Mega Thread The Former Player Thread: Part 2

[rustycrate]

Fallen AFL player faces more family violence-related charges

Former AFL player Elijah Taylor’s football career appears all but over after the banished Sydney Swan was again in court on family violence-related matters — this time involving his new partner.

thewest.com.au

I guess some people never learn.
He was signed to play in the WAFL this season.
Who knows what the future holds for him.

There is a lot of systemic violence in aboriginal communities. This is a major problem that needs to be addressed. Kids growing up in these communities project these problems and are not immune to them affecting them long term in their lives.
Easy to lay blame on one thing.
Much harder to investigate and look to causes and implement long term fixes involving the communities in those fixes.
Its a hard one.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

There is a lot of systemic violence in aboriginal communities. This is a major problem that needs to be addressed. Kids growing up in these communities project these problems and are not immune to them affecting them long term in their lives.
Easy to lay blame on one thing.
Much harder to investigate and look to causes and implement long term fixes involving the communities in those fixes.
Its a hard one.

This bloke isn’t living in some remote aboriginal community. He’s living in metro Perth, has all sorts of support mechanisms & isn’t disadvantaged in any way.

Whilst I agree there’s broader problems in certain communities, Taylor’s actions are inexcusable.

 

[rustycrate]

This bloke isn’t living in some remote aboriginal community. He’s living in metro Perth, has all sorts of support mechanisms & isn’t disadvantaged in any way.

Whilst I agree there’s broader problems in certain communities, Taylor’s actions are inexcusable.

Easy to say where he is living. Harder to say influences in his upbringing. You may be right. And you may be wrong as to where he grew up.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Easy to say where he is living. Harder to say influences in his upbringing. You may be right. And you may be wrong as to where he grew up.

He was born in Perth, attended Linwood High (a pretty good metro high school), played WAFL for Perth & although there might be factors in the upbringing I’m unaware of, I can’t see anyone to blame other than E.Taylor himself.

 

[rustycrate]

He was born in Perth, attended Linwood High (a pretty good metro high school), played WAFL for Perth & although there might be factors in the upbringing I’m unaware of, I can’t see anyone to blame other than E.Taylor himself.

I could argue with you all night but I won't. I'm not excusing his behaviour one bit. What I will say is it is easy to judge from afar. Not so easy when you know of systemic issues in vulnerable communities that persist and create ongoing problems. These can be in urban or remote communities as families have reach beyond geography.

 

[caesar88]

It can be problematic to treat the inexcusable as irredeemable.

Also problematic is confusing a "reason" with an "excuse."

That leads to focusing too much on the issue in isolation and punishing it, rather than understanding the source of the issue and preventing re-occurrence.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I could argue with you all night but I won't. I'm not excusing his behaviour one bit. What I will say is it is easy to judge from afar. Not so easy when you know of systemic issues in vulnerable communities that persist and create ongoing problems. These can be in urban or remote communities as families have reach beyond geography.

Yeah, it’s an argument that can’t be resolved - there’s no absolutes.

I’m just glad that the Swans took decisive action. I’d find it VERY difficult to cheer him in a game.

 

[rustycrate]

Yeah, it’s an argument that can’t be resolved - there’s no absolutes.

I’m just glad that the Swans took decisive action. I’d find it VERY difficult to cheer him in a game.

me too

 

[hairy biker]

Article about Dan Hanneberry;

The Dan plan: Find out why there's still hype and hope for Hanners

Brett Ratten sheds light on Dan Hannebery's pre-season, and explains why the veteran is so valuable to the Saints

www.afl.com.au

Goes into detail about the efforts he has made to get his body right.

And I must admit sometimes I do forget just how good he was;

Four years of persistent injuries can make you forget how good Hannebery was at Sydney. He played a key role in Sydney's 2012 premiership, earned three All-Australian blazers in the Harbour City, polled at least 20 votes in the Brownlow Medal on the three separate occasions – 107 in total – and won the 2015 AFL Coaches Association Champion Player of the Year Award, ahead of that year's Brownlow Medal winner Nat Fyfe.

Hope the poor bugger gets a decent run this year.

 

[caesar88]

Article about Dan Hanneberry;

The Dan plan: Find out why there's still hype and hope for Hanners

Brett Ratten sheds light on Dan Hannebery's pre-season, and explains why the veteran is so valuable to the Saints

www.afl.com.au

Goes into detail about the efforts he has made to get his body right.

And I must admit sometimes I do forget just how good he was;


Hope the poor bugger gets a decent run this year.

No chance I'd forget how good he was. When I think back on the successful era from 2012-2016, the first two players that come to mind are JPK & Hanners. Both as individuals and as a pair. As a huge fan of midfield duos, they were bloody awesome.

 

[Tedeski]

Easy in hindsight but geez we did well offloading this version of Dan. Always a Blood. Good luck to Dan, no luck to Saints.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Another victim imo of our alleged former fitness staff.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Another victim imo of our alleged former fitness staff.

Rubbish.

He was a victim of the "brave" Easton Wood.

I'd love to see Hanners return to the club in a non-playing capacity when his on-field career is over. He gave everything for the Swans.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Rubbish.

He was a victim of the "brave" Easton Wood.

I'd love to see Hanners return to the club in a non-playing capacity when his on-field career is over. He gave everything for the Swans.

Not just Wood.

A favourite of pretty much all Bloods fans

 

[bedford]

Rubbish.

He was a victim of the "brave" Easton Wood.

I'd love to see Hanners return to the club in a non-playing capacity when his on-field career is over. He gave everything for the Swans.

He won't ever move from Melbourne

 

[Punts]

Rubbish.

He was a victim of the "brave" Easton Wood.

I'd love to see Hanners return to the club in a non-playing capacity when his on-field career is over. He gave everything for the Swans.

Wood had nothing to do with op probably the worst injury ya can get

All he did was a slight pcl

 

[caesar88]

Another victim imo of our alleged former fitness staff.

I gotta say I agree on this one. I remember thinking throughout 2017, there is no way he is fit, even one week off here and there would do him good. But the general consensus seemed to be that because he was a champion and a hard nut that he'd be able to play with niggles. Well a year on and it's safe to say his body was rooted. So it really is worth asking if we went about it the right way. 38 matches in two years while unfit, and then 15 games in the three years after probably suggests we didn't.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I gotta say I agree on this one. I remember thinking throughout 2017, there is no way he is fit, even one week off here and there would do him good. But the general consensus seemed to be that because he was a champion and a hard nut that he'd be able to play with niggles. Well a year on and it's safe to say his body was rooted. So it really is worth asking if we went about it the right way. 38 matches in two years while unfit, and then 15 games in the three years after probably suggests we didn't.

I still prefer to blame Easton Wood.

Its cathartic.

 

[bedford]

Jed Lamb

Jed Lamb

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.8

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.2

3star

another club , he's must be a s bloke , off to Warragul and Jack Maibum has also signed there , but still at Coburg

 

[dosser]

Jed Lamb another club , he's must be a s bloke , off to Warragul and Jack Maibum has also signed there , but still at Coburg

VFL players have to also have a 'home' club to play at if they are not selected. My own club had 5 VFL players on our list last year but we only saw four of them playing intermittently during the season. Maibaum may have registered at Warragul but may never play a game there.

 

[bedford]

VFL players have to also have a 'home' club to play at if they are not selected. My own club had 5 VFL players on our list last year but we only saw four of them playing intermittently during the season. Maibaum may have registered at Warragul but may never play a game there.

I said he's still at Coburg and he was CHB in the TOTY. It was more Lamb and i commented that Jack had signed there . In my opinion we should have rookied him

 

[dosser]

I said he's still at Coburg and he was CHB in the TOTY. It was more Lamb and i commented that Jack had signed there . In my opinion we should have rookied him

I agree, I also suspect that Lamb may play out his days at suburban clubs.

 

[Ticky009]

Vale Bernie Jeffrey

The Sydney Swans are saddened by the passing of former player Bernie Jeffrey, who has died at the age of 88.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

 

[hairy biker]

Former Swan reveals how knee infection nearly took over his whole body

"They rushed me to hospital because it was the angriest it had ever looked. my knee was the size of a footy."

www.zerohanger.com

Outlines primarily the physical battles Alex Johnson

Alex Johnson

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

111.5

2star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

went through.
If anything I'd imagine the constant setbacks would have made the mental struggles an even bigger issue.

Unbelievably hard luck story, but also one of determination and fortitude and at least, hopefully it gives him some pride and happiness he'll always be a Swans premiership player.

He's currently the owner of Infinite Cycle, an indoor Cycling Studio in Melbourne.

This is the podcast on which the article is based;

 

[bedford]

Former Swan reveals how knee infection nearly took over his whole body

"They rushed me to hospital because it was the angriest it had ever looked. my knee was the size of a footy."

www.zerohanger.com

Outlines primarily the physical battles Alex Johnson went through.
If anything I'd imagine the constant setbacks would have made the mental struggles an even bigger issue.

Unbelievably hard luck story, but also one of determination and fortitude and at least, hopefully it gives him some pride and happiness he'll always be a Swans premiership player.

He's currently the owner of Infinite Cycle, an indoor Cycling Studio in Melbourne.

This is the podcast on which the article is based;

One of the great blokes and would have been a co captain