The Three Tigerteers

[Tiger_Stripes]

Look a couple years back at Moore, Thursfield and McGuane. Relatively young, although I belive Moore is 26? and looking a million bucks, they even did a news feature on them. How did we go from having three dead set defenders to all three looking shaky?

Moore:
Gotten hurt a bit this year but the most experienced of the three, whilst they haven't had a chance to play as a group together consistently this year, Moore has probably been the most consistent and dominated a few games back where neither of the other two were around. Looks the best of them IMO

McGuane aka McGuts
Courage is his game, the only problem is, he only plays a good one every second week. Why heck is that I wonder? Obviously rather hefty confidence issues, it seems that when Moore is in the team he is a different player. Agains the Weagles was taking huge marks and running and kicking confidently, contrast with a week earlier where every contest is a spoil and he fumbled through the game. No one questions his bravery but needs to get his head straight.

Thursfield:
The most enigmatic of the trio in that, to me, he seemed to have the brightest future, used to take big marks (anyone remember his screamer in the square?) and is an excellent spoiler. Ever since his injury he's been a different player and, this year, appears to be heavily out of favour. His workrate in games has also been subpar, was average in the Burgers game and made some pretty silly decisions.


Overall, they each seem to suffer from pretty hefty confidence issues, I don't think it's a lack of ability and they, especiallly Moore and McGuane, seem to trust each other implicitly. Hopefully we can straighten them out and they don't just end up as subpar trade bait.

 

[T4P]

Interesting. I also have thought the same, I had huge expectations on Thursfield before...
Will be watching this thread closely.

 

[happy_punter]

Moore is by far the best and his having his best year. Mcguane i agree is inconsistant and has a better game every second match. Thursfield specialises in spoiling, every time i check he seems to have no more than 5 posessions.

 

[Bojangles17]

I reckon Moore has quietly returned to the best footy we have seen him play...despite some rough edges with mcguts (i like that)..i reckon coaches would love the way he goes about it and with connors and Lids to share the pill with , I reckon he has a spot

thursty has some strengths in great spoiler with not much else...I have a feeling one of him or rance might be used for trade

 

[richoatthedisco]

If we are interested in Mitch Brown (meh) as rumoured, I could see a swap for Rance. If we can get a decent pick for Thursty or McGuane we should jump at it.

 

[santa claws]

Look a couple years back at Moore, Thursfield and McGuane. Relatively young, although I belive Moore is 26? and looking a million bucks, they even did a news feature on them. How did we go from having three dead set defenders to all three looking shaky?

Moore:
Gotten hurt a bit this year but the most experienced of the three, whilst they haven't had a chance to play as a group together consistently this year, Moore has probably been the most consistent and dominated a few games back where neither of the other two were around. Looks the best of them IMO

McGuane aka McGuts
Courage is his game, the only problem is, he only plays a good one every second week. Why heck is that I wonder? Obviously rather hefty confidence issues, it seems that when Moore is in the team he is a different player. Agains the Weagles was taking huge marks and running and kicking confidently, contrast with a week earlier where every contest is a spoil and he fumbled through the game. No one questions his bravery but needs to get his head straight.

Thursfield:
The most enigmatic of the trio in that, to me, he seemed to have the brightest future, used to take big marks (anyone remember his screamer in the square?) and is an excellent spoiler. Ever since his injury he's been a different player and, this year, appears to be heavily out of favour. His workrate in games has also been subpar, was average in the Burgers game and made some pretty silly decisions.


Overall, they each seem to suffer from pretty hefty confidence issues, I don't think it's a lack of ability and they, especiallly Moore and McGuane, seem to trust each other implicitly. Hopefully we can straighten them out and they don't just end up as subpar trade bait.

all you need do is look at strengths and weaknesses. one has all the atributes needed. one is just to deficient in to many areas for the modern game the other while sound just doesnt do enough.

if we are to seriously challenge for a REGULAR top 4 spot only one of these players can be a part of the future. the work that is needed to be done structurally in the back half has a long way to go.

its funny people think just because a player goes okay we dont need to upgrade on said player to get ultimately top 4 and hopefully a premiership.

we cannot ever win a premiership with mcguane moore and thursfiels as the structural keys to our backline.
they may serve a purpose for now but we had damn well better be looking for massive upgrades on at least two of them to even contemplate reasonable top 8 finishes..

 

[Dustin Credible]

all you need do is look at strengths and weaknesses. one has all the atributes needed. one is just to deficient in to many areas for the modern game the other while sound just doesnt do enough.

if we are to seriously challenge for a REGULAR top 4 spot only one of these players can be a part of the future. the work that is needed to be done structurally in the back half has a long way to go.

its funny people think just because a player goes okay we dont need to upgrade on said player to get ultimately top 4 and hopefully a premiership.

we cannot ever win a premiership with mcguane moore and thursfiels as the structural keys to our backline.
they may serve a purpose for now but we had damn well better be looking for massive upgrades on at least two of them to even contemplate reasonable top 8 finishes..

Which one? Moore?

 

[Bojangles17]

we cannot ever win a premiership with mcguane moore and thursfiels as the structural keys to our backline.
they may serve a purpose for now but we had damn well better be looking for massive upgrades on at least two of them to even contemplate reasonable top 8 finishes..

rather than take a simple minded micro look at the backline, take a holistic view with Newman, lids and connors thrown into the mix and now your looking at a more than handy Back half.

Taking your simple view I could say the Cats will never win a flag with Harry taylor, josh hunt and tom lonergan in defence...It's a team game my freind ya need the steel of someone like Mcguane that is then complemented by the silk of Lids...

 

[captain blood 17]

I think you'll see as our defensive structures improve, our rating of two of these defenders will be different. Moore and McGuane will fine, Thursty, not so sure about. The move of Delidio to defense has been a masterstroke. Therin lies the problem for Will.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Taking your simple view I could say the Cats will never win a flag with Harry taylor, josh hunt and tom lonergan in defence...It's a team game my freind ya need the steel of someone like Mcguane that is then complemented by the silk of Lids...

Bo, you on the herbal cigarettes again? Taylor would be the AA CHB and owned Riewoldt in last year's GF. Uses the ball beautifully and makes great decisions. Hunt is one of the best kicks in the league and Lonergan at least is 197cm and mobile.

 

[ize_]

Thursty is a good defender and McGuane is a good attacker, good overhead and very brave, whereas I think Moore has all these qualities. He's the best out of the three at the moment.

Post, Rance, Gourdis plus these three make for some good options in the back half. We'll get three good tall KPD out of them. I have no idea which three it will be though.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Thursty is a good defender and McGuane is a good attacker, good overhead and very brave, whereas I think Moore has all these qualities. He's the best out of the three at the moment.

Post, Rance, Gourdis plus these three make for some good options in the back half. We'll get three good tall KPD out of them. I have no idea which three it will be though.

These 6 plus Grimes plus another tall defender in the draft will be pretty good.

 

[coke_zero]

Post, Rance, Gourdis plus these three make for some good options in the back half. We'll get three good tall KPD out of them. I have no idea which three it will be though.

Post and Gourdis can also play forward, so that also gives us another 2 options to use in the forward half.

 

[Ralll]

Thursty seems to play better on small forwards these days.
Mcguane is gutsy but fumbles alot.
Moore plays a bit bigger and stronger and would be my pick atm.

I think bringing in a bigger KPB for FB (Goudis?) is the way to go. then Moore can take the 2nd tall, and have Newy/Lids/Conners running around down back to ensure the ball gets out efficiently.