The war against renewable energy

[CD Xbow]

I just saw this article saying the Algal bloom is affecting Adelaide beaches. Here is a dead dolphin taken at Grange beach.

'Heartbreaking' algal bloom hits metropolitan Adelaide beaches

Dolphins, sea lions, sharks, rays and fish have all been sighted washed up dead on Adelaide's beaches as the impact of the algal bloom continues to be felt across the state.

www.abc.net.au

We are starting to see the real cost for the war on renewable energy, for our tardiness in responding to global warming. This has been predicted for over forty years. The response crippled by lies & disinformation, spread by the likes of Murdoch, coal lobby and f*cking idiots like Gina.

This is your future boys and girls, dead seas, flooded cities and a collapsing biosphere. I'm old and won't see the worst of it but it makes me sad for my kids and future generations. Make sure you remember the folks who lied to you and told you global warming wasn't real.

 

[CD Xbow]

For folks who want to find out more about the bloom, I have found the most information here at the great Southern Reef foundation:

Still Blooming: Ongoing Marine Deaths from South Australia’s 2025 Harmful Algal Bloom | Great Southern Reef

Months into South Australia’s harmful algal bloom, mass marine deaths continue across the coast. From fish kills to seadragon wash-ups, discover the latest findings, satellite data, species impacts, and how communities are responding.

greatsouthernreef.com

It's so depressing. There is a public concern form you can sign and send to the pollies.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

VIC Labor SEC?

You're not using the latest incarnation of the SEC as some sort of evidence of ALP's success in providing a stable and reliable grid?

Kirner's ALP government started the privatisation by selling 51% of Loy Yang B. Kennet came in and finished the job. Since then, 1999, ALP has been in charge for 21 out of 25 years.

 

[nut]

You're not using the latest incarnation of the SEC as some sort of evidence of ALP's success in providing a stable and reliable grid?

Kirner's ALP government started the privatisation by selling 51% of Loy Yang B. Kennet came in and finished the job. Since then, 1999, ALP has been in charge for 21 out of 25 years.

Gee you love making unsubstantiated claims.
Renewables are stabilising the grid= fact.
The New SEC is driving state owned renewables= fact. Only 5% at the moment but will grow.
Are you going to back up your claim that Norway f**ed up its energy grid? Or just deflect to the next unsubstantiated claim with more rubbish?

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Gee you love making unsubstantiated claims.
Renewables are stabilising the grid= fact.
The New SEC is driving state owned renewables= fact. Only 5% at the moment but will grow.
Are you going to back up your claim that Norway f**ed up its energy grid? Or just deflect to the next unsubstantiated claim with more rubbish?

I said Norway ****ed up their electricity, not their grid. I said Germany ****ed up their grid - Dunkelflaute where expected renewables aren't enough when demand is high.

Norway aims to cut energy links with Europe due to soaring prices

“It’s an absolutely sh*t situation,” said Norway’s energy minister Terje Aasland cited by FT, reacting to electricity prices in the country that are six times that of the EU average these days.

www.euronews.com

Norway hit by new electricity shock - Norway's News in English — www.newsinenglish.no

Low alternative energy production and high demand for electricity in Europe were sending electricity rates in Norway to record-high levels this week. The sudden spike comes despite full reservoirs for hydro-electric production in Norway, and no winter cold snap. Consumers are unhappy, especially...

www.newsinenglish.no

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-02-03/why-norway-s-political-crisis-is-a-european-energy-problem

I can keep going if you want.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Renewables are stabilising the grid= fact.

Not quite right.

Hydro and batteries are stabilising the grid. Solar and wind aren't as they aren't synchronous. There is a scramble now to build synchronous condensers and grid forming batteries to provide stability before coal generators go offline. We'll need to keep coal going until mid 2030 just to provide the inertia to protect the stability of the grid.

 

[nut]

Not quite right.

Hydro and batteries are stabilising the grid. Solar and wind aren't as they aren't synchronous. There is a scramble now to build synchronous condensers and grid forming batteries to provide stability before coal generators go offline. We'll need to keep coal going until mid 2030 just to provide the inertia to protect the stability of the grid.

More dribble trying to sound like there isn’t a plan in place.
Storage has always been the key to renewables.
Hydro, Solar, wind and batteries = renewables and backed up with gas.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

More dribble trying to sound like there isn’t a plan in place.
Storage has always been the key to renewables.
Hydro, Solar, wind and batteries = renewables and backed up with gas.

Drivel. Batteries weren't a part of the picture when RTS commenced. The PW1 didn't roll off the production line until 2015. As for gas, if the "plan" was for gas backup, why is the energy minister now, in 2025, arguing that gas projects can't export everything. The government has no plan.

In addition, AEMO is still considering whether it needs to create a market for inertia. They don't have a clue what they're doing either.

 

[kranky al]

56K views · 1.2K reactions | The Liberals and Nationals love to talk our country down. We now have the highest penetration of rooftop solar in the world. | Chris Bowen MP

The Liberals and Nationals love to talk our country down. We now have the highest penetration of rooftop solar in the world..

www.facebook.com

Something to throw at the naysayers

 

[nut]

Drivel. Batteries weren't a part of the picture when RTS commenced. The PW1 didn't roll off the production line until 2015. As for gas, of the "plan" was for gas back, why is the energy minister now, in 2025, arguing that gas projects can't export everything. The government has no plan.

In addition, AEMO is still considering whether it needs to create a market for inertia. They don't have a clue what they're doing either.

The plan has changed significantly since 2009… it’s allowed to change.
The solution has never been clearer and the technology is advancing at record pace, thanks mainly to china.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

So since ESC Vic released their 4 one hundredths of a cent FIT, energy retailers in Vic are offering half a cent and 1 cent FITs

QLD and NSW both have higher FITs - both have more solar going into the grid too.

Another example of the Victorian government working to help make energy companies more profits.

How does ESC VIC say the FIT min is 0.04 of a cent whereas IPART in NSW sets it between 4.8 - 7.4 cents

 

[nut]

So since ESC Vic released their 4 one hundredths of a cent FIT, energy retailers in Vic are offering half a cent and 1 cent FITs

QLD and NSW both have higher FITs - both have more solar going into the grid too.

Another example of the Victorian government working to help make energy companies more profits.

How does ESC VIC say the FIT min is 0.04 of a cent whereas IPART in NSW sets it between 4.8 - 7.4 cents

VIC was the only state to mandate a FIT. VIC has much lower usage rates than NSW.

Solar is about self consumption and or storing your own.
If you have excess storage you can use export.

Here is my feed in tariff with Amber…

 

[Hornberger]

So since ESC Vic released their 4 one hundredths of a cent FIT, energy retailers in Vic are offering half a cent and 1 cent FITs

QLD and NSW both have higher FITs - both have more solar going into the grid too.

Another example of the Victorian government working to help make energy companies more profits.

How does ESC VIC say the FIT min is 0.04 of a cent whereas IPART in NSW sets it between 4.8 - 7.4 cents

Victoria has more wind generation than NSW and QLD, and the combined wind plus solar generation exceeds that of NSW and QLD. Victoria has lower wholesale electricity prices than NSW and QLD. Victoria has negative wholesale prices more frequently than NSW and QLD. It is more likely that people will be exporting solar power when wholesale prices are negative in Victoria than NSW and QLD.

FIT is a function of wholesale prices. Victoria having a lower FIT then NSW and QLD is a good thing, because Victorian electricity is cheaper.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

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I just saw this article saying the Algal bloom is affecting Adelaide beaches. Here is a dead dolphin taken at Grange beach.

'Heartbreaking' algal bloom hits metropolitan Adelaide beaches

Dolphins, sea lions, sharks, rays and fish have all been sighted washed up dead on Adelaide's beaches as the impact of the algal bloom continues to be felt across the state.

www.abc.net.au

We are starting to see the real cost for the war on renewable energy, for our tardiness in responding to global warming. This has been predicted for over forty years. The response crippled by lies & disinformation, spread by the likes of Murdoch, coal lobby and f*cking idiots like Gina.

This is your future boys and girls, dead seas, flooded cities and a collapsing biosphere. I'm old and won't see the worst of it but it makes me sad for my kids and future generations. Make sure you remember the folks who lied to you and told you global warming wasn't real.

Idiots "Like " Gina, maybe , but its a global issue, and Gina is small fry when looking for individuals to blame. Ultimately it doesn't come down to individuals.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Idiots "Like " Gina, maybe , but its a global issue, and Gina is small fry when looking for individuals to blame. Ultimately it doesn't come down to individuals.

That's not how it works. If Australia gets to net zero, climate change ends.

 

[Saint]

That's not how it works. If Australia gets to net zero, climate change ends.

If Australia gets to net zero, our electricity price will continue to plunge and others will follow suit and hire Australian academics and technicians to show them how to do it.

If we don't, our electricity prices will continue to increase and eventually we'll have to hire overseas companies and academics and technicians to show us how to do it.

 

[CD Xbow]

Idiots "Like " Gina, maybe , but its a global issue, and Gina is small fry when looking for individuals to blame. Ultimately it doesn't come down to individuals.

Yes, it's not just Gina, it's every moron who denies global warming and inhibits the move to renewable energy. Those with power are the most responsible, such as the fossil fuel industry, the LNP and the media.



This makes depressing reading, an article by an oceanographer at Flinders Uni whose computer model predicts advance of the bloom into Spencer gulf over next summer, despite waning a bit over winter. I hope he is wrong. Graph above shows numbers of algae in cells per ml, article below.

South Australia’s algal bloom may shrink over winter – but this model suggests it will spread to new areas in summer

Preliminary results from computer modelling suggests the harmful algal bloom that has been killing marine life will return with a vengeance after winter and spread.

theconversation.com

This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but with a wimper

 

[nut]

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Bullshit Barnaby’s bullshit arguments demolished in quick order

Why Barnaby’s war on net zero’s already sunk

Barnaby Joyce gave three reasons for dumping net zero climate change targets. They’re all wrong.

www.smh.com.au

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

If Australia gets to net zero, our electricity price will continue to plunge and others will follow suit and hire Australian academics and technicians to show them how to do it.

If we don't, our electricity prices will continue to increase and eventually we'll have to hire overseas companies and academics and technicians to show us how to do it.

If we get there and if electricity prices plunge (and if our grid is stable), then yes, others will follow suit. If we don't, and if, say, Sweden get there, does that mean we need to reconsider nuclear energy and biomass fuels alongside renewables?

 

[schneebly111]

WA Liberals abandoning Net Zero (among other right wing moves):

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07...-to-abandon-net-zero-by-2050-policy/105576674

 

[nut]

If we get there and if electricity prices plunge (and if our grid is stable), then yes, others will follow suit. If we don't, and if, say, Sweden get there, does that mean we need to reconsider nuclear energy and biomass fuels alongside renewables?

No.
Looks like South Australia will make it before anyone.
Gas currently on for no reason!!!

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

No.
Looks like South Australia will make it before anyone.
Gas currently on for no reasons!!!

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That's nice. Then at 8pm tonight, 82% of SA power comes fro gas or imported from Victoria's brown coal plants.

 

[Gough]

Looks like Adani has proceeded exactly as the former government intended it to.

Despite $22bn promise, Adani has paid zero corporate tax in Australia and experts think it won’t ever pay a cent

Adani’s Australian assets regularly report annual losses despite strong revenue, in part due to big related-party payments

www.theguardian.com

 

[10571z]

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I just saw this article saying the Algal bloom is affecting Adelaide beaches. Here is a dead dolphin taken at Grange beach.

'Heartbreaking' algal bloom hits metropolitan Adelaide beaches

Dolphins, sea lions, sharks, rays and fish have all been sighted washed up dead on Adelaide's beaches as the impact of the algal bloom continues to be felt across the state.

www.abc.net.au

We are starting to see the real cost for the war on renewable energy, for our tardiness in responding to global warming. This has been predicted for over forty years. The response crippled by lies & disinformation, spread by the likes of Murdoch, coal lobby and f*cking idiots like Gina.

This is your future boys and girls, dead seas, flooded cities and a collapsing biosphere. I'm old and won't see the worst of it but it makes me sad for my kids and future generations. Make sure you remember the folks who lied to you and told you global warming wasn't real.

Algal Bloom has been happening forever. This is nothing new.