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Comparison made for the age of 31.

So, essentially what you're doing here is, in both the case of LeBron and the Warriors, is comparing the fully realised and concluded legacy of Michael Jordan (and the Lakers/Celtics) to guys who still have many years left to go, ie not a reasonable comparison.

How would MJ, stack up to say, Bill Russell, if you were evaluating his career in 1995 (or much earlier in the case of Curry)?

That's why I say you don't start the conversation until after LeBron is retired. Jordan's record isn't going anywhere - why feel the need to compare at this stage of LeBron's career? Is it so this generation can finally lay claim to seeing something that is actually better than what went before them? I don't get it. No one was saying Jordan could be the greatest ever until he retired the first time and people looked back at what he actually managed to do in his career. Then he came back and did it again to basically prove that if he'd been there the whole time he would have had eight championships in a row instead of two threepeats. He turned 31 in between them.

"Michael Jordan, I think, is the best to have ever played anything. If you were to draw a conparison, maybe you could pick Jimmy Brown, Babe Ruth...certainly Jack Nicklaus. But I'm not sure anyone took the game to the level that Jordan did." - Bobby Knight, after Jordan's first retirement. He then goes on to tell the story where Jordan had 19 points, 12 rebounds and 9 assists in 11 minutes of the 1984 Olympic gold medal match against Spain.
 
Bobby Knight's full of shit. Billy Mitchell. GOAT.

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My bad for seeing the start of The Project just to see all of those campaigners pulling the piss out or The Cavs players daring to show emotion after winning game 7.
 
anyone else having a good laugh at the #faketradie meme?

What a clever advertising campaign it is. Making it deliberately poor so that it goes viral and spreads the message of the ad across the nation, with social media idiots doing their job for them. I would have never have even heard about it if it wasn't for this board. Apparently the Libs are pleased that people are talking about it.

Peter Chen, senior lecturer in media and communications at the University of Sydney, said the ad "probably misses" its mark but did serve its purpose on negative gearing.

"If you're actually a tradesperson it's probably a bit patronising," he told Fairfax Media. "The strategists would say it's not necessarily aimed at tradespeople but people who are in that aspirational group."

Oh, and apparently the guy is a real tradesman, according to Liberal sources. I believe it - no actor could deliver lines that poorly.
 
That's why I say you don't start the conversation until after LeBron is retired. Jordan's record isn't going anywhere - why feel the need to compare at this stage of LeBron's career? Is it so this generation can finally lay claim to seeing something that is actually better than what went before them? I don't get it. No one was saying Jordan could be the greatest ever until he retired the first time and people looked back at what he actually managed to do in his career. Then he came back and did it again to basically prove that if he'd been there the whole time he would have had eight championships in a row instead of two threepeats. He turned 31 in between them.

It depends on which way the flow is streaming. In general, I think it is almost the case the LeBron has compared to Jordan as a means of downplaying his ability/achievements, rather than any movement from any reasonable basketball fans to portray LeBron as equal/greater than Jordan. In short, he's had to wear the unfavourable comparison his entire career, and he deserves credit for every step up the mountain. The last four games, against arguably the deepest perimeter defense of all time, is a monumental achievement, no matter which way you slice it.
 
It depends on which way the flow is streaming. In general, I think it is almost the case the LeBron has compared to Jordan as a means of downplaying his ability/achievements, rather than any movement from any reasonable basketball fans to portray LeBron as equal/greater than Jordan. In short, he's had to wear the unfavourable comparison his entire career, and he deserves credit for every step up the mountain. The last four games, against arguably the deepest perimeter defense of all time, is a monumental achievement, no matter which way you slice it.

Respectfully, he brought on the comparison the moment he decided that wearing 23 was a good idea at Cleveland :p
 

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