The on topic thread 4.0

[chef]

 

[RPCB]

Oh deary me.

Only captains can approach the referee needs to happen.

10 minute sin-bins? C’mon.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Almost there. It is not embarrassing to copy rugby union on this one issue. Just do it.

 

[Jatz]

Yep, I'm all for that. Will cut it out quick smart.

 

[RossFC]

I’d rather it be a yellow card and a fine.

 

[Jatz]

I’d rather it be a yellow card and a fine.

What good does a fine do? It'll be less than pocket change for most of these guys.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Oh deary me.

Only captains can approach the referee needs to happen.

10 minute sin-bins? C’mon.

I think we've already seen an improvement in behaviour where just the captain is allowed to talk to the ref.

What are the pros and cons of sin bins over yellow cards?

 

[SM]

I think we've already seen an improvement in behaviour where just the captain is allowed to talk to the ref.

What are the pros and cons of sin bins over yellow cards?

A sin bin is a far stronger incentive to follow the rule.

 

[Zidane98]

A sin bin is a far stronger incentive to follow the rule.

It works well. We have this rule in the veterans league I play in. In our league you can interchange the guy sinbinned and the referee will let the team know when he can be interchanged back on.

 

[Frank Bunn]

A sin bin is a far stronger incentive to follow the rule.

Not really pros and cons.

Are you talking about getting rid of all yellow cards in favour of sin bins, or just for dissent?

 

[SM]

Not really pros and cons.

Are you talking about getting rid of all yellow cards in favour of sin bins, or just for dissent?

It was a pro. Can't really think of any cons.

The discussion is about dissent isn't it?

 

[Jatz]

It works well. We have this rule in the veterans league I play in. In our league you can interchange the guy sinbinned and the referee will let the team know when he can be interchanged back on.

I don't even like that really. It's not a big punishment if they just get replaced for 10 mins before coming back on anyway.

 

[Zidane98]

I don't even like that really. It's not a big punishment if they just get replaced for 10 mins before coming back on anyway.

It's designed to get guys who are fired up to calm down before they do something silly. We have interchange in our veterans league hence you're allowed to interchange the sinbinned guy for 10 mins.


In the professional game I imagine the choice would be either:

- sinbinned player goes off for 10 minutes. Can resume 10 minutes later.

or

- make an immediate substitution.

 

[Jatz]

It's designed to get guys who are fired up to calm down before they do something silly. We have interchange in our veterans league hence you're allowed to interchange the sinbinned guy for 10 mins.


In the professional game I imagine the choice would be either:

- sinbinned player goes off for 10 minutes. Can resume 10 minutes later.

or

- make an immediate substitution.

Has to be the sin binned player goes off for 10 mins. No substitution. Otherwise it defeats the purpose.

As for the 'before they do something silly' - if they've already shown dissent to a referee, they've done something silly.

 

[Zidane98]

Has to be the sin binned player goes off for 10 mins. No substitution. Otherwise it defeats the purpose.

As for the 'before they do something silly' - if they've already shown dissent to a referee, they've done something silly.

Yes, definitely. My mistake, I left out that if a team wants a sinbinned player to resume they'll have to play with 10 until that happens.

 

[moomba]

Until the refs learn to apply the rule consistently we shouldn't have sin bins imo.

 

[Planet14]

Until the refs learn to apply the rule consistently we shouldn't have sin bins imo.

That's the worry. If the rule is the captain only can approach, in one game four blokes get sin-binned, while is a game happening concurrently the ref will be accosted like the second coming of Keane, Neville, Scholes Irwin and May without punishment.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Prefer a yellow …sin bin would just mean 10 man team goes defensive which will be worse than a guy being cautious on a yellow.

 

[Jatz]

Prefer a yellow …sin bin would just mean 10 man team goes defensive which will be worse than a guy being cautious on a yellow.

That is absolutely the whole point.

The punishment needs to be severe enough that we essentially eradicate this behaviour.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

That is absolutely the whole point.

The punishment needs to be severe enough that we essentially eradicate this behaviour.

Nah I’m talking about more defensive football with sun bin. Rather have a player sit on a yellow

 

[Jatz]

Nah I’m talking about more defensive football with sun bin. Rather have a player sit on a yellow

As I said, that's the whole point. If they lose a player, that's the deterrent. If they are forced to play defensively, they won't yell abuse at the referee.

 

[Planet14]

sun bin.

I believe that is what they call it in New Zealand.

 

[SM]

Sounds like we had a behind closed doors friendly with Man Utd overnight, Antony and Van De Beek and others played out a 1-1 draw. Pretty impressive result against such a good side, so props to United for managing it.

 

[chef]

Lol.

 

[RPCB]

Lol.

Oh wow.