Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[Werewolf]

 

[Watchyourwaite]

I answer your questions,you just don't like the answer. How can anyone debate you,I'm still not even sure you get it I don't want to take your currently taught scientific method out of schools. Yes we can debate,there doesn't have to be a winner,and you don't have to get so angry and sooky because someone's not following your scientific rules,it's not the science board.
I don't dig what you say,live with it.

An entire post of lies. Shameful stuff.

Your position is to say that the reason we know 911 was an inside job is because there is a 75% chance a giant rock fell on that area.
You then refute any suggestion against it by saying that you wont conform to there religion of science.
"How can you believe video evidence when you cant prove the big bang?"
"There is a 25%-30% chance the buildings were actually there, but i am of the opinion that they never actually existed".

That isnt debate or discussion a topic. Its what kids would do at school when talking about how much stronger there daddy is than your daddy. Making things up with no proof or evidence or facts, and then claiming that existing proof/evidence/facts dont count because the big bang is still a working theory is completely insincere.

2 + 2 = 4.
"Yeah well there is a 30% chance that is true, but you cant prove the big bang so it could be 26".

 

[darthbards]

Thank you Werewolf for that,now I can still not see the whole earth so I'm within my rights to say that. We can have some friendly discussion over that but if it gets to the point neither is budging,neither is budging. Again that's fine,if we were to involve ourselves in abuse,name calling or drug addiction accusations,that is not on in my book. If people think the people over hear,on this board are such dullards,and they need to lower themselves to the things I just outlined,they are probably better off in the science forum,of which there actually is one on this very website.
I do not have to follow scientific method over here. I should use common sense,but if someone thinks my sense isn't common enough,the rules of the board should still be followed. I didn't invent FE and I've clearly stated I'm open to believing other theories are also possible. I can only answer questions on this topic going with the research that is out there from the FES. No different to how most people get their information regarding Gravity,dark matter or big bangs,except they are getting their information from sources with far greater budgets.

I have a proper scientific thread on the actual science board,that abides by proper scientific method,in relation to flat two dimensional black holes. I encourage you to check that out as I'd love to hear your views.

 

[darthbards]

An entire post of lies. Shameful stuff.

Your position is to say that the reason we know 911 was an inside job is because there is a 75% chance a giant rock fell on that area.
You then refute any suggestion against it by saying that you wont conform to there religion of science.
"How can you believe video evidence when you cant prove the big bang?"
"There is a 25%-30% chance the buildings were actually there, but i am of the opinion that they never actually existed".

That isnt debate or discussion a topic. Its what kids would do at school when talking about how much stronger there daddy is than your daddy. Making things up with no proof or evidence or facts, and then claiming that existing proof/evidence/facts dont count because the big bang is still a working theory is completely insincere.

2 + 2 = 4.
"Yeah well there is a 30% chance that is true, but you cant prove the big bang so it could be 26".

I've answered multiple questions regarding FE. I'm not willing to give a 100% answer because I don't believe humans are that intelligent. That's an answer.
I believe we need to factor in some important factors,I've mentioned them previously and answered. I think there are many things out there that our human minds can't currently perceive. If I think there are things we can't perceive,I'm not confident answering the 100% you wish,on anything on a universal scale.
I can only go on evidence and counter evidence available and with that answer in percentage terms.

I'm sorry but your Big Bang talk is like a child. It's a work in progress,no factual proof. You can't get sooky if you don't have factual proof. Your treating your theories,methods and beliefs, like a big teddy you have to hold onto as tightly as you can.

If you want proper debate in accordance to the methods you stand by,there is a science forum on this very website.

I also believe greater funding to the FES would help to increse the percentages you desire and I have also previously outlined this.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

So it turns out the "brilliant scientific minds" who champion the Flat Earth theory aren't actuallly scientific minds at all.

Wow! Who saw that coming?


@dathbards, I'm only going to warn you once, but this isn't the place to whinge about how the Science board dares to hold theories and ideas to account by scientific method. So stop.

Your arguments here are long and twisted as you try to escape reason, but you're ultimately bringing no evidence to the table other than that a Flat Earth society exists and "they'd have more evidence and proof if we gave them more funding".


Back your points up with something, or don't. Don't complain that your being asked to provide evidence of the most ridiculed "theory" on the globe.

 

[cannot]

Good post cannot. Thanks for bringing it to darthbards' attention.



And I think there is a huge difference between talking about conspiracies and the reasoning and pros and cons. Compared to saying that facts are no longer facts and everything is opinion therefor nothing is real.


Just saying whatever you want without having to back it up in any form, while replying to facts that counter your point with "Yeah well you know thats just like your opinion man" is not a sincere debate. Its actually meaningless spam.

simulation theories, the theory of gravity is directly related to FE theory

i was referring more to people trying to rise above the personal attacks as per the rules

darthbards is correct there are numerous respected scientists working on improved theories for gravity with less flaws

as for FE i dont doubt there are few as it wouldnt be a great look being a scientist of influence and claiming the world is flat given the status quo

in a similar way several medical professionals claim to believe in the 'mandela effect' , yet are worried to do so publicly due to getting sued, losing the job, etc

several things that have been mentioned as facts, no proof of motion, no photos of earth

the skeptics are responsible for much of the spam

 

[cannot]

So it turns out the "brilliant scientific minds" who champion the Flat Earth theory aren't actuallly scientific minds at all.

Wow! Who saw that coming?


@dathbards, I'm only going to warn you once, but this isn't the place to whinge about how the Science board dares to hold theories and ideas to account by scientific method. So stop.

Your arguments here are long and twisted as you try to escape reason, but you're ultimately bringing no evidence to the table other than that a Flat Earth society exists and "they'd have more evidence and proof if we gave them more funding".


Back your points up with something, or don't. Don't complain that your being asked to provide evidence of the most ridiculed "theory" on the globe.

given the board rules - the onus is on the 'away team' to prove the shape of the globe

more so, when you go out side to by your cup of tea always stays in the cup, unless you gently knock it with your spoon, the world does indeed seems flat and still.

the extraordinary claim which requires extra ordinary evidence, is that the globe is spinning 5 directions simultaneously at high speeds. the proof for this is a) the rules of this sub forum, b) logic and the human brain / eyes

 

[cannot]

darthbards

i found a video of earth 'spinning' from space !

it looks a bit fishy lol

 

[Watchyourwaite]

given the board rules - the onus is on the 'away team' to prove the shape of the globe

And they have.

when you go out side to by your cup of tea the world does indeed seems flat and still.

Yes. And you cant see that a human body has internal organs. Or that it is entirely made up of cells. Or that it is entirely made up of atoms.

You cant see the process that formed the cup for your tea. You cant see the molecular structure of the ceramic and how it compares to the molecular structure of your hand holding the cup.

Thats why scientists found ways to look deeper and further than the limitations of the human body.

Again you dont understand the difference between constant velocity and acceleration.

But apparently these are extraordinary claims.

 

[cannot]

if i cut you open i can see inside you

atom theory has been around for 2500 odd years

i think a few people here need a history lesson

 

[Watchyourwaite]

if i cut you open i can see inside you

Yes, but you need to do something in order to be able to observe what you cant currently see.
As is, looking at a person you cannot sense that they have internal organs.

atom theory has been around for 2500 odd years
i think a few people here need a history lesson

I think youve put your foot in your mouth with this one.
Can you expand on your point?

 

[darthbards]

And they have.

Yes. And you cant see that a human body has internal organs. Or that it is entirely made up of cells. Or that it is entirely made up of atoms.

You cant see the process that formed the cup for your tea. You cant see the molecular structure of the ceramic and how it compares to the molecular structure of your hand holding the cup.

Thats why scientists found ways to look deeper and further than the limitations of the human body.

Again you dont understand the difference between constant velocity and acceleration.

But apparently these are extraordinary claims.

You don't understand Universal Acceleration. You asked why the the accelerator doesn't keep accelerating and it's been explained it's not a force. It works different to majik Gravity in that it's a specific body of matter.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

You don't understand Universal Acceleration. You asked why the the accelerator doesn't keep accelerating and it's been explained it's not a force. It works different to majik Gravity in that it's a specific body of matter.

I am intrigued. Go on.

 

[darthbards]

I am intrigued. Go on.

it's been explained. You just didn't understand it. This is why FE theory needs to be taught in the education system.
You thought it would keep accelerating beyond the speed of light. You asked questions about the explanation and they were answered. To ask a question regarding the theory shows the theory was explained to you.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

it's been explained. You just didn't understand it. This is why FE theory needs to be taught in the education system.
You thought it would keep accelerating beyond the speed of light. You asked questions about the explanation and they were answered. To ask a question regarding the theory shows the theory was explained to you.

So you dont know?
Because it hasnt been explained.
Why can you just have a genuine discussion? I asked you to explain more about how, for example where I said "why the the accelerator doesn't keep accelerating" and how "it's not a force. It works different to majik Gravity in that it's a specific body of matter."
Do you not want to discuss it? Do you just want to make surface comments and then deflect? I am interested in your thoughts and understanding of it. Not someone elses.

 

[darthbards]

So you dont know?
Because it hasnt been explained.
Why can you just have a genuine discussion? I asked you to explain more about how, for example where I said "why the the accelerator doesn't keep accelerating" and how "it's not a force. It works different to majik Gravity in that it's a specific body of matter."
Do you not want to discuss it? Do you just want to make surface comments and then deflect? I am interested in your thoughts and understanding of it. Not someone elses.

You only explain someone else's thoughts on Gravity. Thoughts that are unproven. You only explain someone else's thoughts on Big Bang,a theory that is unproven.
You just have a different set of rules based on what you believe in.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

You only explain someone else's thoughts on Gravity. Thoughts that are unproven. You only explain someone else's thoughts on Big Bang,a theory that is unproven.
You just have a different set of rules based on what you believe in.

But I am able to explain them, because I understand them.

So why cant you do the same?

Do you not want a discussion on the theories behind the flat earth in the flat earth thread? Are you not being sincere?

Lets have an actual conversation.

You don't understand Universal Acceleration. You asked why the the accelerator doesn't keep accelerating and it's been explained it's not a force. It works different to majik Gravity in that it's a specific body of matter.

I am intrigued. Go on.

The floor is yours.

 

[darthbards]

But I am able to explain them, because I understand them.

So why cant you do the same?

Do you not want a discussion on the theories behind the flat earth in the flat earth thread? Are you not being sincere?

Lets have an actual conversation.



The floor is yours.

It's been explained and it was you who didn't understand.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

It's been explained and it was you who didn't understand.

Page after page of the same nothing posts from you.

Cant even link to where this has all been explained.
Cant explain it yourself.
No intention whatsoever to even try and discuss it.
You have no problem posting the same thing time after time after time. But as soon as your asked to go deeper or do anything other than fish, you dont want to talk about it anymore.


Why are you in these threads?

 

[darthbards]

Page after page of the same nothing posts from you.

Cant even link to where this has all been explained.
Cant explain it yourself.
No intention whatsoever to even try and discuss it.
You have no problem posting the same thing time after time after time. But as soon as your asked to go deeper or do anything other than fish, you dont want to talk about it anymore.


Why are you in these threads?

It was explained,I'm saying the same thing because you are. You even went on asking for further explanation,which was explained. How can you ask for further explanation if you didn't get an initial explanation?
You didn't understand because you kept saying the Acceleration would continue beyond the speed of light,which showed you don't understand UA but it was explained.
Why do you keep asking for the same explanation over and over?

 

[Watchyourwaite]

It was explained

Where? Link? Rough estimate on where over these 83 pages?

I'm saying the same thing because you are.

Im asking you for a discussion and you keep fobbing it off, and there is a 75% chance its because youve no idea what your talking about.

You even went on asking for further explanation,which was explained.

This doesnt mean anything. Where was the original explanation, and then the explanation of the explanation? Link? Rough estimate as to where over these 83 pages?

How can you ask for further explanation if you didn't get an initial explanation?

Where was the initial explanation? Link?

You didn't understand because you kept saying the Acceleration would continue beyond the speed of light

I did not say that at all. Nothing can accelerate past the speed of light. Just more lies from you.

which showed you don't understand UA

Something you just made up is the evidence that I dont understand something?

but it was explained.

Where? Link? Rough estimate on where over these 83 pages?

Why do you keep asking for the same explanation over and over?

Because you havent explained it. And you have then brought it up yourself and ive simply asked you to expand on the point that you brought up.

But this is just going to be post after post of me asking you to engage in discussion, and you continuing to troll. Not that im calling you a troll. But there is a 75% - 99% chance that you are a troll.

 

[darthbards]

Where? Link? Rough estimate on where over these 83 pages?

Im asking you for a discussion and you keep fobbing it off, and there is a 75% chance its because youve no idea what your talking about.

This doesnt mean anything. Where was the original explanation, and then the explanation of the explanation? Link? Rough estimate as to where over these 83 pages?

Where was the initial explanation? Link?
I did not say that at all. Nothing can accelerate past the speed of light. Just more lies from you.

Something you just made up is the evidence that I dont understand something?

Where? Link? Rough estimate on where over these 83 pages?

Because you havent explained it. And you have then brought it up yourself and ive simply asked you to expand on the point that you brought up.

But this is just going to be post after post of me asking you to engage in discussion, and you continuing to troll. Not that im calling you a troll. But there is a 75% - 99% chance that you are a troll.

Go find it yourself. UA has been explained on a few occasions.Like I said,you even replied once thinking it would keep accelerating...keep accelerating lol
I'm not going back over 80 pages because of your lack of memory,or game playing,and I'm not explaining things over and over just because your diverting from supplying factual proof of your belovered unproven Gravity.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Go find it yourself. UA has been explained on a few occasions.Like I said,you even replied once thinking it would keep accelerating...keep accelerating lol
I'm not going back over 80 pages because of your lack of memory,or game playing,and I'm not explaining things over and over just because your diverting from supplying factual proof of your belovered unproven Gravity.

So it stops accelerating? Thanks for explaining that.

So if it stops accelerating, why do we still feel the same effects as we would if gravity existed?

 

[darthbards]

So it stops accelerating? Thanks for explaining that.

So if it stops accelerating, why do we still feel the same effects as we would if gravity existed?

You are slow,it's was explained....to you.
It doesn't stop accelerating lol.
It's not a force,it's a specific body of matter.
No one said it stops accelerating,you thought it would keep accelerating because you don't understand how UA works,despite the fact it was explained.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

You are slow,it's was explained....to you.
It doesn't stop accelerating lol.
It's not a force,it's a specific body of matter.
No one said it stops accelerating,you thought it would keep accelerating because you don't understand how UA works,despite the fact it was explained.

So it doesnt stop accelerating but it also doesnt continue accelerating.
Dont those two statements contradict each other?

And please no need for the insults, I am just trying to engage you in discussion.

It's not a force,it's a specific body of matter.

What is a force in your opinion?