The on topic thread

[typeclub]

Any time TC posts can it be gone altogether? Sounded like a broken record of late.

Give me 50 bucks and I'll stop using it.

 

[moomba]

For me you can look at "the Spurs way" in isolation.

They've bucked a few trends in recent years. First is that you have to spend to improve. Second is that the team that pays the highest wages generally does better. Fair play to them, their last few years has been very good.

How sustainable that approach is is a big question mark, and when the day comes that they have to replace the productivity of a Kane or Alli will they be able to do so? They could strike it lucky again with a gem from the academy, or a cheap lower league signing coming good. But it's high risk.

Or you could sell your stars to fund your next lot of stars. Something that doesn't come easy to Levy.

Personally I think it's an approach that won't work long term. And it won't lift Spurs to the status of challenger. Not a criticism of them btw.

Maybe the stadium might change things. Or that dirty NFL money.

 

[go you pups]

chef anytime tc posts the word austerity, can it automatically be changed to something else?

Why would you take austerity away from me?

Nah, would have to be site wide. And i wouldnt want to take his new favourite word from him anyway.

What do you reckon Chief

 

[FAITH]

Why would you take austerity away from me?

Fair enough, with Real being shit nowadays you deserve austerity.

 

[Established1870]

For me you can look at "the Spurs way" in isolation.

They've bucked a few trends in recent years. First is that you have to spend to improve. Second is that the team that pays the highest wages generally does better. Fair play to them, their last few years has been very good.

How sustainable that approach is is a big question mark, and when the day comes that they have to replace the productivity of a Kane or Alli will they be able to do so? They could strike it lucky again with a gem from the academy, or a cheap lower league signing coming good. But it's high risk.

Or you could sell your stars to fund your next lot of stars. Something that doesn't come easy to Levy.

Personally I think it's an approach that won't work long term. And it won't lift Spurs to the status of challenger. Not a criticism of them btw.

Maybe the stadium might change things. Or that dirty NFL money.

Atletico, Dortmund and Sevilla and to a lesser extent Monaco, Lyon and Roma have all followed the Spurs model years before Spurs were doing it and most of those clubs have had a shit load more success with it then Spurs. What most of them have in common is a manager who stayed for years developing players, selling them and repeating the cycle. It will hurt Tottenham a hell of a lot more losing Poch then Alli or Kane.

 

[Zidane98]

Atletico, Dortmund and Sevilla and to a lesser extent Monaco, Lyon and Roma have all followed the Spurs model years before Spurs were doing it and most of those clubs have had a shit load more success with it then Spurs. What most of them have in common is a manager who stayed for years developing players, selling them and repeating the cycle. It will hurt Tottenham a hell of a lot more losing Poch then Alli or Kane.

Kane is an absolute must hold on to player for them. If he were to go any replacement would be far inferior and I could see Spurs regress significantly. Alli is getting to that level; the rest of the squad is replaceable IMO.

 

[Established1870]

Kane is an absolute must hold on to player for them. If he were to go any replacement would be far inferior and I could see Spurs regress significantly. Alli is getting to that level; the rest of the squad is replaceable IMO.

Aguero, Falcao and Diego Costa were all meant to be irreplaceable. Lewandowski was meant to be irreplaceable. Carlos Bacca and Kevin Gameiro were meant to be irreplaceable. None of them were. I think for Spurs it'd be a massive blow if they lost Kane but if they lost Poch then it could spell the end of their time in the UCL.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Well this is original. Kane leaving...
See you all next month for part 10 of this developing story.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

It’ll be interesting to see what happens at Spurs in the next few years, they’re a very good side but if they continue to win nothing it’ll really test the likes of Kane, Ali and Erickson, and if Poch moves on for a better job (Madrid) I could see that as the start of a fall.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Kane leaving (which he won’t anyway) wouldn’t be such a bad thing. Alli & Son would naturally score more and of course we’d have £200m to find a replacement. We’ve got too much talent all over the park to be derailed by the loss of one player.

 

[moomba]

Kane leaving (which he won’t anyway) wouldn’t be such a bad thing. Alli & Son would naturally score more and of course we’d have £200m to find a replacement. We’ve got too much talent all over the park to be derailed by the loss of one player.

It's.the big dilemma for you. Ideally you'd.keep him at.the club for life, bit at some point you'll have to look at selling to fund his replacement.

The timing of that is a tough one. Too early and you miss chunks of his career. Too late and he's not worth as much.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It's.the big dilemma for you. Ideally you'd.keep him at.the club for life, bit at some point you'll have to look at selling to fund his replacement.

The timing of that is a tough one. Too early and you miss chunks of his career. Too late and he's not worth as much.

Nonsense. We don't have to look at doing anything.
He'll only leave if he agitates to near the end of a contract.

Needing to merely to "fund his replacement" is utter bollocks.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Yeah I don’t get the “selling to fund a replacement” comment either. We wouldn’t need a replacement if we wasn’t thinking of selling him.

 

[moomba]

He's not going to play forever. Not saying it's a short term thing, just that at some stage he won't be in your team and you'll have to make a decision about whether the funds you can get from selling him will are needed to get a similar quality replacement.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

He's not going to play forever. Not saying it's a short term thing, just that at some stage he won't be in your team and you'll have to make a decision about whether the funds you can get from selling him will are needed to get a similar quality replacement.

But that’s the same decision for every top player at every club - it’s not a new thing. If Messi never leaves Barca would you think they were mugs for not selling him at some point? Not comparing Kane with Messi but you understand the point.

 

[moomba]

Other clubs aren't operating on a break even strategy though.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Other clubs aren't operating on a break even strategy though.

So you don’t think paying for a £1 billion stadium has nothing to do with our prudent approach to the transfer market? And how many clubs outside of your own can afford to operate at unsustainable levels anyway?

 

[moomba]

It may change with the stadium. Who knows? But then we're talking about "the Spurs Way" being a totally different philosophy in a few years time.

 

[Zidane98]

History has shown that new stadiums generally don't provide short term success. They tie up capital and teams take time settling in. Maybe Spurs may buck the trend.
A new stadium is a long term investment that may not reap rewards for years to come. Arsenal have only been able to loosen the purse strings from 2013 onwards after moving to ES in 2006 and are now killing it on matchday revenue. It took 5 years of astute management by Wenger to continually turn a profit in the transfer market while consistently making the top 4.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Spurs have got about 7 years to go before needing to think about funding a replacement for Kane. UCL should fubd it anyway.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

History has shown that new stadiums generally don't provide short term success. They tie up capital and teams take time settling in. Maybe Spurs may buck the trend.
A new stadium is a long term investment that may not reap rewards for years to come. Arsenal have only been able to loosen the purse strings from 2013 onwards after moving to ES in 2006 and are now killing it on matchday revenue. It took 5 years of astute management by Wenger to continually turn a profit in the transfer market while consistently making the top 4.

And 12 years if ripping off their fans.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

It may change with the stadium. Who knows? But then we're talking about "the Spurs Way" being a totally different philosophy in a few years time.

There’s no “Spurs way”. We just can’t throw big wads at players like some so we have to be more prudent. This is not unique to Spurs but the stars have aligned for us on this ocassion and we’ve ended up with a great team and manager. We will still be around the sixth biggest spenders in the league in a few years time unless of course ENIC sell the club.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

History has shown that new stadiums generally don't provide short term success. They tie up capital and teams take time settling in. Maybe Spurs may buck the trend.
A new stadium is a long term investment that may not reap rewards for years to come. Arsenal have only been able to loosen the purse strings from 2013 onwards after moving to ES in 2006 and are now killing it on matchday revenue. It took 5 years of astute management by Wenger to continually turn a profit in the transfer market while consistently making the top 4.

We couldn’t continue playing at the old white hart lane. When you are trying to attract players one of the first things they will look at it is your ground and the training facilities. In this day and age you need state of the art in both. It brings your club to the next level.

 

[go you pups]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/42937089?__twitter_impression=true

Unlucky Swansea, hope this isn't a hammerblow moment for them and right after the transfer window ended too

Fer and Bony out for the season, Fer snapped his achilles and Bony did an ACL in yesterday's draw at Leicester.

 

[chef]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/42937089?__twitter_impression=true

Unlucky Swansea, hope this isn't a hammerblow moment for them and right after the transfer window ended too

Fer and Bony out for the season, Fer snapped his achilles and Bony did an ACL in yesterday's draw at Leicester.

Time to step up Tammy.