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[phantom13]

I love this sort of stuff.

So lets say the bouncer hits Bairstow in the head, richoches directly to Carey, Bairstow has dropped to the ground just outside of the crease - what should Carey do?

What should Cumins do?

What would you do ?

I’m stumping him then lobbing the ball at his unconscious body while standing over him Ali on Foreman style.

 

[George]

*, my brother in law used to send me 5 every Monday and say “pick which one is a catch” I’d almost never get it right.

I think the "surviving the ground" rule would work wonders here.

 

[Mowman]

I love this sort of stuff.

So lets say the bouncer hits Bairstow in the head, richoches directly to Carey, Bairstow has dropped to the ground just outside of the crease - what should Carey do?

What should Cumins do?

What would you do ?

Oh please

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Walkley award winning journalism right here:

Awkward moment fill-in AFL 360 host Kate Loughlan squirms on camera

Fox Footy host Kath Loughnan has squirmed through a temporary hosting gig alongside Melbourne footy writer Mark 'Robbo' Robinson in a cringeworthy hour of television.

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That entire article exists to shit stir the Kath-Nick rumours.

Could not think of a worse trade to be in than Journalism.

 

[CursingFijian]

I’m not having a go at you, I don’t agree with you but I understand your point.

Fwiw I actually don’t think it’s a ridiculous suggestion. Some stumpings are a lapse in concentration from the batter that is exploited by the keeper. This one is no different. Plus you did say Bairstow wasn’t trying to pinch a run or gain an advantage, neither is someone who toppled over or doesn’t ground their bat.

I don't feel like you're having a go at me.

I think your position is valid, and you are welcome to it.

 

[George]

Oh please

Should've stumped Phil Hughes, the comparisons are definitely relevant.

 

[Verdun]

Yeh look I second this. I don’t agree with you CF but I respect your position and conviction.

Same

 

[BigPowerForward]

 

[Sun Ra]

That entire article exists to s**t stir the Kath-Nick rumours.

Could not think of a worse trade to be in than Journalism.

You notice the BF Robbo Thread quotes ?

 

[pebblesofsand]

Oh please

Why?

The scenario shows up the flaws in anyone arguing that the Laws of the Game take precedence.

So despite what anybody may say, its exactly the same situation.

The batsmen is out of his crease, the umpire has not declared the ball "dead", Carey throws down the stumps - clearly out under the Laws of the Game.

So the only question is about the personal ethics of the people involved.

Thats why my first post was about admiring Daniel Vettori (and Adam Gilchrist) more than Pat Cummins (and lets say Greg Chappell)

 

[phantom13]

Why?

The scenario shows up the flaws in anyone arguing that the Laws of the Game take precedence.

So despite what anybody may say, its exactly the same situation.

The batsmen is out of his crease, the umpire has not declared the ball "dead", Carey throws down the stumps - clearly out under the Laws of the Game.

So the only question is about the personal ethics of the people involved.

Thats why my first post was about admiring Daniel Vettori (and Adam Gilchrist) more than Pat Cummins (and lets say Greg Chappell)

Can probably argue there are similarities but arguing it’s “exactly” the same situation is stupid. A players welfare likely takes precedence over the stumping in that scenario, Bairstows welfare was never at risk, that’s just one difference.

 

[gringo2011]

So for clarity, i dont agree with your position on the spirit of the game thing but on the bolded, why is this your line? A batsman who gets clean bowled isnt trying to gain an advantage. A batsman who gets caught isnt. You dont only get out from trying to gain an advantage, you dont even only get out from trying to score. You get out when you contravene the laws or get dismissed within the laws. The spirit of the game stuff is wishy washy at best but the new angle youve got is so completely subjective it removes any sort of reasonable discussion.

I could argue he is trying to get an advantage by pushing the pace of the game along, or getting extra time to discuss with Stokes. I wouldnt because thats silly but its so completely subjective it just doesnt make any sense to me.

There are gentleman's rules when it suits them. Didn't they throw balls at the Aussie's heads back in Don Bradman's day because they were shit at cricket?

In the modern age that shit is irrelevant anyway. The Indians own cricket now and it's becoming a more professional sport without the soap dodgers in control.

 

[Sun Ra]

Why?

The scenario shows up the flaws in anyone arguing that the Laws of the Game take precedence.

So despite what anybody may say, its exactly the same situation.

The batsmen is out of his crease, the umpire has not declared the ball "dead", Carey throws down the stumps - clearly out under the Laws of the Game.

So the only question is about the personal ethics of the people involved.

Thats why my first post was about admiring Daniel Vettori (and Adam Gilchrist) more than Pat Cummins (and lets say Greg Chappell)

The Laws:

Either umpire shall call and signal Dead ball when

20.4.2.2 a possibly serious injury to a player or umpire occurs.

 

[pebblesofsand]

My turn for a story about learning about ethics in sport.

A long long time ago I was playing cricket in regional Victoria. I was about 15, playing in A Grade and my old man was the captain of the side.

Last game of the season and we needed to win to get into the finals. We weren't even close to winning but my old man realises that the opposition have been sending spare batsmen to an adjacent ground to field for their B Grade team who also needed to win to get into the finals but a lot of their players weren't available till later on because they were at a wedding.

The old man calls for a count, not even the umpires knew you had to have 6 players at the ground at all times.

Dad goes to his "coffin" and pulls out the rule book - game abandoned - we win.

Took me 10 years to tell him how happy I was that we got thrashed in the final next week.

 

[Sun Ra]

From The Chaser

Following court result, Ben Roberts-Smith declares moral bankruptcy

Streisand Effect enthusiast Ben Roberts-Smith was seen leaving a bankruptcy firm as he is reportedly facing tens of millions in legal fees following his defamation suit loss, with the war criminal now being made to declare his moral bankruptcy.

“Suing for defamation is always a risk,” said one legal expert, “especially if you can’t actually prove that it was wrong to say you murdered civilians. Murdering civilians, prisoners and stray dogs while drinking out of a prosthetic leg of a man you murdered while partying with your friend in a Klan hood tends to come at a pretty serious basic human ethics cost.”

“This outcome will come with a serious punishment of financial cost and everyone thinking you are a bloodthirsty maniac who threatens soldiers who are anti-war crime. With this loss he has essentially handcuffed his morals and bank account, kicked them off a cliff and shot them after they hit the ground.”

“While much of my analysis is based on what is known of course, this is quite an unprecedented case as it is extremely rare for a defamation case to go so badly that you potentially face both bankruptcy and the Hague.”

Reports suggest that early signs of his moral bankruptcy date back to when he was chosen to be a boss at 7 news.

 

[CursingFijian]

From The Chaser

Following court result, Ben Roberts-Smith declares moral bankruptcy

Streisand Effect enthusiast Ben Roberts-Smith was seen leaving a bankruptcy firm as he is reportedly facing tens of millions in legal fees following his defamation suit loss, with the war criminal now being made to declare his moral bankruptcy.

“Suing for defamation is always a risk,” said one legal expert, “especially if you can’t actually prove that it was wrong to say you murdered civilians. Murdering civilians, prisoners and stray dogs while drinking out of a prosthetic leg of a man you murdered while partying with your friend in a Klan hood tends to come at a pretty serious basic human ethics cost.”

“This outcome will come with a serious punishment of financial cost and everyone thinking you are a bloodthirsty maniac who threatens soldiers who are anti-war crime. With this loss he has essentially handcuffed his morals and bank account, kicked them off a cliff and shot them after they hit the ground.”

“While much of my analysis is based on what is known of course, this is quite an unprecedented case as it is extremely rare for a defamation case to go so badly that you potentially face both bankruptcy and the Hague.”

Reports suggest that early signs of his moral bankruptcy date back to when he was chosen to be a boss at 7 news.

Have you listened to the podcast about Eddie Gallagher called "THE LINE"? Great listen.

 

[StFly]

So the hoohar was about that pic of the catch because the balls touching the ground???


What's the problem?
Its not out, ball touches turf, play on

Problem is Marais is a nong, didn't question the catch at all, stated Starc was not in control of body when in fact, Starc was in control of body, hence the brace to stop forward momentum in a sliding motion with both hands. You know, as you normally do when you are sliding on a slippery surface on your knees and moving towards the ground with your face.

What he should have done is what you did, query the catch since he dragged the shit out of the ball on the ground in the process. But he didn't, because he's an idiotic seth afreecan.

 

[Mowman]

gringo2011 have you watched The Last Dance ?

 

[Dard Ball Get]

 

[Dard Ball Get]

 

[George]

gringo2011 have you watched The Last Dance ?

Might be the best sports doco ever. A great watch.

Also, I pick you as a Luc Longley type xo

 

[George]

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Had an old bloke in the gym this morning doing his workout with his trusty mask on

He even made the effort to walk from one side of the gym to the other to say good morning to me. Bunch of weird campaigners the lot of them.

 

[Mowman]

Might be the best sports doco ever. A great watch.

Also, I pick you as a Luc Longley type xo

Funny I thought of you when I seen Jerry Krause

It was a great Doco watched it over the last week

 

[jwikked]

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And they still have the nerve to ask for a tip

 

[George]

Funny I thought of you when I seen Jerry Krause

It was a great Doco watched it over the last week

LOL can't beat that, you are on fire lately

Yep seen it a couple times, wish we had players with that mentality