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there is a huge difference in people who say they are supporters and people who support financially be buying memberships and merchandise
essendons merchandise figures were up by something like 400,000 this year and that was before the grand final
they are also the clearest highest memberships sales in victoria
there are a heap of collingwood supporters that i know that are only supporters when they are winning,and dont by memberships
essendons merchandise figures were up by something like 400,000 this year and that was before the grand final
they are also the clearest highest memberships sales in victoria
there are a heap of collingwood supporters that i know that are only supporters when they are winning,and dont by memberships
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so if I hold 2 memberships one full and one country (which i do) does that mean i gets counted twice of because i have never been polled for anything (except the pepsi challenge, where i correctly picked coke) do i get counted at all? ALL A POLL Shows is the percentage of those polled who like one thing or another and football crosses over the usuall boundarys of age, sex, religion, sexuallity etc. so what do a morgan poll prove ...... virtually nothing. Its not political
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Dan,
Can you please stop stuffing that Herald-Sun survey (not poll) down our throats to point out Essendon's 'massive' support?
Yes, it pointed out that of the people who took the trouble to fill in the survey and send into the HWT offices, your team had 20% of support from Victorian's.
But does that mean 20% of Victorian football supporters barrack for Essendon? Of course not.
From a perspective of someone whose team struggled this year, I know my immediate reaction was not to bother to reply. Conversely, if my team was unbeaten and on top of the ladder, I would have loved the opportunity to respond to the survey and would have filled it in and sent it off immediately.
Perhaps Collingwood supporters in this instance did not bother returning the survey either.
And it has already been mentioned that polls are basically crap anyway, for a number of reasons:-
- Do these polls measure how much of a supporter the people actually are? I mean, what is to say that a proportion of the interviewees were not actually football supporters but were just prompted to name a team they liked anyway.
- People love to support winners. It is amazing how many people I have known for many years informed me this year that they had always barracked for Essendon, or Melbourne.
Anyway, I read in another post that supporters from my club are frontrunners. That is one of the funniest things I have heard for a long time. The words "St Kilda" and "Frontrunners" do not together Dan. Like StrenthThroughLoyalty said in another post, we are a club rich in history but crave success. Surely a frontrunner would choose a successful team, wouldn't they?
Can you please stop stuffing that Herald-Sun survey (not poll) down our throats to point out Essendon's 'massive' support?
Yes, it pointed out that of the people who took the trouble to fill in the survey and send into the HWT offices, your team had 20% of support from Victorian's.
But does that mean 20% of Victorian football supporters barrack for Essendon? Of course not.
From a perspective of someone whose team struggled this year, I know my immediate reaction was not to bother to reply. Conversely, if my team was unbeaten and on top of the ladder, I would have loved the opportunity to respond to the survey and would have filled it in and sent it off immediately.
Perhaps Collingwood supporters in this instance did not bother returning the survey either.
And it has already been mentioned that polls are basically crap anyway, for a number of reasons:-
- Do these polls measure how much of a supporter the people actually are? I mean, what is to say that a proportion of the interviewees were not actually football supporters but were just prompted to name a team they liked anyway.
- People love to support winners. It is amazing how many people I have known for many years informed me this year that they had always barracked for Essendon, or Melbourne.
Anyway, I read in another post that supporters from my club are frontrunners. That is one of the funniest things I have heard for a long time. The words "St Kilda" and "Frontrunners" do not together Dan. Like StrenthThroughLoyalty said in another post, we are a club rich in history but crave success. Surely a frontrunner would choose a successful team, wouldn't they?
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Sainter,
I was just trying to prove we have the most, that's all. And we do
As for that particular Herald-Su survey, I don't believe the merits of your team in 2000 would have affected a supporters "want" to send the survey back.
Despite, some team having poor years, the traditional 4 power teams (Essendon, Collingwood, Richmond and Carlton) were still the top 4 supported clubs.
Ironically, Melbourne who had a very good 2000, were the least supported. Fugure that out ?
That annual survey has always been a pretty reasonable assessment (not 100% but it gives you an idea) of support, regardless of how a team is travelling.
I was just trying to prove we have the most, that's all. And we do
As for that particular Herald-Su survey, I don't believe the merits of your team in 2000 would have affected a supporters "want" to send the survey back.
Despite, some team having poor years, the traditional 4 power teams (Essendon, Collingwood, Richmond and Carlton) were still the top 4 supported clubs.
Ironically, Melbourne who had a very good 2000, were the least supported. Fugure that out ?
That annual survey has always been a pretty reasonable assessment (not 100% but it gives you an idea) of support, regardless of how a team is travelling.
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I can't believe I'm about to defend Collingwood here, but Dan24, why have you given (on previous threads) St. Kilda and Richmond the benefit of the doubt by saying that they have a massive latent following and yet you don't allow the same for Collingwood?
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Shinboners,
Yes, obviously Collingwood have massive support too. Latent support that is. They have huge potential, if they ever get it going.
I do admire Collingwood supporters believe it or not. Very loyal, even though they are blinkered to everything that is not black and white
Yes, obviously Collingwood have massive support too. Latent support that is. They have huge potential, if they ever get it going.
I do admire Collingwood supporters believe it or not. Very loyal, even though they are blinkered to everything that is not black and white
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