Resource The Official SFA Match Simulation Process + General Sim Queries Thread

[Braklet]

Tiger Bob Tonga Bob there is a form component in the sim for each player and therefore each team based on that simmers' sim.

But as Clarkey and Mobbs said a run like that is unusual but not impossible. But one thing to note. Each season the simmers purge their sim and have to re-create the league and each team for the new season. Everything starts fresh.

Would a process of purging every form after every round affect the odds in any way, do you think? Has anybody tried this?

I realize that's extra work for the simmers, I'm just throwing it out there for S&G.

I simmed a single game myself (so obviously everyone should respect my ex-spurt-eez) and the team entry stuff was the biggest PITA. However, Mobbs provided a handy-dandy way of mass import via file, so that hassle could be mitigated.

At this point, I'm enjoying Tonga Bob's fist-flailing at the dark, nearly as much as GWS Goose's All-SFA appeals, so I secretly hope nothing changes.

 

[Dingster]

Would a process of purging every form after every round affect the odds in any way, do you think? Has anybody tried this?

I realize that's extra work for the simmers, I'm just throwing it out there for S&G.

I simmed a single game myself (so obviously everyone should respect my ex-spurt-eez) and the team entry stuff was the biggest PITA. However, Mobbs provided a handy-dandy way of mass import via file, so that hassle could be mitigated.

At this point, I'm enjoying Tonga Bob's fist-flailing at the dark, nearly as much as GWS Goose's All-SFA appeals, so I secretly hope nothing changes.

Form is part of the game imo and adds to the realism.

Post season some time ago I simmed the same two teams a number of times and got some different results. That element of 50/50 is still there on any given match.

 

[TRUMAN#1]

Tiger Bob Tonga Bob there is a form component in the sim for each player and therefore each team based on that simmers' sim. For example the form of my simmed games will be different to that of serial_thrilla and MWPP. That could partially explain a run of form during a season. Hence you often see a team that gets on a roll late in the season goes all the way. A team that starts well (Wazzas of the past come to mind) start well but lose form. Even individually it can happen. I started this season on fire at CHF and was BSing Carey comparisons. Then I got interchanged one game and it turned against me. The sim can be a fickle mistress!

But as Clarkey and Mobbs said a run like that is unusual but not impossible. But one thing to note. Each season the simmers purge their sim and have to re-create the league and each team for the new season. Everything starts fresh.

I knew it.

The Sim just leant to hate me from scratch every season.

 

[TRUMAN#1]

That is a very random set of results.

Nearly as improbable as playing in the rain at both The Underground Stadium and Abdu Prison, yet we did both in one season.

Random

Rain and Muddy conditions should be turned off.

never used again.

 

[Mobbs]

Rain and Muddy conditions should be turned off.

never used again.

Warm conditions also slow the transaction rate.

 

[Wosh]

Rain and Muddy conditions should be turned off.

never used again.

Why? The Bears have had 8 rainy or muddy games this season and are on top. The weather is part of the fun and charm of the sim.

 

[Gralin]

Form is part of the game imo and adds to the realism.

Post season some time ago I simmed the same two teams a number of times and got some different results. That element of 50/50 is still there on any given match.

you look at the top 10 games holders and their win% is between 47-53

bombers have a 48% win rate but 6 premierships

its all massive combinations of luck

gumbies won 70% of their matches in season 36 to win the flag

dragons won 63% last year

oobs were 65 and 68%

OOBs are a great example of getting lucky

no really bad seasons yet, 2 flags, but also only a 53% win rate overall

 

[TRUMAN#1]

Why? The Bears have had 8 rainy or muddy games this season and are on top. The weather is part of the fun and charm of the sim.

It's more about it effecting the awards at the end of the season.

less stats means less chance for those cruelled by a lot more wet or muddy games to be in the mix, even when they had a blinder of a season.

just my opinion of course.

 

[Wosh]

It's more about it effecting the awards at the end of the season.

less stats means less chance for those cruelled by a lot more wet or muddy games to be in the mix, even when they had a blinder of a season.

just my opinion of course.

It’s all part of the game, the quirks and luck.
But that’s just my opinion too.

 

[Wosh]

you look at the top 10 games holders and their win% is between 47-53

bombers have a 48% win rate but 6 premierships

its all massive combinations of luck

gumbies won 70% of their matches in season 36 to win the flag

dragons won 63% last year

oobs were 65 and 68%

OOBs are a great example of getting lucky

no really bad seasons yet, 2 flags, but also only a 53% win rate overall

This is great, Gra.

 

[Gralin]

It's more about it effecting the awards at the end of the season.

less stats means less chance for those cruelled by a lot more wet or muddy games to be in the mix, even when they had a blinder of a season.

just my opinion of course.

its all luck though

we're all in the same boat there

the reigning mobbs medalist can't seem to get a full game on ball this season and the Demons can't buy a win

last year we had the first and second place in the medal, the minor premiership and then went 1-2 in finals and didn't even make the GF

 

[Gralin]

This is great, Gra.

 

[Wosh]

its all luck though
we're all in the same boat there
the reigning mobbs medalist can't seem to get a full game on ball this season and the Demons can't buy a win

last year we had the first and second place in the medal, the minor premiership and then went 1-2 in finals and didn't even make the GF

 

[Millky95]

Why?

The Bears have had 8 rainy or muddy games this season and are on top

Answered your own question there. People fear us.

Until finals, then we are easy pickings.

 

[Wosh]

If we start removing or adding aspects of the sim to facilitate personal awards or premierships or stats we may as well shut the place down.
It’s all just fun and luck.

The old saying winners are grinners and the rest can please themselves is truth.

 

[Cadsky]

you look at the top 10 games holders and their win% is between 47-53

bombers have a 48% win rate but 6 premierships

its all massive combinations of luck

gumbies won 70% of their matches in season 36 to win the flag

dragons won 63% last year

oobs were 65 and 68%

OOBs are a great example of getting lucky

no really bad seasons yet, 2 flags, but also only a 53% win rate overall

Yes and I was kicking myself when I simmed that second flag

 

[Millky95]

Yes and I was kicking myself when I simmed that second flag

I have simmed a Bombers flag before

The shame never washes off you

 

[Wosh]

Answered your own question there. People fear us.

Until finals, then we are easy pickings.

See you in the GF.


In 20 seasons

 

[Millky95]

See you in the GF.


In 20 seasons

Maybe in the SPAM FL when we both get dropped for being too old

 

[Wosh]

Maybe in the SPAM FL when we both get dropped for being too old

I’m in my SFA prime actually, never been more invested.
SPAM FL is for washed up hacks like Kennedy Parker

 

[TRUMAN#1]

the reigning mobbs medalist can't seem to get a full game on ball this season and the Demons can't buy a win

last year we had the first and second place in the medal, the minor premiership and then went 1-2 in finals and didn't even make the GF

How did I not know.

I would have been a lot more excited by that fact if I knew.

 

[Wosh]

How did I not know.

I would have been a lot more excited by that fact if I knew.

We sacrifice so that everyone else can prosper. We’re practically the Baby Jebus of the SFA.

 

[TRUMAN#1]

I understand the luck of it all stuff and it sounds great.

But I still have an issue with an Award (All Sweet FA) not wholly being picked by the SIM or program, that is picked by posters.

Either Committee/LG's. Does every committee member truly leave it all up to their LG's

When they look at the stats, they are the ones who need to take the weather into account whilst looking at the Stats, before picking their mates to pad their Hall of Fame resumes.


The effect of Weather needs to be discussed by those choosing if the awards were to be fair.

 

[Gralin]

I understand the luck of it all stuff and it sounds great.

But I still have an issue with an Award (All Sweet FA) not wholly being picked by the SIM or program, that is picked by posters.

Either Committee/LG's. Does every committee member truly leave it all up to their LG's

When they look at the stats, they are the ones who need to take the weather into account whilst looking at the Stats, before picking their mates to pad their Hall of Fame resumes.


The effect of Weather needs to be discussed by those choosing if the awards were to be fair.

now you're not talking about the sim at all though

 

[TRUMAN#1]

now you're not talking about the sim at all though

Yeah I guess you are right, if turning the wet and muddy conditions off isn't an option.