The Terrorism Files - 2015, 2016

[DemonTim]

The only dealings me and you have had was talking about Jesse Hogan's contract when you didnt understand how math works.

1. It's maths. We aren't living in your enemies nation state
2. Yes. It's always everyone else. That's why instead of providing evidence you abuse people
3. The amount you post would maybe signify that you need to be more eloquent.
4. Apparently you only read the first part of that and not the part about seeing other posts of yours. It didn't actually change the point made

 

[VineyIsLORD]

1. It's maths. We aren't living in your enemies nation state
2. Yes. It's always everyone else. That's why instead of providing evidence you abuse people
3. The amount you post would maybe signify that you need to be more eloquent.

1. You can't tell me what to do. You're not the boss of me.
2. I should probably stop engaging with legit morons.
3. See above.

 

[DemonTim]

1. You can't tell me what to do. You're not the boss of me.
2. I should probably stop engaging with legit morons.
3. See above.

And here is the perfect example of your posting. People like you are dangerous. Self reflection and development is a good thing. You don't happen to sit in the level 2 southern stand members do you?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

And here is the perfect example of your posting. People like you are dangerous. Self reflection and development is a good thing. You don't happen to sit in the level 2 southern stand members do you?

Classist.

Anyway what do you think about this latest bombing by PKK proxies?

 

[DemonTim]

Classist.

Anyway what do you think about this latest bombing by PKK proxies?

I was asking because your abuse sounds a lot like someone who sits in there...

What's there to think? Disgraceful attack regardless of who perpetrated it. No one was taking ownership last I heard. Won't get the media coverage it deserves however

 

[VineyIsLORD]

I was asking because your abuse sounds a lot like someone who sits in there...

What's there to think? Disgraceful attack regardless of who perpetrated it. No one was taking ownership last I heard. Won't get the media coverage it deserves however

PKK off shoot called tAK took credit.

Why is it disgraceful? Thousands of dead kurds at the hands of those same security forces. What is one busload of violent cops in comparison?

 

[DemonTim]

PKK off shoot called tAK took credit.

Why is it disgraceful? Thousands of dead kurds at the hands of those same security forces. What is one busload of violent cops in comparison?

Last I saw (was at the gym so was only subtitles) no one had.

Attacks in cities populated with civilians, especially attacks that will always feature collateral, are disgraceful. Regardless of which side of the cause you believe in, I can't see how you can say innocents should be injured/killed as a result.

Obviously this is being lead somewhere...so please continue

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Last I saw (was at the gym so was only subtitles) no one had.

Attacks in cities populated with civilians, especially attacks that will always feature collateral, are disgraceful. Regardless of which side of the cause you believe in, I can't see how you can say innocents should be injured/killed as a result.

Obviously this is being lead somewhere...so please continue

Nah, just trying to get the thread back on track and actually discuss terrorism.

Your opinion is a perfectly reasonable one. I just tend to think that nobody seems to care when the security forces and their proxies are bombing kurdish socialists holding peaceful rallies, and they have lost way more people than ethnic turks have in this conflict initiated by ethnic turks and their fascist leadership.

How many of your own people would need to die at the hands of an occupying government before you would endorse fighting back?

I guess what I'm saying is, at least they are targeting security and not civilians and I can easily understand why they have started bombing in retaliation. Turkey is a good example of what happens when a far right government decides to start a war against an ethnic minority for political gain. in fast forward, actually.

 

[DemonTim]

Nah, just trying to get the thread back on track and actually discuss terrorism.

Your opinion is a perfectly reasonable one. I just tend to think that nobody seems to care when the security forces and their proxies are bombing kurdish socialists holding peaceful rallies, and they have lost way more people than ethnic turks have in this conflict initiated by ethnic turks and their fascist leadership.

How many of your own people would need to die at the hands of an occupying government before you would endorse fighting back?

I guess what I'm saying is, at least they are targeting security and not civilians and I can easily understand why they have started bombing in retaliation.

I will never condone attacks that will have casualties not involved in the conflict. Body count is irrelevant in my opinion on that

 

[VineyIsLORD]

I will never condone attacks that will have casualties not involved in the conflict. Body count is irrelevant in my opinion on that

That is very idealistic but I'm not necessarily asking you to condone it. Just to put yourself in the shoes of the Kurds. It is just curious to me that so many people will condemn an attack like this as terrorism, but not the much more damaging ones that actually target civilians that this bombing is in response to.

 

[DemonTim]

That is very idealistic but I'm not necessarily asking you to condone it. Just to put yourself in the shoes of the Kurds. It is just curious to me that so many people will condemn an attack like this as terrorism, but not the much more damaging ones that actually target civilians that this bombing is in response to.

Both are terrorism.

 

[Total Power]

1. You can't tell me what to do. You're not the boss of me.
2. I should probably stop engaging with legit morons.
3. See above.

4. you should stop lying and making up facts
5. Once you do get busted be a man enough and admit that you have lied
6. Get a life and log off bigfooty once in a while.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Both are terrorism.

Yes. But one is by the state, en masse. The other is in response.

 

[Total Power]

2. Yes. It's always everyone else. That's why instead of providing evidence you abuse people

This is always the case, i asked him how wahabbism drastically spread in the 70s, and he went on to make up facts and then couldnt support his statement. Atleast i am man to admit when i am wrong. In all the threads its the same story, cant support an argument then start playing the man.

 

[DemonTim]

Yes. But one is by the state, en masse. The other is in response.

I'm not sure of the point you're making. Are you saying it's okay or less of a problem because it's reactive?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

I'm not sure of the point you're making. Are you saying it's okay or less of a problem because it's reactive?

No I just like discussing terrorism and seeing different opinions.

Would seem rather reactionary to say all terrorism or all violence is equal.

 

[The Edukator]

This is always the case, i asked him how wahabbism drastically spread in the 70s, and he went on to make up facts and then couldnt support his statement. Atleast i am man to admit when i am wrong. In all the threads its the same story, cant support an argument then start playing the man.

It's idiots like this that indirectly incite violence because words will never work.

 

[DemonTim]

No I just like discussing terrorism and seeing different opinions.

Would seem rather reactionary to say all terrorism or all violence is equal.

Well equal is going to be individual opinion.

 

[Total Power]

It's idiots like this that indirectly incite violence because words will never work.

I agree, radicalism on bigfooty. Seriously whats wrong with these people, cant even have a discussion with them without abuse

 

[Number37]

I've argued with him about that and he never argued that with me. He argued it was A reason, it was our most recent interaction before the last 10 pages of garbage

As I told him, I've dealt with/seen your postings in other threads. Your posting style is the same regardless of the topic/who you respond to.

TP pretends he is having a reasoned discussion but if you look at what he has written (over and over, in thread after thread) it is clear that he does no more than spew anti-Islam bile. If you discuss long enough with him he will soon show you his true colours. Or one of his mates like Crowsfan2004 will miraculously bob up.

 

[Number37]

Wahabbi as a term has become somewhat interchangeable with Salafism. I started using both terms but didnt want to confuse my audience.

But you are correct.

Wahhabi/Salafi = same thing = Sunni.
Both are an attempt to engineer a sect in Islam that does not exist. i.e. Lets call the Sunni Muslims that want to wage war Wahhabi or Salafi because they are supposedly different from the other Sunnis.

The Muslims waging war are not some sect that sprung up in response to ...they are no more than ordinary Muslims (mostly Sunni) that have decided to fight back against whoever and to the point of the thread...why is this so?

 

[DemonTim]

TP pretends he is having a reasoned discussion but if you look at what he has written (over and over, in thread after thread) it is clear that he does no more than spew anti-Islam bile. If you discuss long enough with him he will soon show you his true colours. Or one of his mates like Crowsfan2004 will miraculously bob up.

I've discussed with him a fair bit, and while he is anti-Islam at times he's hardly extreme about it. And I can't say I've legitimately suspected him of using aliases

The length that you two are going to, to bag out a person you've never met who you disagree with and abuse online is crazy.

 

[Total Power]

I've discussed with him a fair bit, and while he is anti-Islam at times he's hardly extreme about it. And I can't say I've legitimately suspected him of using aliases

The length that you two are going to, to bag out a person you've never met who you disagree with and abuse online is crazy.

I have never said i am not Anti-Islam, i think its a shit religion and it deserves the criticism it gets, i dont even know why they bother arguing this. I never denied it. But i dont appreciate people playing the man, look at viney, when i picked up on his lies he started abusing me. The same reason why i got n37 under block. So now i use aliases as well apparently lol didnt someone tell you that you are an alias too apparently?

 

[Number37]

I've discussed with him a fair bit, and while he is anti-Islam at times he's hardly extreme about it. And I can't say I've legitimately suspected him of using aliases

The length that you two are going to, to bag out a person you've never met who you disagree with and abuse online is crazy.

What lengths are you referring to?
You mean like point out his mistakes and bullshit?
Or point out his rabid anti-Islam bent?
Or take whatever he writes with a massive grain of salt because it invariably boils down to no more than anti-Islam bile?

Fancy an internet discussion forum discussing stuff...oh boy wowee, what will they think of next!

 

[Total Power]

So much anger lol must have touched a few nerves here lol