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Prior to the 1950's, home ownership in Australia was less than 50%. The great expansion to the outer suburbs is what fueled the massive increase in home ownership. In Adelaide that is to the north and south. You can still pick up houses out there for $250k. Adelaide's traffic ain't that bad. Unless you live on the opposite side of town to where you work, you may have to spend a max of 45 mins in traffic each way. Shit you can still get stand alone houses on 500 sq metres in the inner north west of Adelaide for under $350k. Ditto for places like Seaton, Queenstown, Rosewater, Pennington. These places are less than 10 kms or less from the city. FFS, not to many of our forebears, even the much derided baby boomers started off with 4 bedrooms, 2 baths on 700 squares in Rose Park.
 
Mia Freedman surprised that auctioning off an unpaid internship for $10k, for charity or otherwise, is receiving backlash.

I mean what better way to promote and support women than to exploit their labour?

Unpaid internships as a concept are absolutely horrendously ****ed.
 

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Prior to the 1950's, home ownership in Australia was less than 50%. The great expansion to the outer suburbs is what fueled the massive increase in home ownership. In Adelaide that is to the north and south. You can still pick up houses out there for $250k. Adelaide's traffic ain't that bad. Unless you live on the opposite side of town to where you work, you may have to spend a max of 45 mins in traffic each way. Shit you can still get stand alone houses on 500 sq metres in the inner north west of Adelaide for under $350k. Ditto for places like Seaton, Queenstown, Rosewater, Pennington. These places are less than 10 kms or less from the city. FFS, not to many of our forebears, even the much derided baby boomers started off with 4 bedrooms, 2 baths on 700 squares in Rose Park.

Takes me an hour and 10 minutes to get to work, and an hour and 10 to get back. Elizabeth Downs.

If it's by train, probably 45-50 minutes.
 
Unpaid internships as a concept are absolutely horrendously stuffed.
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This is truly terrifying.
 
Mia Freedman surprised that auctioning off an unpaid internship for $10k, for charity or otherwise, is receiving backlash.

I mean what better way to promote and support women than to exploit their labour?

La Freedman's from a pretty rarified North Shore bubble.

Fair play, she did the hard yards to become Cosmo editor at 24.

F@%king Jamie Packer...
 
Well, they haven't, otherwise Powerage would be better known as the best album, instead of the albums with more hit songs like BiB or H2H. Powerage had no big songs at all but is the strongest collection of music made in the Bon era.

When I can go to a jukebox and see Rock and Roll Singer next to TNT I'll agree with you.

Agree with Powerage. I have it in the car on an SD card for the times I just want uncomplicated rock
 
I had a 3 month unpaid work internship about a year ago. Basically the business owner had work that he was too busy to complete so it was passed onto me and branded as a 'unique learning opportunity', but in reality he was outsourcing work for free.

Working in an unpaid role when you're broke as it is doing work that isn't very interesting starves you of any motivation to stick with it, I did stick it out but the work (which was a big job) suffered. When I called him up to be my referee a month ago he flat out ignored my calls.

Don't do it unless the place is really interesting to you and your career.
 

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This is truly terrifying.

lol that job description, that's the role of someone on at least or over 50k.

Free labour tho.

When I did my Masters, I did two work placements for 12-14 weeks each. The uni paid me 840 dollars a fortnight for 20 hours of work per week, that's a pretty good wage. Though 90% of Uni degrees don't do this, my degree was a bit different in that you had to take an interview, have a certain GPA and write an extensive application. However the work placements are actually what attracted me to the degree rather than the content itself.

Helps to be backed by the Uni. The course manager even comes out to check on you and the work you are being assigned three times during the placement, and the work you do at the placement has to be presented to the Uni for grading - so it has to be fair work or they won't place students at the business.

I got a job offer after my first placement, which is a role I stayed in for almost 2 years before going to finish the rest of my masters and the last placement. I'm actually working 2 days a week at the first employer who allowed me to complete my final masters placement at the second employer 3 days a week.

I've now got a job offer from a client organisation that I worked with while in the capacity of the first job, a contract offer to go back full-time at the completion of my masters placement to the first employer AND an offer to work full-time at the place i'm currently on placement. I'm extremely spoiled - placements have their merits, but they have to be paid (at least a bit), have meaningful work and the person on placement must also have an advocate or backer such as the Uni.

Work experience on your own is awful, but sometimes it's the only option available to many, but it should be regulated.
 
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There was an unpaid internship going at the PAFC earlier this year in video production, totally woulda gone for it if I lived in Radelaide.
 
Just don't do it at all. People should get paid if they work. Everyone who agrees to work for "experience" perpetuates this absolutely criminal system.
Easy enough to say but it's the only way to get a foot in the door a lot of the time.

You're blaming the wrong people.
 
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http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-sa-pennington-120672269

This is typical of the area, even by the pics you can see there is a good 50/100 grand worth of work needing doing. Where do you suggest that money comes from?

This is also compounded by the FACT that to get a 350k mortgage as you suggest you will need a combined income of around 130k. The mean for under 35's is 65k.
 

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Easy enough to say but it's the only way to get a foot in the door a lot of the time.

But does it though? i did a fortnights work experience a few years ago (albeit paid) and all i got from it was the boss saying he didn't see enough of me working when i asked if i could use him as a reference.
 
There was an unpaid internship going at the PAFC earlier this year in video production, totally woulda gone for it if I lived in Radelaide.
They are now actually advertising that as a PAID position.
 
My mate finished his degree in IT and went and did work experience at JAG kitchens doing database and server maintenance. He was paid.

...in Woolworth's vouchers, just enough to cover his fuel costs.

He stayed on there for a good 6-8 months (lol) before the work ran out and they just let him go. lol @ letting a work experience person you paid on woolworths vouchers "go".
 
They are now actually advertising that as a PAID position.

Pay peanuts get monkey's, they probably got a few applicants and were like "lol these guys are shit." and decided they had better pay them something.
 
Pay peanuts get monkey's, they probably got a few applicants and were like "lol these guys are shit." and decided they had better pay them something.
To be fair, it's a pretty easy job in that type of industry. A few interviews and shots of 'the boys' training.
 
To be fair, it's a pretty easy job in that type of industry. A few interviews and shots of 'the boys' training.

Until you get the "LOL LIEK I WANNA TAKE PICS OF TEH BOIZ FOR INSTA, GUS IS SOOOOO HOT" person and go "No."
 
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