The Smiths - Why do people bother ???FMD!

[oxx]

Way over your head then.

the expected reply too.

Rather cliche for such a lover of fine art...

To assume the lyric is intelligent on a level which you exist alone, is mere stupidity.

Ahhhh...these are the Smith Fans I love.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

"A band/artist cannot really be considered quality if they don't make it big. On the otherhand, plenty of bands that do make it big aren't necessarily quality".

Smiths made it big. Real big. I'm sure Morrisey has a nicer house than you and I.

 

[bunsen burner]

I'm interested in your opinions on the Arctic Monkeys.

B Grade.

Personally neither like or dislike, but they are B Grade. So are Snow Patrol.

 

[deeman12]

B Grade.

Personally neither like or dislike, but they are B Grade. So are Snow Patrol.

Explain?

 

[bunsen burner]

Smiths made it big. Real big. I'm sure Morrisey has a nicer house than you and I.

No they didn't. And why are you comparing them to you and I? Compare them to their peers and you can't really call them big. They "made it", just not "big". As I've said numerous times: most people can't name a song or album or recognise a riff or melody. That speaks volumes.

 

[bunsen burner]

I love the Smiths.

I understand why some people dont get them - you need to have a certain minimum level of intellegence and an understanding of irony and black humour to understand where they're coming from

Sort of proves my point about Smiths fans being like Radiohead fans in that they think they listen to superior and "more intelligent" music.

Twat.

 

[Hot Spenny]

As I've said numerous times: most people can't name a song or album or recognise a riff or melody. That speaks volumes.

 

[bunsen burner]

You are in denial. Who are you trying to kid?

 

[Hot Spenny]

You are in denial. Who are you trying to kid?

your in denial by not replying to any of the other posters that have ripped into you over this.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

As I've said numerous times: most people can't name a song or album or recognise a riff or melody. That speaks volumes.

So recognition and singles sales, and "catchiness" is a sign of success?

A Flock of Seagulls has more merit than the Smiths?
Toni Basil has more merit than XTC?
Duran Duran has more merit than REM?
Billy Idol has more merit than the Buzzcocks?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Sort of proves my point about Smiths fans being like Radiohead fans in that they think they listen to superior and "more intelligent" music.

Twat.

That lame insult sort of proves my point about lack of intelligence.

 

[diesel and dust]

I think they're great....



Only criticism is that 'Panic' should have had a longer outro...should go on for another 30 seconds hang the DJ,hang the DJ,hang the DJ

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

No they didn't. And why are you comparing them to you and I? Compare them to their peers and you can't really call them big. They "made it", just not "big". As I've said numerous times: most people can't name a song or album or recognise a riff or melody. That speaks volumes.

They had 4 albums and all 4 either charted #1 or #2 in the charts.

For a band that was only around 5 years that's a pretty impressive strike rate.

Maybe they weren't as big in Australia, but they made it big in a market much larger than ours.


Just out of interest, who do you consider their peers?

 

[oxx]

your in denial by not replying to any of the other posters that have ripped into you over this.

dont pass the buck Vulture.

fight ur own battles smithy.

 

[oxx]

So recognition and singles sales, and "catchiness" is a sign of success?

A Flock of Seagulls has more merit than the Smiths?
Toni Basil has more merit than XTC?
Duran Duran has more merit than REM?
Billy Idol has more merit than the Buzzcocks?

lmao@ ur alternatives encompassing your love of mediocrity amongst music

 

[Hot Spenny]

dont pass the buck Vulture.

fight ur own battles smithy.

...what?!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

lmao@ ur alternatives encompassing your love of mediocrity amongst music

They were just examples from the same decade we were discussing.

Are hit singles a good measure of artistic credibility?

 

[oxx]

They were just examples from the same decade we were discussing.

Are hit singles a good measure of artistic credibility?

Clearly not alone,imo.

It depends what the "bulk" of the material is like per artist,per album.

If its a hit single with absolute garbage on the album then the answer is obvious.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

fight ur own battles smithy.

I'm well and truly capable of fighting my own battles.

Are you?

You haven't repsonded to anything in the thread with half an ounce of musical knowledge on the very band you started a thread about.

And you seem to avoid questions.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

If its a hit single with absolute garbage on the album then the answer is obvious.

What if the album has half a dozen hit singles, eg Spiceworld?

What if the album is a hit, despite no hit singles, eg The Queen Is Dead?
REM have had about ten quality albums and only a handful of hit singles.

Your arguments are flawed. To say you dont like the Smiths is fine - thats your taste - but to measure them by how "big" they apparently weren't (whatever that means and however you measure it), is simplistic. Success is often the complete opposite to musical integrity, because bands with a bit of individuality like the Smiths, polarise the regular punters who only care about top 40 pop musak.

 

[driver 8]

Just when you're sure you know who the stupidest bigfooty member is... 2 more come along and put their hands up

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Just when you're sure you know who the stupidest bigfooty member is... 2 more come along and put their hands up

Well done Stipey.

 

[oxx]

I'm well and truly capable of fighting my own battles.

Are you?

You haven't repsonded to anything in the thread with half an ounce of musical knowledge on the very band you started a thread about.

And you seem to avoid questions.

1- i wasn't refering to u moron.

2-I didn't respond to you because ur reputedly a shallow poster that isn't worth answering.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

1- i wasn't refering to u moron.

2-I didn't respond to you because ur reputedly a shallow poster that isn't worth answering.

And you have a serial drink driver as your avatar.

What's your point other than you know **** all about music?

 

[oxx]

What if the album has half a dozen hit singles, eg Spiceworld?

What if the album is a hit, despite no hit singles, eg The Queen Is Dead?
REM have had about ten quality albums and only a handful of hit singles.

Your arguments are flawed. To say you dont like the Smiths is fine - thats your taste - but to measure them by how "big" they apparently weren't (whatever that means and however you measure it), is simplistic. Success is often the complete opposite to musical integrity, because bands with a bit of individuality like the Smiths, polarise the regular punters who only care about top 40 pop musak.

It's not really my argument.
IDGAF really.
Was just trying to give you another perspective on what he was saying....but i should know u guys are all mensa stuff and would have already known.

The Smiths are ****en terrible.

I guess that makes me way less intelligent than any of you Smitsonians.