TJ hit the Freeway!

[Flashhh]

Thats right I think it would be good if Travis Johnstone along with Cameron Bruce and Brad Green were traded. After watching Geelong on the weekend we are are no chance for a flag next year or even the year after. We don't need a to fully rebuild or have a cleanout as such but if we can get good young kids and or draft picks for these three then we would be able to draft some key defenders.

With the midfield group of McLean, Sylvia, Jones. Forwards like Bate and Newton and backman like Bell and Rivers we are on the way to building something good.

ps. i also think its a great title

 

[TJ is GOD]

Thats right I think it would be good if Travis Johnstone along with Cameron Bruce and Brad Green were traded. After watching Geelong on the weekend we are are no chance for a flag next year or even the year after. We don't need a to fully rebuild or have a cleanout as such but if we can get good young kids and or draft picks for these three then we would be able to draft some key defenders.

With the midfield group of McLean, Sylvia, Jones. Forwards like Bate and Newton and backman like Bell and Rivers we are on the way to building something good.

ps. i also think its a great title

trade green and bruce I agree

but trade TJ

you my uneducated friend are a clown!!!!

TJ is not only a vital cog in the melbourne midfield but the type of player that wil thrive under a better game plan where his aility is utilised.

TJ has the most brownlow votes of any melbourne player over the past 6 seasons and should be seen as a major player for a flag push.

this constant TJ bashing is ridiculous he may not be the most consistant player but under a new direction he could easily become the next melbourne brownlow medalist.

this is a complete waste of a thread re-name it get rid of that useless pair of green and bruce.

 

[Dez!]

Maybe 1 of them 2 at the most but not all 3 of them, young kids are great but experience mixed with youth is even better.

 

[Dez!]

this is a complete waste of a tread rename it get rid of that useless pair of green and bruce.

And you call him uneducated, both Green and Bruce are far from useless. All 3 of them are tradeable but I'd like to see us keep them especially after Bailey's address yesterday.

 

[dee-molishon]

Dont use brownlow votes as a argumenitive tool some of the most important and best players in the league never get them ie: scarlett, johnathan brown.....its a mid fielders award

Yes trade Brad Green never liked him....still has to much soccer in him throwing his head back for freekicks i flipping hate it.........if green was in bellys spot against johnson )collingwood match) he would have never even been hit in the head it would have already been thrown back

Bruce....na hang onto him hes a match winner......he frustrates me but he is great to play on brad johnson as well as other players simlar as him........his kicking frustrates me though it will never improve.......shanks way to many kicks for my liking

 

[Flashhh]

Yes trade Brad Green never liked him....

Bruce.... his kicking frustrates me though it will never improve.......shanks way to many kicks for my liking

same with Brad Green... has always been soft and Bruce's kicking as well. He seems to have a lazy swinging action. still a good player though

 

[15Petterd15]

dont like the idea of trading bruce green and trav

im fine with green to go but Bruce is one of our best players sure we have something building up with our young players but come on BRUCE!!

Im only fine if we get somthing good in return for trav he is a star player and got 42 possesions against carlton for christ sakes.

 

[Flashhh]

Im only fine if we get somthing good in return for trav he is a star player and got 42 possesions against carlton for christ sakes.

Mate I could of got 42 possessions in that game. No pressure whatsoever let alone. No one was on him let alone tagging him.

 

[Double Dee]

I would only trade one of them if we were after someone like Judd. Now we are not - we should to keep them.

Brad Green shouldn't be compared to Bruce and TJ - he may not be a matchwinner, but there have been no players more consistent than him (sorry Jmac) in the past 8 years. See my thread on Demonology - Click here

Bruce and TJ on their days are matchwinners. Put some consistency into them (hopefully Bailey can do) and they are potential AAs (Jmac did it - why can't they).

Once these guys find suitable postions (I say TJ wing, Bruce HFF, Green HBF or wing) they can turn into quality players. You may think they wont bring us a premiership, but they are hardly going to get in the way of one.

In light of this, lets just hope the young brigade of McLean, Jones, Moloney, Sylvia, Bell, etc. turn out to be a little better than this trio.

 

[JuveRule]

same with Brad Green... has always been soft and Bruce's kicking as well. He seems to have a lazy swinging action. still a good player though

Have to disagree with you about Greeny, showed this year that he is by no means soft, have a look at the amount of times he ran back into the pack, taking some great marks, also got into the middle of packs moreso than in previous years.

Problem with Bruce's kicking is that he drops it terribly and also tries to kick it far too hard sometimes. I'm sure there's someone behind the scenes who can straighten that all out for him.

Back to Green, also adds a lot in terms of leadership and with the impending retirement of Neita, he'll be someone the younger kids turn to in a few years.

 

[Flashhh]

Juniour has been much more consistent than Green and you forgot young Ricky Petterd

 

[CowboyFromHell]

Hmmm... getting rid of all three? That would screw with the club more than you think. That's 3 players who have all played around the 150 game mark for the club and who are all vital parts to our team.

Your argument isn't all that good although I'm not sure if you were totally serious or not. TJ I could handle leaving, but not Bruce and Green as well. I actually think that Green (while I did throw him up as trade bait!) has come along way over the past few seasons and if Bruce could learn to kick properly then he would be up there with the elite.

But the playing group would suffer big time if all 3 were traded away... plus it wouldn't happen anyway.

 

[Supermercado]

trade green and bruce I agree

but trade TJ

you my uneducated friend are a clown!!!!

TJ is not only a vital cog in the melbourne midfield but the type of player that wil thrive under a better game plan where his aility is utilised.

TJ has the most brownlow votes of any melbourne player over the past 6 seasons and should be seen as a major player for a flag push.

Do you get a slight stirring in the nether regions whenever TJ is mentioned? Or are you his mum?

 

[Tommyneu]

I'm not sure why this hasn't been mentioned before...but...remember in Green's early days when he used to play as a leading forward? WHAT HAPPENED! He was/is such an accurate shot for goal. I think it's about time we cleared out the forward line, plonk him and Neita in the square and bang. Goal fest. I will never forget Green's goal in the 2000 qualifying final against Carlton where he went nuts in the last quarter. Does anyone else reckon he should be a permenant forward?

 

[Slander]

While nobody is truly indispensible in the overall quest for a premiership - I would query the OP on the strength of their arguement...

After watching Geelong on the weekend we are are no chance for a flag next year or even the year after. This time last year Geelong fans would've been spouting similar sentiments about their own club. I'm not saying I think we'll win the premiership next year but Geelong should serve as an example as a club where a plan was implemented and followed through with a steely resolve from a team previously reknown for being a bit fragile. A team that said enough was enough, slogged their guts out on the training track and refused to meekly take shit from anyone.

We don't need a to fully rebuild or have a cleanout as such but if we can get good young kids and or draft picks for these three then we would be able to draft some key defenders.
When it comes to drafting I believe that you take the best player available not the best fit for your side. Remember Luke Molan? Just quietly would rather someone like Dal Santo ATM...

This is reportedly a draft that is light on for talent in previous years. What would be the point of trading Bruce, Green & TJ for second round picks (believe me none would first round draft picks) and all the kids from this draft turn out to be Simon Godfrey.

With the midfield group of McLean, Sylvia, Jones. Forwards like Bate and Newton and backman like Bell and Rivers we are on the way to building something good.
It's a beautiful theory but McLean struggled to break tags this year, Sylvia is far from bona-fide (could be a new TJ) ditto Bate & Newton, Jones could conceivably receive heavier attention next year.
History suggests Bell and Rivers struggle to get on the park a fair bit.
I agree that Bruce, Green & TJ are not A-grade footballers thus their value to us is probably more than we would get at the trade table.
They probably will not be the keys in any MFC premiership side, however I think they'd be fairly handy top up players - experience and class wise around the nucleus of the side that you mentioned.

 

[dee-molishon]

A post i do agree with is green being used as a foward first and midfielder second, but his goal kicking accuracy seems to have got progressivley worse each year he has played, not sure he has the pace to get away from his opponents on the lead anymore either....green is a worry to me and may have to be used as our potion coming out of defence, even though he doesnt man up enough need to play him as that loose man role if we are going to put him back.

Bruces kicking will never get better once he has come this far in his career it makes it terribley hard to change any of his machanics with his kicking action. Thank god we got a hold of robbo when we did earlier in his career he has been a beutiful set shot the past 5-6 years, and his action was changed early on when it we could actually do something.....bruce has been kicking the way he does for too long, trying to change his machanics would only result in bruce thinking too much over the ball and he would lose all sorts of confidence in front of goal. better off just letting him go he is what he is and that is a very good kick or a shocking kick HIT/MISS

When i saw sports tonight last night it was good to here paul roos say that NO player at sydney was safe from trading, although u could asume that kirk goodes and hall are just that.....but to me i would think the swans are trying to get rid of some of there so called clutter but some of there clutter could be very handy aquasitions..........a player from the swans i will throw up to u who can get the ball himself and could come at a reasonable price is NIC FOSDIKE if we could give up a mid to late draft pick for him i think that would be worth while or a straight swap for miller would be even better

 

[TJ is GOD]

I think Brad Green should have been traded 12 months ago. People say he's soft which is I dont completely think is the case. I just think he isnt strong in the contest and doesnt have an impact on play what so ever.

How many times does he lose his feet under no or minimal pressure? Its like the MCG is an ice staking rink.

He kicks the footy like he's playing a seven iron...just likes to watch the ball through the air. This is on the back of him getting cheap handball out the back heath scotland kicks from half back.

And worst of all this talk of this courage backing into packs......courage more like stupidity.......everytime he comes over the top for a spoil he hits it straight to his direct opponent who kicks a goal.

It really show where our club is at when a bloke like Brad Green is in our leadership group.

 

[Dez!]

I think Brad Green should have been traded 12 months ago. People say he's soft which is I dont completely think is the case. I just think he isnt strong in the contest and doesnt have an impact on play what so ever.

How many times does he lose his feet under no or minimal pressure? Its like the MCG is an ice staking rink.

He kicks the footy like he's playing a seven iron...just likes to watch the ball through the air. This is on the back of him getting cheap handball out the back heath scotland kicks from half back.

And worst of all this talk of this courage backing into packs......courage more like stupidity.......everytime he comes over the top for a spoil he hits it straight to his direct opponent who kicks a goal.

It really show where our club is at when a bloke like Brad Green is in our leadership group.

TJ Should be traded.

 

[melbournemartin]

I thought that Green actually showed a lo of improvement in 07. He's actually getting a bit of hard ball and taking some couragious marks.

Out of the 3, Bruce is the one I wouldn't mind trading and we could get a bit of value out of him with a club like Sydney that is looking to top up a bit.

 

[saj_21]

I'm not sure why this hasn't been mentioned before...but...remember in Green's early days when he used to play as a leading forward? WHAT HAPPENED! He was/is such an accurate shot for goal. I think it's about time we cleared out the forward line, plonk him and Neita in the square and bang. Goal fest. I will never forget Green's goal in the 2000 qualifying final against Carlton where he went nuts in the last quarter. Does anyone else reckon he should be a permenant forward?

He is wasted in the backline. Opposition teams know how dangerous his kicking can be to set plays up the groud so they drag him back to the goal saqure. I rekon his bets spot is on the wing he has enough pace and beautiful kick over 60 meters could be very dangerous running up and down between the 2 50m arcs and use that damaging left foot spottin up targets in fwd 50

 

[pinkcrows]

TJ for messen??thoughts??

 

[master bate]

TJ for messen??thoughts??

Meesen for free!

 

[pinkcrows]

If meesen goes for nothing i will be so mad

 

[western]

TJ for messen??thoughts??

People come on, we are talking about TJ here.

Why would you ever trade someone who is a star. Yes i totally agree with the frustration we all get when he doesnt star like he should EVERY week, but surely a #1 draft pick like him is not worth trading for a second round pick. NO CHANCE

you could trade a Green for a solid back or forward,

i think Bruce we need aswell. Not my fav player dont like the way he goes about it, but he is a good player.

We get a good couple of picks this year (imagine another petterd and frawley!!) i think things are looking up.

We really now need to sharpen up our spine for the future, we need a really good CHF who can consistantly take marks all good teams have these,

i think with a change of game plan, a refresh coach who will be on even terms with all players we could be in for an exciting 08

 

[TJ is GOD]

TJ for messen??thoughts??

Only someone from South Australia could suggest such a trade.

You know what they say:

When you go to Souh Australia turn your watch back 30 mins and your mind set back 10 years.