BlakeyNoFlakey
Brownlow Medallist
I think House of Cards is in this lofty company too. BB is still the best TV I've seen.
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You put Breaking Bad first so you probably do.I'd rank them
Breaking Bad
Sopranos
The Wire
Seems to be an unpopular opinion but the Wire is a pretty comfortable third. It wasn't terrible by any means, but I don't think it rates as one of the all time greats either, found it a bit slow moving. Maybe I just like things to be a bit flashier.
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Well you'd be wrong.Haven't watched The Wire, however I can't see a TV show ever being better than The Sopranos. The writing, the characters, the acting and the music is just amazing. It's like watching an oscar winning movie every episode.
This is the weirdest take on the show I have seen. Did you even watch it?You put Breaking Bad first so you probably do.
That was always a show with an aesthetic I didn't really dig. I prefer it more cinematic like the Sopranos or edgier and more real like the Wire (Oz is similarly shot and coloured). Breaking Bad was very Hollywood – lots of gloss, everything looked waxy and plastic, even things like the lack of swearing, it all came across as pretty second par. It is those small things, and the lack of the natural humour, that peg it down for me. I think it also lacked a social message, but it still had some very human and touching moments.
But yeah, Breaking Bad definitely the most easily engaging, which was its fault when it'll be looked back on.
He made some good points, it was a lot more in your face and than The Sopranos. Scenes like Gus Fring's death, Hank and Gomez's shootout and even the final scene, although fun and cool to watch, were incredibly Hollywood esque and would have looked at home in a Michael Bay movie.This is the weirdest take on the show I have seen. Did you even watch it?
I've watch Mad Men for the first time since posting in this thread a couple years ago & would have to include it with these 3, also is great TV.
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That's exactly my point, apart from probably Artie Bucco and Dr Melfi, there are no characters who are guilt free. Yet you still feel horrible to see someone like Bobby Bacala killed because the writing staff did an amazing job of humanizing career criminalsI never got the idea that the characters being bad people made the show bad. How many of The Sopranos are good people? Even Meadow is a preachy hypocrite with a painful hero complex. AJ is a lazy little s**t.
Really? He complains about it being hollywood and then says its not cinematic enough. Cinema is hollywood. How is it plastic? Did they use too many plastic props? I dont even understand how to interpret that comment. It was quite slow in parts, ie very anti hollywood and many of its characters had deep and very real flaws, which is again very anti hollywood. The sweeping landscape shots and little nuances was again very anti hollywood. You never see that stuff on regular tv or standard flicks.He made some good points, it was a lot more in your face and than The Sopranos. Scenes like Gus Fring's death, Hank and Gomez's shootout and even the final scene, although fun and cool to watch, were incredibly Hollywood esque and would have looked at home in a Michael Bay movie.
There was also the issue of the supporting cast, the acting was good however not many of the characters were at all likeable. Even Hank who was a moral and good person, was ruined by his mannerisms in the first season and a half. Jesse was a selfish hypocrite, Skyler was self righteous, Marie was incredibly obnoxious and Walt JR was just irritating. When your most relatable character is a drug manufacturer then the writing team has made some basic errors.
It seemed as though Breaking Bad was about turning a happy-go-lucky guy who everyone can relate to, into a monster. The Sopranos was about turning monster's (Mafioso) into character's we can relate to, a much harder job for a writing team.
This is the weirdest take on the show I have seen. Did you even watch it?
What? This is a very basic and odd take on film. Cinema equals Hollywood? Cinema is so hard to define but Hollywood is typically easily engaging, and when discussing a 2010s show you compare it to 2010s/2000s Hollywood which is glossy, shiny, HD, and easy to digest with whispering lines and bold proclamations in apparently normal people's dialogue.Really? He complains about it being hollywood and then says its not cinematic enough. Cinema is hollywood. How is it plastic? Did they use too many plastic props? I dont even understand how to interpret that comment. It was quite slow in parts, ie very anti hollywood and many of its characters had deep and very real flaws, which is again very anti hollywood. The sweeping landscape shots and little nuances was again very anti hollywood. You never see that stuff on regular tv or standard flicks.
The humour was awesome. One of the funniest dramas ever and not conventional humour either. The serious action moments were incredibly simple, unlike hollywood which overdoes the action to the extreme, but incredibly intense as the characters acted as if these were real life events.
The flaws of the show was that the plot was a little slow and you had to take some giant leaps of faith to not see plot holes. The characters relied on some very uncertain events for their plans to work. Although to be honest there arent much stories that dont. But to call it too hollywood was ridiculous. The gus fring death scene was 5 seconds out of the whole seven season series and wasnt repeated at any other point.