Do you pronounce castle as cassel or carstle?
Is the correct pronounciation of Newcastle Newcassel or Newcarstle?
Is the correct pronounciation of Newcastle Newcassel or Newcarstle?
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Strangly enough, I say cassel and Newcarstle
Depends which University you went too. Both are in common use.
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Carstle......
cassle is just
cassle is just
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That's what intrigues me. Whether people use different pronounciations. I say cassel with both.
There's a blast from the past.
It's 'cassle', 'carsle' is the Australian need to add an extra second when pronouncing a vowel. It's a bit like Western Australians pronouncing derby phonetically, even though the place the word comes from is pronounced 'dar-by'.
Australians seem to be very arrogant when it comes to their accents and pronounciations, like the Western Australians they don't want to admit that they have been talking like idiots for years so they just carry on doing it.
Australians seem to be very arrogant when it comes to their accents and pronounciations, like the Western Australians they don't want to admit that they have been talking like idiots for years so they just carry on doing it.
Yeah, but we don't sound as ridiculous as New Zealanders, that's for sure!
Whilst I haven't spoken to Her Majesty for at least two months, I am fairly sure She wouldn't pronounce Windsor Castle as Windsor Casstle.
Casstle is a New South Wales accent trait...along with school being pronounce schoo-ill (hard to explain in writing!).
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France. Dance. The arr sounds too aristocratic.
It's cassel - unless you're South Australian. Like water poe-lo and foopbaww and trarnsplarnt.
I say Cassel, Newcarstle & Casselmaine, think it's a state thing, because I spent a lot of time in NSW, I only ever heard it pronounced Newcarstle, where Casselmaine is always pronounced that way in Vic.
So I guess, us Vics use the common pronunciation & not followed the Poms, plum in the mouth way of pronouncing things.
So I guess, us Vics use the common pronunciation & not followed the Poms, plum in the mouth way of pronouncing things.
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Depends where in England. ****neys say it Newcassel, same with Geordies, etc. Aristocrats hang on the voul (hence arrh).
I'm really just interested in the Australian accent. Is it different depending on region like in Britain/USA etc? How did the Australian accent come about?
I'm really just interested in the Australian accent. Is it different depending on region like in Britain/USA etc? How did the Australian accent come about?
Well I thought I had said it is generally a state by state thing, like Derby, Darby, cassel etc.
Also, I think it is affected by social status, or class status if you like, you will notice, that the rich tend to use the plum in the mouth way of talking, where us commoners, talk more Ocker, slang type of speech.
This could be a follow on from colonial Australia, where the rich squatters, were mainly from wealthy English families & the others were working class , or ex convicts.
Well, that's my theory anyway.
Also, I think it is affected by social status, or class status if you like, you will notice, that the rich tend to use the plum in the mouth way of talking, where us commoners, talk more Ocker, slang type of speech.
This could be a follow on from colonial Australia, where the rich squatters, were mainly from wealthy English families & the others were working class , or ex convicts.
Well, that's my theory anyway.
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Carstle.
In Victoria it's roughly evenly split, but no-one up here says Cassle.
There's a few other differences. In Bendigo (where I lived in the 1980s) the main street's pronounced Pal Mal; but in Sydney the same street would be pronounced Paul Maul.
In Victoria it's roughly evenly split, but no-one up here says Cassle.
There's a few other differences. In Bendigo (where I lived in the 1980s) the main street's pronounced Pal Mal; but in Sydney the same street would be pronounced Paul Maul.
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I say Newcarstle but have found that many Queenslanders pronounce it Newcassel.
Except ex Vics, west aussies say it the same as in SA & NSW, but you still pronounce Darby wrong.
Well as I'd probably fall into what you'd describe as a c*ckney I have to disagree with what you've said.
Over here the difference in how these things are pronounced on cases like this is pretty starkly divided between north & south (I don't know where the divide is though), us Londoners would definitely pronounce Newcastle as New-carssal, whilst Geordies would say New-cassel.
We will add an r to words like bath or path to pronounce them barth & parth whilst our simple northern cousins take a more literal approach to life & treat things like they find them.
As for the Aussie accent I read something once that said it was a cross between c*ckney & Irish, it takes some of the harsh (vowel)sound & words like mate from c*ckney but has that slightly sing songy style that you get from the Irish, that way that Aussies make a statement but raise their voice slightly towards the end to make it almsot sound like a question.
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Neither have I. Haven't heard it in SA either
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That probably sounds right, given that the Irish and (probably) the c*ckneys were the majority of the population in Australia during the 19th century, when the accent was probably developed. But I tend to think the accent is a variant of the Irish. I don't know about others but I find it much, much easier to do an Irish accent than anything else.
I find that, in Britain, the regional accents sound more 'scottish' the further north you go. For instance, southern English are easily picked, while the northern English sound more like the folk over the border than they do their southern counterparts. Scousers, brummies and other northen midlands people sound more 'harsher' than in the south. I don't get c*ckneys though (can you explain it to me? Is just a London thing?), I just find it captivating that Australia, given it's shear size compared to Britain, does not have much variation in the accents from the West to the East, north to south etc. Maybe the Aussie accent hasn't fully develpoed yet.
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