of unfairness. Life is not about reason, but how we navigate the unreasonable.

This is the journey of our soul. How is it possible that we can choose to be loving in the midst of cruelty? To be forgiving in the midst of insanity? This is the great choice - we can choose reason, which is the product of ego i.e "Why is this happening to me?". We can accept the fact that even if we do what we feel is right we might not get the reward we are after, and nothing we do actually matters because we are not unique or special...which is the product of reason. This is what Christ felt when he shouted "My god, my god, why have you forsaken me?"

Or we can choose love in the midst of insanity and the midst of cruelty, because it's the only thing that makes sense...and what doesn't make sense will suddenly make sense. The mystical paradox.

The Second Stage of the Dark Night of the Soul - The Night of the Spirit

In the first night, we come to the realisation that the god of personal favouritism and personal justice is a myth, merely the god we want. We realise that in thinking that we somehow deserve everything to go a certain way, that we have limited our capacity to love, we have withheld compassion, and how and why we have judged others. This is mystical, or divine, love.

We need the Dark Night of the Soul. We desperately need the experience of cosmic disappointment. We need to confront why we desperately need life to be reasonable and fair. To want life to be what it can never, ever, ever be...and why we keep insisting that life is like that.

We must confront why we become so angry at people who we feel let us down...that when they do something we think "This is so unfair! This is so not right!" That we think that bad things shouldn't happen to us because we think we are so special. That unfair things can happen to others, but they shouldn't happen to us.

And why? Because we are terrified to display unconditional love, because our mind will say it shows weakness while our heart will say it shows strength. We are terrified of the depth of our own humanity, and it is only reason that allows us to control it. It's only our capacity to stay angry at life that allows us to control how much we will allow ourselves to love.

Once you've experienced a Dark Night of the Soul, you'll understand that you have an infinite capacity to inspire other people. Through divine love, you can become a mystic without a monastery.

 

[Shane Heard]

This is based off a presentation Caroline Myss made, but I believe if just one person gains insight from it, it will be worth posting here.

A dark night of the soul is an entire archetypal journey. It has an agenda, a path. The purpose of a dark night is to break you down and change your understanding how the divine works in your life. How the nature of the invisible world works in your life.

The symptoms of the Dark Night are "Am I in a battle with god? Is my life not following my logical conclusions? My logical order? Do I feel like I need to change internally in order to proceed? I can't change anything else...it's me that has to change." And the changes that need to be made are soul deep.

Every single person starts out with this idea that there are logical reasons why things happen the way they do. That there is a way we can behave, and we can form a kind of parent-child relationship with god...in such a way that if we are good, bad things won't happen to us. That if we receive guidance, that somehow if we follow that guidance we will be protected from bad things, or rewarded if we struggle.

It's as if feeling special is the counter product to difficulty, or that the sign that you've made the right decision in your guidance is supposed to be that everything went smoothly. "I know it was the right decision because right after I made that decision, everything was easy"...and if it doesn't go easy, we say "Excuse me, I did everything that you asked me to and things still went bad. Explain yourself!"

That's how human beings reason.

The First Stage of the Dark Night of the Soul - The Night of the Senses

This is a confrontation with exactly that kind of reasoning. When we follow our inner intuition and instead of things getting easier, they get harder. Because the way you look for validation if you've done the right thing is that you except things to get easier as a result of your actions...you expect fairness, you expect justice...you expect heaven to somehow have the wind at your back because you've followed what you believe is the righteous course of action.

This comes from a childish view of god. Unless everything is reasonable, unless everything is fair...then there is no such thing as god. It's just a man made thing. But the Night of the Senses is about a realisation - life is not about fairness, but how we respond in the midst of unfairness. Life is not about reason, but how we navigate the unreasonable.

This is the journey of our soul. How is it possible that we can choose to be loving in the midst of cruelty? To be forgiving in the midst of insanity? This is the great choice - we can choose reason, which is the product of ego i.e "Why is this happening to me?". We can accept the fact that even if we do what we feel is right we might not get the reward we are after, and nothing we do actually matters because we are not unique or special...which is the product of reason. This is what Christ felt when he shouted "My god, my god, why have you forsaken me?"

Or we can choose love in the midst of insanity and the midst of cruelty, because it's the only thing that makes sense...and what doesn't make sense will suddenly make sense. The mystical paradox.

The Second Stage of the Dark Night of the Soul - The Night of the Spirit

In the first night, we come to the realisation that the god of personal favouritism and personal justice is a myth, merely the god we want. We realise that in thinking that we somehow deserve everything to go a certain way, that we have limited our capacity to love, we have withheld compassion, and how and why we have judged others. This is mystical, or divine, love.

We need the Dark Night of the Soul. We desperately need the experience of cosmic disappointment. We need to confront why we desperately need life to be reasonable and fair. To want life to be what it can never, ever, ever be...and why we keep insisting that life is like that.

We must confront why we become so angry at people who we feel let us down...that when they do something we think "This is so unfair! This is so not right!" That we think that bad things shouldn't happen to us because we think we are so special. That unfair things can happen to others, but they shouldn't happen to us.

And why? Because we are terrified to display unconditional love, because our mind will say it shows weakness while our heart will say it shows strength. We are terrified of the depth of our own humanity, and it is only reason that allows us to control it. It's only our capacity to stay angry at life that allows us to control how much we will allow ourselves to love.

Once you've experienced a Dark Night of the Soul, you'll understand that you have an infinite capacity to inspire other people. Through divine love, you can become a mystic without a monastery.

Sounds a bit like Scientology...

 

[Janus]

Sounds a bit like Scientology...

Nothing like Scientology - it’s a personal journey of discovery and acceptance of the choice every person has to make: you can be a servant of the darkness, which is the product of ego, or a servant of light, which is the product of self-esteem.

 

[Shane Heard]

Nothing like Scientology - it’s a personal journey of discovery and acceptance of the choice every person has to make: you can be a servant of the darkness, which is the product of ego, or a servant of light, which is the product of self-esteem.

Yeah...it was late last night and was a tired flippant remark.

A servant of light? Positive thinking isn’t it.

I understand the premise I’ve what this is about. But honestly...it’s hard to get a full grasp of what you’re talking about. It’s too vague description.

Are you saying you follow some ideology or is it a religious group or some kind of new age spirituality group or course?

Just tell your story about your experience.

Otherwise you won’t get much response from too many people.

I’m interested in your experience but I tuned out when someone just writes

“Once you've experienced a Dark Night of the Soul, you'll understand that you have an infinite capacity to inspire other people. Through divine love, you can become a mystic without a monastery.”

That could mean anything really.

I’ve got a good imagination but that’s like reading a brief blurb on a book.

Show, don’t just tell.

 

[Janus]

Hmmm...it’s different for everyone. I could tell you my personal experience but it would make zero sense to you because you would have a different outlook on the situation, because you wouldn’t be able to understand why I chose that path to begin with. But since you asked, I’ll tell you. First, a little background.

The first person to experience a dark night of the soul was Saint John of the Cross. He felt he had been ordained by God to help reform the religious order he was a part of and bring it back to its original mission. However, he was thrown into prison by his brothers and tortured for months - which led to his crisis of faith. He thought “I’m doing what I believe god told me to do...why am I being punished for it?” He had two options: the first option was to believe there was no god, and that we are ruled by personal desire...and the second was to believe that god did exist and it was his viewpoint on god that needed to change.

So we come to my personal experience. For a long time, I was an orthodox Christian. I did whatever was expected of me, trusting that god would reward me with “treasures in heaven”. So it puzzled me to see people who I knew weren’t doing the right thing get rewarded and praised by others...I thought that if god was real, he would reveal the true nature of the hearts of these individuals. But it never happened.

And then I realised...it wasn’t the people that were the problem, it was me. It was my concept of god being a personal saviour, giving me what I want. Suddenly I realised that no matter what anyone says, we are on this planet to learn how to love and live peaceably with others and to reflect the qualities of the divine. To love the unloveable. Life isn't actually meant to be fair, because it's impossible for the physical world to be fair - what you want from someone may not be what they want for themselves. As soon as you start introducing other people's thoughts into the equation, the idea of 'paradise' and 'heaven' becomes extremely cloudy unless you are talking about a concept that only exists in the mind as a lucid dream.

And that’s when I started looking into other religions - not to reject what I believe, but to augment it and find the common thread between all of them to discover the real truth. This is what it states in the 14th tablet of Thoth the Atlantean:

"Before I return to the Halls of Amenti, taught ye shall be the Secret of Secrets, how ye, too, may arise to the Light. Preserve and guard them, hide them in symbols, so the profane will laugh and renounce. In every land, form ye the mysteries. Make the way hard for the seeker to tread. Thus will the weak and the wavering be rejected. Thus will the secrets be hidden and guarded..."

It's from that point that I became a Hermeticist/Alchemist/Stoic with a Christian background.

 

[Shane Heard]

Such a shame...

Hermeticists generally attribute 42 books to Hermes Trismegistus,[citation needed] although many more have been attributed to him. Most of them, however, are said to have been lost when the Great Library of Alexandria was destroyed.

Love stoicism. Do you follow that stoic fb page? It’s pretty good.

 

[Janus]

Such a shame...

Hermeticists generally attribute 42 books to Hermes Trismegistus,[citation needed] although many more have been attributed to him. Most of them, however, are said to have been lost when the Great Library of Alexandria was destroyed.

Love stoicism. Do you follow that stoic fb page? It’s pretty good.
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I don't do Facebook. There's something to be said for the tactile feel of turning a page that makes ideas resonate more clearly.

I also find it odd that a stoic would seek to profit monetarily from the highest virtue. I guess everyone has to make a living, and I've got no problem with Holiday condensing down stoic texts into a more accessible format so people can understand it more easily...but I'd feel odd trying to shamelessly commercialise a philosophy with rings and medallions. One of the fundamental tenets of Stoicism is being indifferent to fortune...I just don't think Marcus Aurelius would be out there shilling cheap jewellery.

There's a reason why I listed stoicism last - it's like a gateway drug to Alchemy and Hermeticism. If you want to take the red pill, read the following:



And you’ll see how far the rabbit hole goes...

 

[Shane Heard]

I don't do Facebook. There's something to be said for the tactile feel of turning a page that makes ideas resonate more clearly.

I also find it odd that a stoic would seek to profit monetarily from the highest virtue. I guess everyone has to make a living, and I've got no problem with Holiday condensing down stoic texts into a more accessible format so people can understand it more easily...but I'd feel odd trying to shamelessly commercialise a philosophy with rings and medallions. One of the fundamental tenets of Stoicism is being indifferent to fortune...I just don't think Marcus Aurelius would be out there shilling cheap jewellery.

There's a reason why I listed stoicism last - it's like a gateway drug to Alchemy and Hermeticism. If you want to take the red pill, read the following:

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And you’ll see how far the rabbit hole goes...

Tactile...good word that.

Looks interesting...found the PDF to read.

I’ll chase the white rabbit for awhile and see how it goes...

 

[Janus]

Here’s another book to read:



The Latin reads - 'Visit the interior of the earth and rectifying (i.e. purifying), you will find the hidden/secret stone' I.e the Philosopher’s Stone.

Another good one is this:



Many left-hand path religions will twist Hermeticism. Thelema states that “Do as though will shall be the whole of the law”, and while it is true that Hermes/Mercury/Thoth says that we need to think as God in order to understand him...he never once equates man with God. Rather, Hermeticism states that divinity and immortality is something we can aspire to after being purified and discarding our earthly body for the fiery coat of spirit.

If there’s a Force, true Hermeticism is it. It has a light and dark side.

 

[Janus]

These lectures will give you some idea about Hermeticism.

 

[Janus]

Dark knight of the soul????????????? I hate everything about this world. It is bulls**t. All the symbolism all the hidden meanings .Means nothing. It is all f’ed.

You should watch the first video I posted. Sounds like you're suffering from the pathology of repression, which is the first stage on the pathway to transformation. "It results in our feeling of loss, dissatisfaction, boredom and in-authenticity....'What's the purpose of it all? Why am I here?'" Often happens when Saturn is returning through your natal astrological house, and it's basically a realisation that you need to pick a path now since you're all grown up.

You wouldn't happen to be in your late 20s/early 30s by any chance?

The symbolism is just a way of representing things that are subconscious in nature in a way that initiates could understand, because they are talking about internal rationalisations. No one can 'show' you magical energy, because it's spirit based and doesn't have a physical form. So they use terms like 'imagine blue fire' etc.

 

[Janus]

Here's a series of experiences that one should have when on the path to initiation:

1. Normal waking physical state - Symbolism of the crossing of a threshold like passing through a door or a gate, entering a path or entering in a forest, etc. - Once the threshold crossed, peculiar or strange feeling. - Surroundings dating from a distant past, sometimes centuries, telltale houses and clothes of people present; these people do not seem to perceive the initiate-to be.

As for the initiate, let us specify that he should not establish contact with the people encountered. - Vision of a chapel, a temple or a large house whose door attracts like a magnet - Entry inside the place of worship and attend a service always conducted by Priestesses in orange outfits - Exit, return and cross the threshold - All is over, and in a few seconds, a small event always prevents us to find the place that has been left and even the threshold. (In one of three experiences, one of us found the entrance, but several years later and after much research. However crossing the threshold did not give rise to any experience).

Our conclusion for the first series is that these were Initiations in the following three Sephiroth: Yesod, the Moon, Hod Mercury and Netzach Venus. Insofar as the ceremony of Initiation affords us the leisure, it is likely that the symbols of the relevant Sephira can be found in the initiation chamber. Then, after a period of between six to eighteen months, we find that some sephirotic functions were awakened:

Moon: without changing anything, or at least by changing little, removes all obstacles blocking the Initiatory Path.

Venus: gives understanding and authority over nature.

Mercury: makes the person is a miniature Thoth-Hermes that will grow with work, whether his choice is that of Maggi or Alchemist.

2. They occur at night, during sleep or in trance before sleep. Note that they can take place before the preceding series has taken place. The state of consciousness is not that of dream because it is a hyper-conscious state.

Very often the initiation ceremony takes place in a temple at the top of a never ending staircase. What is hard to explain is the planetary nature of these experiences. In a sense, although higher than the initiations of the first series, these experiences are less "spectacular" for consciousness. They concern: Tiphareth, the Sun; Gedulah, Jupiter and Geburah, Mars. The outcome is, as before, an awakening of the functions of the three Sephiroth concerned. These are functions hard to explain in writing, except perhaps for Jupiter which gives a profound awakening in the field of esotericism. Contrasting the effects of these two series of experiences on the earth consciousness is important.

In the first series, for consciousness, only the time element is changed; if there is altered space, its appearance remains essentially like on earth. Also, one’s consciousness adapts very quickly to this situation. Some people have realized the abnormality of the situation only at the sight of the Priestesses in orange outfits. In the second series of experiences, both time and space are heavily modified. Also there exists here a possibility of misinterpretation. This is particularly true of the planetary nature of the experience, probably due to the influx of the Genie of the Presence of the Sephira which is very strong. Thus, a number of people do think that the initiation took place on another planet than Earth. Things become much clearer and more logical if we think that this is an initiation into our own inner world.

3. It concerns the upper Triad Binah, Chokmah and Kether. These experiences are outside space-time as the space-time duality is cast in one unit: Eternity. We believe that these initiations have no time on the earth plane and that, whatever interpretation later on by the physical consciousness, the experience did not exist in time. Otherwise the physical vehicles that belong to duality would be irreversibly destroyed through contact with the infinite. What do we get from the contact of these Initiations? It is almost impossible to describe these experiences because you cannot access the infinite with a finite channel and limited language.

Also what is said now is only mutilation of what information has been received. First we know that the Being is and that it is not possible otherwise. That's why the Universe is and the Naught is not. Consciousness in this state is omniscient. Everything is known, and we have both the Knowledge and awareness of all beings. The illusion of time and space disappears into Eternity.

After all three experiences, a knowledge element remains. After the "return" a function of the higher Sephiroth is awake. We said at the beginning we thought these three sets of experiences were quadruple, or four times nine experiments over multiple lifetimes. Indeed, we believe that each series of these experiences corresponds to one of four ladders of the Qabala. The supreme and final series includes the awakening of Aziluth faculties in each of the Sephiroth. It may seem that this text is in contradiction with the initial warning. In reality, it is not so; the description of the experiences has been reduced to a thread, Ariadne’s thread in the initiation Labyrinth.

It seems useful to specify the nature of these experiences with the teachings and doctrines of the Golden Dawn Order. This organization states that the initiatory path is divided into three stages or three orders.

The First Order, we believe, is the first three experiences, then crossing the Veil of the Paroketh happens. (This is also called the Second Death, or Ego-Death)

The Second Order corresponds to the following three experiences, then comes crossing the Veil of the Abyss. (This is the Dark Night of the Soul - a realisation that the god we want doesn't actually exist and that if we want him to be understanding, compassionate and forgiving, we need to be understanding, compassionate and forgiving. As above, so below.)

Finally, the Third Order corresponds to the three timeless experiences. That is said only as indication and for comparison, these Orders corresponding to a level of contact in the Invisible. (This is where you have a transcendent experience and actually come face to face with God. There's no such thing as a Hermetic atheist - it's like dry water.)

"If you want to know God, you need to think like God. For like attracts like." - Corpus Hermeticum

 

[Run n Spread]

You should watch the first video I posted. Sounds like you're suffering from the pathology of repression, which is the first stage on the pathway to transformation. "It results in our feeling of loss, dissatisfaction, boredom and in-authenticity....'What's the purpose of it all? Why am I here?'" Often happens when Saturn is returning through your natal astrological house, and it's basically a realisation that you need to pick a path now since you're all grown up.

You wouldn't happen to be in your late 20s/early 30s by any chance?

The symbolism is just a way of representing things that are subconscious in nature in a way that initiates could understand, because they are talking about internal rationalisations. No one can 'show' you magical energy, because it's spirit based and doesn't have a physical form. So they use terms like 'imagine blue fire' etc.

Fractionally older but essentially on the money with the rest of it. Don't understand any of the symbolism thus its purpose. (from a personal point)

 

[Janus]

Fractionally older but essentially on the money with the rest of it. Don't understand any of the symbolism thus its purpose. (from a personal point)

You need to read this:



I haven’t bought this just yet - I will next week. But it will tell you everything you need to know.

 

[Janus]

The Hermeticist believes that the soul is not immortal - for immortality means a separation from Ein Sof, from Source. Most people travel on a path of reincarnation, ascending up the Path of Return and the Tree of Life, learning lessons in each lifetime until such time that they reach a state of reintegration with Source - the unification into the universal consciousness where individual ego is discarded and 'God becomes all things to everyone.' The 'broad and spacious road' that Christ spoke of that leads off into destruction - not just death itself, but destruction of the individual ego. These are the 'other sheep' - those that wish to take the easy path to salvation, to live their lives in the manner of that of a babe...believing the simple truth of religious tenets on face value. This is perfectly fine - imagine upon your death you are transported to whatever concept of heaven/paradise you believe in. Of course, the opposite is also true - if you believe that you are going to hell, then that's exactly where you will be, consumed by guilt and remorse. Your contribution to the universal consciousness determines your fate.

But there is another path - the Path of the Sublime. It is a sacred secret, and few find it. The narrow gate. This holds out the idea that by eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Bad, the human race was afforded the opportunity to receive an incorruptible crown - immortality. Separation and individuation from Ein Sof, and the ability to know God by casting off the physical body and putting on the fiery coat of the spirit body. This is a path available to all who choose to walk it, but it is a lonely path - people can guide you, but it's a journey of self-realisation, self-discovery and self-mastery.

Why are there two paths? Because everything begins with choice, and in the process of creation, duality is formed - one path to the left, one path to the right. This is why it is important to understand the fundamental truth that thoughts are an act of creation, and the more we dwell on them, the more tangible that creation becomes until they become physical reality.

This is why Christ said that "Any one who looks at a woman so as to form a longing for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." There comes a point where what we think will actually force another parallel reality to spin off where we did take that course of action. That's why the Hermeticist doesn't live with regret...he understands that his imagination, once fully formed, can allow him to see things that might have and are yet to happen with his mind's eye. From there, true faith is required to manifest those imaginings into physical reality.

It is at this point that most magicians branch off into black magic. Instead of using this power for introspection and healing of others, they focus outward and look toward what they can get from others - influencing others into situations and relationships that are only good for the magician and not for the other parties involved. The definition of evil is to know that what you are wanting to do will emotionally, spiritually, mentally or physically hurt someone...and doing it anyway. If you are using your thoughts and emotions for selfish reasons, this is black magic.

The Hermeticist, on the other hand, understands that it is possible to get what he or she wants while at the same time being a servant of light by actively giving to others and finding joy in that act. Once you gain joy from the joy of others, it becomes a cyclic loop, because they will want to do what you want in reciprocation. This is the evolutionary concept of mutual aid, and it's found through nature.

Of course, there will be people who you will do things for, and there will be no reciprocation at all, because they are spiritual black holes. These are the types that will take advantage of you and consider you to be their own personal wish fulfilment genie. Does the Hermeticist stop serving these people? Not at all! If God "makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous", then in order to think like God, we will continue to serve and 'pray for our enemies'. This is where the Dark Night of the Soul will occur.

Remember, no one said it was an easy path. It is a path of pure altruism. Of the Stoic four virtues, which are closely linked to the four cardinal qualities of God - wisdom, justice, courage and temperance.

 

[Janus]

Here's a couple of exercises for you to do on the path.

Exercise one - get a checker board made of black and white squares, 8x8 (so a chess board), and place it between two candles (which should be the only light in the room). Concentrate on the centre of the checker board until the black and the white squares - which represent the duality of nature - unify into grey.

Exercise two - same thing, except this time instead of a checker board, it's a mirror. Concentrate on the root of your nose (between the eyebrows) in the same manner as the checker board. If you feel any cold sensation, stop immediately by closing your eyes, and start again. Failure to do so leads to the risk of a psychically traumatic experience with "The Guardian of the Threshold":

The Guardian of the Threshold is a spectral figure and is the abstract of the debit and credit book of the individual. "It is the combined evil influence that is the result of the wicked thoughts and acts of the age in which any one may live, and it assumes to each student a definite shape at each appearance, being always either of one sort or changing each time" According to Max Heindel, the Dweller on the Threshold must be confronted by every aspirant—usually at an early stage of his progress into the unseen worlds—and is one of the main causes of obsession.

Obsession is demonic inspired neurosis that opens you up to possession through a nervous breakdown. You don't want to * around with that s**t, so make sure you close your eyes if you feel ANY cold sensation at all.

If you've done it right, the mirror will start to become dark, starting from the sides and working its way in with concentric pulses. Keep concentrating until the mirror becomes black.

Once you've mastered that, try it again, only this time, when the mirror becomes black, focus on your heart with the intention of slowing it down. You'll find in this state it becomes easy to do so, because you are in a state of self induced torpor.

Now...if you kept staring at the mirror after it went black, eventually it will begin to light up again, and you will see something or someone different from yourself. You have now accessed the Memories of Nature.

The next part of the exercise is to think of someone you want to see before beginning to look at the mirror...and when you get to the point where it lights up again, you will see their astral/lunar form in the mirror. This is what is known as scrying, and it is how you can communicate with the higher dimensions. Some will use a black mirror to short cut the first step.

 

[ferball]

You need to read this:

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I haven’t bought this just yet - I will next week. But it will tell you everything you need to know.

Didn't we trade in that writer for Brayden Preuss.

 

[Pessimistic]

The thought that humans have an inbuilt sense of fair play even though, like animals, we evolved in the food chain.

Is it this apparent inbuilt sense of fair play which got us out of the food chain, or did we evolve to get it once out of the chain?

 

[Wallaby]

The thought that humans have an inbuilt sense of fair play even though, like animals, we evolved in the food chain.

Is it this apparent inbuilt sense of fair play which got us out of the food chain, or did we evolve to get it once out of the chain?

We evolved it because we are social creatures, and those who acted 'fair' towards others within that society were more likely to breed. Other social species like dogs, dolphins and other primates also display actions we would consider 'acting fairly' between members of that society.

We are still in the food chain - we're just right at the top.

 

[Janus]

The thought that humans have an inbuilt sense of fair play even though, like animals, we evolved in the food chain.

Is it this apparent inbuilt sense of fair play which got us out of the food chain, or did we evolve to get it once out of the chain?

Who says we are out of it?

We might be an apex predator when it comes to physical food...but there are entities out there that have evolved to a point where they no longer have the need of a physical body and instead feed on emotion and thought forms of collective groups.

Human consciousness is not a tragic misstep in evolution, as Rust Cohle says...just another step along the path of return.

 

[Pessimistic]

We dont spend every minute worrying about eating or being eaten, so are out of the food chain.
We are still babies understanding what that means.

 

[Run n Spread]

Now...if you kept staring at the mirror after it went black, eventually it will begin to light up again, and you will see something or someone different from yourself. You have now accessed the Memories of Nature.

The next part of the exercise is to think of someone you want to see before beginning to look at the mirror...and when you get to the point where it lights up again, you will see their astral/lunar form in the mirror. This is what is known as scrying, and it is how you can communicate with the higher dimensions. Some will use a black mirror to short cut the first step.

Totally did this. And last night/morning I felt this weird sense of inner calm/peace no matter what else was happening. So tried it. And all I got was some weird voices calling my name. Felt * it I'll just go with it. But then nothing and came back into consciousness. Don't know what the universe is trying to tell me.

 

[Run n Spread]

Human consciousness is not a tragic misstep in evolution, as Rust Cohle says...just another step along the path of return.

Part of evolution. Didn't someone post on here what did we think before language was invented? If you had no words or speech to communicate how would you relate to being here?

 

[Procrastinator35]

We dont spend every minute worrying about eating or being eaten, so are out of the food chain....We are still babies understanding what that means.

As Aristotle noted, only once the basic requirements of our existence are met, I.E Food, water & shelter, does man then begin to philosophise.

We are never out of 'The food-chain' so to speak, due to the organic, biological nature of our creaturely being.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Part of evolution. Didn't someone post on here what did we think before language was invented? If you had no words or speech to communicate how would you relate to being here?

I believe she was intimating Revolution actually....Of which the term 'evolution' is a mere perversion of.

Without words, we would still have wonder & interaction prefaced upon a world of sensations & emotions at a bodily level.....Consciousness does not begin & end with words & concepts....they are merely communicative abstract extensions of thought......More often than not, they actually get in the way.