Tiller cannot play back

[bulldogsman]

Please Rocket don't look this thread.

I'm sure he would get a good laugh out of it

 

[acker]

I suggest you stop listening to the radio, and what commentators may say & actually watch the game.

Sadly for us as supporters he won't make the grade.

So if we are to sack him

What are we to do with Lindsay Gilbee and Matthew Boyd who lairised with an ill concieved Gilb's to Boydy short pass then Bordy slipping a handpass to Gilb's for a point during the last quarter.

 

[Year of the Dog]

Very worthy defender and will continue to improve. Kicking wise (which I think is a little susceptible), if the lad plays within his limitations, then I don't see a problem.

To explain, with regards to using the footy, he just needs to take the safe options wherever possible (just as Morris seems to) as opposed to the more adventurous - leave the creativity to the Gilbs, Griffs etc.

Do that and you minimise your deficiencies and add more value to the team.

 

[Cudi]

Tiller proved in the Finals last year he deserves to be on the team and is now an important player in our backline.

 

[bulldogsman]

Very worthy defender and will continue to improve. Kicking wise (which I think is a little susceptible), if the lad plays within his limitations, then I don't see a problem.

To explain, with regards to using the footy, he just needs to take the safe options wherever possible (just as Morris seems to) as opposed to the more adventurous - leave the creativity to the Gilbs, Griffs etc.

Do that and you minimise your deficiencies and add more value to the team.

I agree with this. From what i've seen of Tiller in the VFL and AFL. He tends to use the long option very well, but can also get a bit carried away instead of taking the safe option

 

[immortalmike]

I think you should have a good look yourself at the Prelim final....
1):- handballed directly to Steve Johnson : who goaled
2):- Kicked into the man on the mark fortunately the turnover only resulted in a point......

No good under pressure

I don't doubt his endeavour, just his ability

Cherry-picking is fun. I'd like to know if Cross, Boyd, Lake, or even Gilbee would stand up to this kind of scrutiny. All these players have made many mistakes under pressure (Lake still gives me heart attacks sometimes). Its not the mistakes a player makes its the way the respond.

Also all the people saying he'll never be a star, did Boyd, Cross, Gilbee, Lake, or Hahn look like stars after 17 games of football?

 

[Lightning_Mcqueen95]

Cherry-picking is fun. I'd like to know if Cross, Boyd, Lake, or even Gilbee would stand up to this kind of scrutiny. All these players have made many mistakes under pressure (Lake still gives me heart attacks sometimes). Its not the mistakes a player makes its the way the respond.

Also all the people saying he'll never be a star, did Boyd, Cross, Gilbee, Lake, or Hahn look like stars after 17 games of football?

What he said.

 

[Snagboy]

Thanks for all the feedback fellas.....

The next 21 weeks will tell the story.....

I hope I'm wrong....however as I said previously has not got the ability!!!!!!

Cheers

Snagboy

 

[Gus]

Lets just agree to disagree hey?

But it seems like Snagboy is the closest to a definitive knocker Tiller has on this thread.

Rockets way too smart a coach to play a guy who cannot play.

I'd like to see Tiller come off the bench (Not quite sure he is a definitive starter), play down back and maybe pinch-hit up foward.

 

[The Boy From Brasil]

Thanks for all the feedback fellas.....

The next 21 weeks will tell the story.....

I hope I'm wrong....however as I said previously has not got the ability!!!!!!

Cheers

Snagboy

I had a similiar opinion to you probably half way through last season. He went through a patch last year just before he was dropped, where he was constantly either panicking or turning the ball over in defence. I honestly thought that defence wasn't the go for him. But as said before, I changed my mind completely when I saw him in the finals.

He is fairly raw, relatively inexperienced and I get the impression he is a real confidence player(he can lose confidence in his skills easily). I would give him 40-50 games to polish his skills and feel comfortable with his position in the side. He is probably at the point in his career where he feels he will be dropped if he plays a bad game. IMO his upside is big, and I hope we can continue to develop him.

 

[ALGY VOSILITIS]

Lets just agree to disagree hey?

But it seems like Snagboy is the closest to a definitive knocker Tiller has on this thread.

Rockets way too smart a coach to play a guy who cannot play.

I'd like to see Tiller come off the bench (Not quite sure he is a definitive starter), play down back and maybe pinch-hit up foward.

Snagboy is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else on this sight and i have seen worse knocking with Wight earlier this year.
Snagboy is a champion fella one one SUNSHINE YC's finest old boys.

 

[Gus]

Snagboy is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else on this sight and i have seen worse knocking with Wight earlier this year.
Snagboy is a champion fella one one SUNSHINE YC's finest old boys.

I never said he wasn't entitled to an opinion. My point is that the majority of posters on this thread disagree with him, including myself. Note how I never said Snagboy or his opinion was wrong. It is why i said agree to disagree.

 

[Cudi]

I once a Tiller hater and didn't want him in the team but he has won me over.

 

[Dazb86]

I think Tiller can definately become a quality player. Much the same as Morris. Just negate a player and forget all the fancy stuff. His attack on the ball is great.

If Everitt had the attack on the ball like Tiller does I'd have him ahead of Tiller every day of the week.

 

[Snagboy]

Snagboy is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else on this sight and i have seen worse knocking with Wight earlier this year.
Snagboy is a champion fella one one SUNSHINE YC's finest old boys.

Some very strong opinions on this issue, Algilly,

All we all want is to win a flag


Cheers

 

[Bulldog4life]

Snagboy is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else on this sight and i have seen worse knocking with Wight earlier this year.
Snagboy is a champion fella one one SUNSHINE YC's finest old boys.

What has that got to do with this discussion Algy?

 

[ALGY VOSILITIS]

What has that got to do with this discussion Algy?

Nothing at all except i know the man! what i should have said is that a lot of his threads are tongue in cheek because he does enjoy a stir and friendly banter with other Bulldog people.

 

[Tortilla]

Nothing at all except i know the man! what i should have said is that a lot of his threads are tongue in cheek because he does enjoy a stir and friendly banter with other Bulldog people.

Thanks, now we know to ignore his crap posts, like this one.

 

[Bulldog1954]

Every doggies supporter knows Tiller will never reach superstar status, but what he brings to the side is ideal for what we are trying to achieve.
He is hard at it and always gives 110%, what he lacks in talent he makes up for in endeavour.
I hope he is in our side all year, cos he has the ability to shut down his opponent through his hardness and allows our more creative defenders do what they do best.
I can never question this blokes intent and that's what makes him so valuable. There is no point having a team of superstars if the 2nd tier players let the rest down, this bloke compliments the exquisite silky skills of Griff, Higgo and Gilbee with uncompromising effort.

What he said. He's no star but he's big, tough, can do a job and has only just turned 22. With him and Williams in the side our backline can no longer ever be called undersized, it allows guys like Shaggy and Dale to play on guys there own size

 

[chef]

Tillers twice the back man Everitts(play him on the wing Rocket) ever going to be, he adds height and weight to an area we were once deficient(now our strength) and means our defence can adjust to handle any forward line(once Callan is back).

 

[The Boy From Brasil]

Tillers twice the back man Everitts(play him on the wing Rocket) ever going to be, he adds height and weight to an area we were once deficient(now our strength) and means our defence can adjust to handle any forward line(once Callan is back).

Agree with everything you say. He still needs to work on and improve his disposal under pressure though. Thats his only real weakness that I can see. His attack on the ball and effort overall is A1.

 

[brandy1023]

What a dumb arsed thread.

 

[Snagboy]

Congratulations you've just been nominated for the worst post of the 2009 season.

Re: Ins and Outs
(quote=PIGDOG)

In: Callan
Out: Tiller or Everitt

I would give Murphy a run at Willi before he comes in.

I guess it depends on how our players pull up as playing at Subiaco can be pretty taxing so we may need to make a couple of more changes.


WHERE ARE YOU COMMING FROM PIGDOG:

ON SUNDAY YOU SAY HE SHOULD BE DROPPED, (SEE ABOVE)
YET ON TUESDAY YOU SAID ITS THE WORST POST OF 2009.....

Just a note for the others:

I suggest you look at the team for Sunday.......


Cheers

 

[Lightning_Mcqueen95]

Re: Ins and Outs
(quote=PIGDOG)

In: Callan
Out: Tiller or Everitt

I would give Murphy a run at Willi before he comes in.

I guess it depends on how our players pull up as playing at Subiaco can be pretty taxing so we may need to make a couple of more changes.


WHERE ARE YOU COMMING FROM PIGDOG:

ON SUNDAY YOU SAY HE SHOULD BE DROPPED, (SEE ABOVE)
YET ON TUESDAY YOU SAID ITS THE WORST POST OF 2009.....

Just a note for the others:

I suggest you look at the team for Sunday.......


Cheers

Horses for courses. Tiller, Everrit, Harbrow, Hill, Ward, Reid, Picken and a couple off others will be in and out off the side all year. North have three small guns and Eade is going to shut them down with the likes off Tim Callan, Picken, and probably Hargrave. Getting dropped for this game does not prove your point and I'll put money on it Tiller will play plenty off games this year.

 

[Snagboy]

Horses for courses. Tiller, Everrit, Harbrow, Hill, Ward, Reid, Picken and a couple off others will be in and out off the side all year. North have three small guns and Eade is going to shut them down with the likes off Tim Callan, Picken, and probably Hargrave. Getting dropped for this game does not prove your point and I'll put money on it Tiller will play plenty off games this year.

Barring injuries, Tiller will not play much at all...and I am happy to bet you $1k he does not play 60 games for the Doggies

Your logic/ reason for him being dropped seems somewhat askew, as Tiller is 186cm & North have picked a very tall side for Sundays game

Its not about smalls to match up on