Summer Tokyo 2021 - General Discussion and Preview Thread (23rd July to 8th Aug)

[Scary_Foot_9]

Crackers Keenan’s boy Simon rowing in Tokyo


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Simon is his name.

One our powerhouses in the Men’s Eight

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Cricket without crowds was bad but having the Olympics in spacious stadia without a sole will be bizarre. I feel for the athletes.. specially the debutants, having to perform at their best without the aid of accompanying cheering and adulation from family and friends to lift their performance.

Wonder if the Japanese will allow fully vaccinated fans to attend, and spread out over the stadiums / venues / roads events.

Overnight Argentina beat Brazil 1-0 in the biennial Copa America final at the Maracana in Rio. There were a few hundred Brazilian supporters behind one goal and a few hundred Argentinian's at the other end, and maybe a couple of thousand in the stand on the camera side and the stand on the other side was closed off.

A bit of noise and crowd reaction was a lot better than nothing

Brazil and Rio have a lot more cases than Japan and Tokyo.

I hope they as a minimum, allow athletes who are either free because of timing of their events, or have finished their competition, attend events at stadiums / venues / road events to give some support to their countrymen and countrywomen and some atmosphere as well. They are all supposed to be fully vaccinated so not sure what the problem would be, other than the Japanese being super sensitive to the "look" of foreigners being out and about.

 

[BGman]

Wonder if the Japanese will allow fully vaccinated fans to attend, and spread out over the stadiums / venues / roads events.

Overnight Argentina beat Brazil 1-0 in the biennial Copa America final at the Maracana in Rio. There were a few hundred Brazilian supporters behind one goal and a few hundred Argentinian's at the other end, and maybe a couple of thousand in the stand on the camera side and the stand on the other side was closed off.

A bit of noise and crowd reaction was a lot better than nothing

Brazil and Rio have a lot more cases than Japan and Tokyo.

I hope they as a minimum, allow athletes who are either free because of timing of their events, or have finished their competition, attend events at stadiums / venues / road events to give some support to their countrymen and countrywomen and some atmosphere as well. They are all supposed to be fully vaccinated so not sure what the problem would be, other than the Japanese being super sensitive to the "look" of foreigners being out and about.

I am with you. Those vaxed should be allowed to attend..soul less without even a small crowd to provide some atmosphere. As I understand it only Tokyo venues will be crowd free.
Weren't there 65K at Wembley the other day for the soccer. Madness as the UK also has greater cases than Japan and has not yet reached herd immunity.

 

[JackNah_8]

It's sad that fans won't be allowed to attend.

 

[pepsi]

It's sad that fans won't be allowed to attend.

Honestly it's a terrible decision. Even allow 5 or 10% capacity at venues. Space them out. Sport without crowds is soul less.

 

[BGman]

Boomers hammer US in pre Olympic warm up. Yeehah.

Boomers stun US in Olympic Games warm-up

The Australian Boomers have stunned the United States in an Olympic Games tune-up basketball match, winning 91-83 despite the loss of Aron Baynes to injury.

www.abc.net.au

 

[BobbyMorri]

I feel so sorry for the Japanese. This event costs a lot of money but it is a once in a lifetime party in the host city.

Instead, they get a giant bill and no party. I just feel down on this Olympics. watching any sport with no fans will be tough.

 

[BGman]

The Australian Boomers move to 3-0 in their pre-Olympic exhibition circuit in Las Vegas after a 108-69 blowout win over Nigeria , as like the Boomers, the Africans had beaten the US. And the super confident Boomers did the deed without their four stars, Joe Ingles, Patty Mills, Matthew Dellavedova and Aron Baynes. Chris Goulding led the way for Australia with 21 points, shooting an absurd 7/7 from downtown.

 

[BGman]

All Aussie Boomers have tested negative after the disclosure that American Bradley Beal has Covid and will miss the Olympics. There was some panic among Boomers personell when Beal was diagnosed as Australia had played Team USA last week in a Olympic warm up basketball series in America.

 

[HTT]

I feel so sorry for the Japanese. This event costs a lot of money but it is a once in a lifetime party in the host city.

Instead, they get a giant bill and no party. I just feel down on this Olympics. watching any sport with no fans will be tough.

Yep it really sucks for them. Regardless of whether or not its a better strategy generally, I'm really surprised Japan didn't push hard for 0 so they could get this to go off.

 

[BGman]

Tokyo 2020 Preview: Rowing

Australia’s rowing team is the second largest team within the Australian Olympic Team, with a total of 38 athletes competing across nine boats.

www.olympics.com.au

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Alex De Minaur out of the Olympics after testing positive for Covid

No mention whether he was vaccinated or not

 

[troybe]

Bruce saying it’s the most anticipated Olympics in history. Er, not this time Macca


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[Sarcoidevo]

Re - Sha'Carri Richardson testing + for weed

Cant say i trust what we hear from the USADA who made the call (not WADA) - my call is that she tested positive for a far more damning PED but given she is the no.1 ranked female sprinter in the world this year the US couldnt afford a huge controversy weeks out from the Olympics so they conspired to come up with a lesser charge in weed

For me the current fastest female athlete in the world smoking weed days before key US Olympic trials knowing its fully banned just doesnt compute ...... because she was distraught over the death of her biological Mum?? ...... hey Sha'Carri lets go smoke some weed ..... but I have the US Olympic trials next week and its banned ........ yeah but smoking weed will soothe your crazy grief which is more important than competing in the Olympics you have trained the last 4 years for ...... yeah good idea lets get high

Her times this year are Marion Jones (drug cheat) like and just like Flo Jo she goes the full ridiculous make up look thinking it covers obvious manly facial features caused by HGH and the like

I am not much of a conspiracy theorist but this has my doping alarm bells ringing given US Athletics shocking history of drug cheating

They cant afford another huge profile athlete to show up positive for PEDs so this time ...... I am sorry Sha'Carri you are going to have to miss the Olympics but to protect you and us from world shame ...... this week you are a weed smoker

Just keep in mind that WADA are out of the picture ..... this is an internal US thing

Dennis Mitchell is her coach who also coaches Gaitlin - both convicted drug cheats ....... Gaitlin twice

Long bow to draw ........ or is it??

 

[Sarcoidevo]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/ot...by-doping-shadow-of-dennis-mitchell-1.4601242

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Re - Sha'Carri Richardson testing + for weed

Cant say i trust what we hear from the USADA who made the call (not WADA) - my call is that she tested positive for a far more damning PED but given she is the no.1 ranked female sprinter in the world this year the US couldnt afford a huge controversy weeks out from the Olympics so they conspired to come up with a lesser charge in weed

For me the current fastest female athlete in the world smoking weed days before key US Olympic trials knowing its fully banned just doesnt compute ...... because she was distraught over the death of her biological Mum?? ...... hey Sha'Carri lets go smoke some weed ..... but I have the US Olympic trials next week and its banned ........ yeah but smoking weed will soothe your crazy grief which is more important than competing in the Olympics you have trained the last 4 years for ...... yeah good idea lets get high

Her times this year are Marion Jones (drug cheat) like and just like Flo Jo she goes the full ridiculous make up look thinking it covers obvious manly facial features caused by HGH and the like

I am not much of a conspiracy theorist but this has my doping alarm bells ringing given US Athletics shocking history of drug cheating

They cant afford another huge profile athlete to show up positive for PEDs so this time ...... I am sorry Sha'Carri you are going to have to miss the Olympics but to protect you and us from world shame ...... this week you are a weed smoker

Just keep in mind that WADA are out of the picture ..... this is an internal US thing

Dennis Mitchell is her coach who also coaches Gaitlin - both convicted drug cheats ....... Gaitlin twice

Long bow to draw ........ or is it??

If by - they conspired to come up with a lesser charge in weed - you mean weed + other PEDs were in her system and USADA said lets announce only weed because the other stuff is so minute we probably will lose in a CAS appeal, and we will then get the s**t kicked out of us if we loose a CAS appeal, I can buy that.

If you are saying they completely made up she had weed in her system, when she didn't, but had other stuff, then I call that BS.

I'm someone who believes 95% of pro athletes are on something. And yes you always have to look at who is the coach and the squads training partners when it comes to PED's. The coaches past behaviour does lead to guilt by awssociation IMO.

USADA aren't US Track and Field or US Olympic Committee who in the past would let athletes go to the Olympics if they had tested positive, they made sure they would keep being retested until their new tests were clean. See Dr Wade Exum's revelations in 2003. There has been a massive reform to US doping procedures post Exum's revelations - the Major League Baseball cases, Marion Jones, BALCO, cycling, NFL etc.

OLYMPICS; Anti-Doping Official Says U.S. Covered Up (Published 2003)

World Anti-Doping Agency chairman Dick Pound says United States Olympic Committee covered up drug use by athletes, allowing athletes like Carl Lewis to compete after testing positive for banned substances (M)

www.nytimes.com

Newly disclosed documents prove long-held suspicions that the United States Olympic Committee covered up drug use by athletes, Dick Pound, chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said yesterday.

Dr. Wade Exum, director of drug control for the U.S.O.C. from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to Sports Illustrated and The Orange County Register, and he said they showed that athletes like Carl Lewis and Mary Joe Fernandez tested positive but were allowed to compete anyway.

The Sport Illustrated story starts about half way down the page from their Vault Archives, starting with

Scorecard

Riding the Monster The new seats atop Fenway Park's leftfield wall give life to a not-always-jolly green giant The Green Monster spoke for the first time last

vault.si.com

Playing Favorites?

An ex-USOC official says some athletes were allowed to bend the drug rules .........

USADA have proved time and again they are independent of the influence of individual sports. They have gone thru court battles as well as plenty of CAS appeals.

And people have been pushing Flo Jo's times for the last 5-10 years, not just Marion Jones.

As a guide, a legal +2.0m/sec tail wind turns a 10.50 time with no wind into approx a 10.40 time and
A -2.0m/sec head wind turns that time into 10.60.

Richardson ran a 10.63 with an illegal +2.6m tail wind in the semi final and a 10.86 with a -1.0m/sec head win in the final.

Women's 100m

100m, 100 meters, 100 metres, statistics

www.alltime-athletics.com

All-time women's best 100m

1 10.49 ±0.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1q1 Indianapolis 16.07.1988
2 10.61 +1.2 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1 Indianapolis 17.07.1988
3 10.62 +1.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1q3 Seoul 24.09.1988
4 10.63 +1.3 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1rA Kingston 05.06.2021
5 10.64 +1.2 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Shanghai 20.09.2009
6 10.65A +1.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 Johannesburg 12.09.1998
7 10.67 -0.1 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Thessaloníki 13.09.2009
8 10.70 +1.6 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1s1 Indianapolis 17.07.1988
8 10.70 -0.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 Sevilla 22.08.1999
8 10.70 +2.0 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Eugene 04.06.2011
8 10.70 +0.6 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Kingston 29.06.2012
8 10.70 +0.3 Elaine Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Kingston 01.07.2016
13 10.71 +0.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 Chengdu 12.05.1998
13 10.71 +2.0 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1s2 New Orleans 19.06.1998
13 10.71 -0.3 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Moskva 12.08.2013
13 10.71 +0.5 Elaine Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Rio de Janeiro 13.08.2016
13 10.71 +0.8 Elaine Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Kingston 23.06.2017
13 10.71 +0.1 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Ad-Dawhah 29.09.2019
13 10.71 +1.0 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Kingston 25.06.2021
13 10.71 +0.6 Elaine Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Székesfehérvár 06.07.2021
21 10.72 +2.0 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 New Orleans 20.06.1998

Women's non-legal 100m

100m, 100 meters, 100 metres, statistics

www.alltime-athletics.com

All-time women's best 100m
wind-assisted

1 10.54 +3.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1 Seoul 25.09.1988 (her gold medal performance)
2 10.60 +3.2 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1h1 Indianapolis 16.07.1988
3 10.63 +2.7 Blessing Okagbare NGR 10.09.88 1 Lagos 17.06.2021
4 10.68 +2.2 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1rA Stockholm 01.08.2000
5 10.70 +2.6 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1s2 Seoul 25.09.1988
6 10.71 +2.2 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Eugene 01.06.2013
6 10.71 +2.4 Elaine Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Kingston 07.05.2016
8 10.72 +3.0 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1s1 Eugene 26.06.2009
8 10.72 +3.2 Tori Bowie USA 27.08.90 1s2 Eugene 26.06.2015
8 10.72 +4.5 Tawanna Meadows USA 04.08.86 1r1 Lubbock 06.05.2017
8 10.72 +2.7 Blessing Okagbare NGR 10.09.88 1r1 Austin 31.03.2018
12 10.74 +2.7 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Eugene 24.06.2011
12 10.74 +3.1 Tori Bowie USA 27.08.90 1s1 Eugene 03.07.2016
12 10.74 +2.5 English Gardner USA 22.04.92 1s3 Eugene 03.07.2016
12 10.74 +2.2 Cambrea Sturgis USA 27.03.99 1 Eugene 12.06.2021
16 10.75 +4.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1h3 New Orleans 19.06.1998

performances annulled due to doping offense

1 10.75 -0.4 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Sydney 23.09.2000
2 10.78 +0.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 r1 Berlin 01.09.2000
3 10.82 +0.8 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 Eugene 03.07.2010
4 10.83 +1.0 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 q2 Sydney 22.09.2000
5 10.84 +0.5 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Saint-Denis 06.07.2001
5 10.84 +1.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Brisbane 04.09.2001
5 10.84 +0.3 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Monaco 19.07.2002
5 10.84 +0.9 Sha'Carri Richardson USA 25.03.00 h4 Eugene 18.06.2021
9 10.85 -0.3 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Edmonton 06.08.2001
9 10.85 +0.3 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 q3 Saint-Denis 23.08.2003
9 10.85 +0.9 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Saint-Denis 24.08.2003
12 10.86 +0.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Bruxelles 24.08.2001
12 10.86 -1.0 Sha'Carri Richardson USA 25.03.00 Eugene 19.06.2021
14 10.87 -0.1 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Bruxelles 05.09.2003

performances annulled due to doping offense -wind-assisted

1 10.64 +2.6 Sha'Carri Richardson USA 25.03.00 s1 Eugene 19.06.2021
2 10.79 +2.3 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Carson 01.06.2003
3 10.84 +2.8 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Berlin 10.08.2003
4 10.89 +4.6 Tahesia Harrigan-Scott IVB 15.02.82 h1 Clermont 04.06.2011
5 10.92 +3.4 Angela Issajenko CAN 28.09.58 s2 Brisbane 04.10.1982

 

[spudmaster]

Starting to get real excited now!
Bring it on.

 

[BGman]

Do we make separate threads for some elite Olympic sports. Like swimming, track & field, cycling etc?

Australian Olympic Team Arrives in Numbers

The Australian Olympic Team has experienced its biggest influx of the Tokyo Olympic Games on Saturday with 340 athletes, staff and officials arriving into ...

www.olympics.com.au

There is no event on this planet for me that gets the sporting juices flowing..like the Olympics. I still have vivid memories of seeing the Sydney games live. What a showcase that was.. my home Olympics.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Interesting take here about despite the Japanese government imposing no crowds and the public opposing the Olympics, sports are still being played in front of crowds there.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

Perhaps it's also more of a fear of the athletes and staff/officials bringing more covid into the country.

 

[pepsi]

Interesting take here about despite the Japanese government imposing no crowds and the public opposing the Olympics, sports are still being played in front of crowds there.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

Yeah saw that on ABC offsiders this morning. Very political. Absolute joke there are no crowds allowed.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Official Olympic site - English version

Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games

Official website for the 2020 summer Olympic Games in Japan (23 Jul-8 Aug, 2021). Find the top stories, schedules, event information, and athlete news.

olympics.com

 

[Santana]

Looking forward to the Hockey and the return of Baseball.

 

[dantm]

Associated Press have done their medal tips
Some strange ones there especially Womens 4x200m free

Medal predictions for events at the Tokyo Olympics

TOKYO (AP) — ARCHERY Mixed Team Gold: South Korea

apnews.com

Australia down for 16 Gold

 

[Milang_Panthers]

Getting pretty keen for this now despite the lack of crowds etc.

 

[dantm]

800-meter freestyle
Men
Gold: Jack McLoughlin, Britain
Silver: Mykhailo Romanchuk, Ukraine
Bronze: Gregorio Paltrineri, Italy

Ummm.Jack McLoughlin is Australian

Also…
4 x200m Freestyle

Women
Gold: Britain
Silver: United States
Bronze: Italy

Australia are the WR Holders and hot favourites
Britain didnt even qualify