Mega Thread Trade and List Management discussion

[Struggle]

Don't rate Tomlinson that much I'm guessing? I was keen on him before the Boyd trade.

Forgot about him, I'd have him ahead of Day but behind the rest. Really rate Thompson and May in the backline

 

[fronkalicious]

We have to start watching cap space. We need to keep Bontempelli, Libba, Stringer, Macrae, Hrovat etc. and if we keep saying "we have the cap space to attack a certain player" one of those is going to get prised loose.

Disagree. J mac ain't silly.

 

[fronkalicious]

Forgot about him, I'd have him ahead of Day but behind the rest. Really rate Thompson and May in the backline

We had a big crack at May apparently.

 

[Barking Mad]

at 194cm, Luke Thompson might be worth a crack. Not sure if he'd slide though to rookie though. Apparently did well on Eddy in SANFL.

 

[lachy]

I disagree - Austin played 11 games in 2014 as a role player, and some of those were par.
Redpath barely got near it - 2 goals in 3 games from a guy who is older than Jones.

I love his style of play but I'd keep Austin as a depth player before I gave Redpath another shot - we have Boyd to play the stay at home FF and there is a chance Roughy will play forward this year if we want Boyd cover.

We are very, very thin for key defender positions on our list.

Mofra get where you are coming from but in my opinion Redpath looked better down back for Footscray

 

[Super Hans]

Hoskin-Elliot would cost a fair bit, atleast our first pick (which will probably be top five).

Made it no secret that I love him as a player, I think he is as close to a Stevie J clone as you'll get.

 

[_M_16_]

Hopefully the coach is appointed by then so they can at least have some input.

I don't think the coach will have much input to be honest. Will be coming into the club to late, so I think the list decisions will be left in Jmac's hands this offseason, whilst the coach looks to implement a game plan based on the list he has on hand, and a good chance to see what he has. The one downside to losing coaches so late in the year

 

[FROGGR]

If we can speed up the destruction of GWS by raiding their players, AND win a flag in the process, my AFL bucket list would be complete... almost.

I like that idea very much

 

[dogga91]

Question about Harper, been reading we may still be able to nab him as a delisted free agent.

Is he out of contract? I thought he was just going to be part of the cooney deal, may we actually still land him? and if so, is that in the pre season draft?

 

[AFDogs]

Hoskin-Elliot would cost a fair bit, atleast our first pick (which will probably be top five).

Made it no secret that I love him as a player, I think he is as close to a Stevie J clone as you'll get.

Hoskin-Elliot is definitely within reach. He's a western suburbs boy.

He absolutely smashed us in the last game of 2014. Would love him as a Dog.

 

[Some Idiot]

Mofra get where you are coming from but in my opinion Redpath looked better down back for Footscray

Last year he did but he showed this year that he does have some forward instincts. Personally I think he has an uphill battle to try to get his conditioning up to scratch but he could be handy

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Would rather Sewell, yep he's slow but he was nearly best 22 in the premiership team.

Better yet seems a leader and would add a lot of that key quality that is apparently missing from the club.

I know he has 'retired' but we should be looking to talk him out of it. I'd pick Sewell ahead of M Boyd just because of the culture and leadership he brings to the group from a successful club.

There is a leadership vacuum at the club, recently retired guys from successful clubs, like Sewell or even an LRT should be looked at seriously.

McLean would help the kids out. He knows how to find the ball and with Boyds calf injury problems over the last 2 seasons he would be a good back up and adds much needed experience.

No to Robinson, don't need more "culcha" issues.

McLean would help the kids out. He knows how to find the ball and with Boyds calf injury problems over the last 2 seasons he would be a good back up and adds much needed experience.

No to Robinson, don't need more "culcha" issues.

I think Mclean would be worth the risk not much to lose on an initial one year contract. Clay Smith will out for most of 2015 and think we need another inside mid.

Also the saying goes you are only as good as your last game, see below McLean 3rd best for the blues round 23


CARLTON 6.3 7.4 11.4 14.6 (90)
ESSENDON 1.3 9.6 11.11 13.12 (90)

GOALS
Carlton: Watson 4, Yarran 2, Menzel 2, Armfield, Bell, Waite, Lucas, McLean, Wood
Essendon: Daniher 2, Watson 2, Ryder 2, Ambrose, Merrett, Winderlich, Stanton, Chapman, Goddard, Gleeson

BEST
Carlton: Judd, Watson, McLean, Docherty, Gibbs, Yarran

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

The problem with McLean is pace. I'd rather not add another turtle to a midfield that would come a close second to a sloth in a 20m sprint.

 

[Mutt]

The problem with McLean is pace. I'd rather not add another turtle to a midfield that would come a close second to a sloth in a 20m sprint.

Agree...and McLean will not help our poor disposal efficiency. I really hope that we pass on him.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

The problem with McLean is pace. I'd rather not add another turtle to a midfield that would come a close second to a sloth in a 20m sprint.

Maybe you are right. We can't get Crossy back, so a 28 year old turtle than can find the ball whilst Jong is finding his feet and Clay is recovering maybe worth it.

 

[lachy]

Last year he did but he showed this year that he does have some forward instincts. Personally I think he has an uphill battle to try to get his conditioning up to scratch but he could be handy

Agree and have serious doubts, but has much more upside at both ends than Austin

 

[fronkalicious]

We're going to need some gut running more than ball winning IMO. Any of the delisted guys that can cover the ground ok?? Besides tutt??

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Maybe you are right. We can't get Crossy back, so a 28 year old turtle than can find the ball whilst Jong is finding his feet and Clay is recovering maybe worth it.

I can see that side of it, but I'm just not sure it's the right type of player to bring in. Boyd's still there to play basically the same role (although I have a hunch that a new coach will make him our full time tagger and unleash Wallis). Libba can stand on his own two feet. Wallis is a very important structural piece and plays his role exceptionally well. Stevens' inside work improved tenfold this year and likely gets more midfield time as a result of Griffen's exit. Just not sure, personally, whether a slow, ageing ball-winner with average disposal is the right fit for us at the moment. I'm all for looking for experienced heads but I don't really see the appeal of a McLean/Sewell type at this stage.

 

[Mutt]

We're going to need some gut running more than ball winning IMO. Any of the delisted guys that can cover the ground ok?? Besides tutt??

Harper if Norf and he agree to terminate his contract. Might happen apparently.

 

[fronkalicious]

More I think about it, the more in convinced it was so so important to grab Boyd this year rather than next. Would have made it difficult to get the trade assets together to get him and a Carlisle/WHE/Kelly. Gives us a good run at that next season with Boyd already in the bag.

Anyone think we can get Carlisle AND WHE/Kelly?? Tough. Would need one to come via the psd I reckon.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

fronkalicious Sos made sure he locked Kelly down long-term (he's obsessed with him as a player). Doesn't come out of contract until the end of 2017.

 

[ThirdLegUp]

More I think about it, the more in convinced it was so so important to grab Boyd this year rather than next. Would have made it difficult to get the trade assets together to get him and a Carlisle/WHE/Kelly. Gives us a good run at that next season with Boyd already in the bag.

Anyone think we can get Carlisle AND WHE/Kelly?? Tough. Would need one to come via the psd I reckon.

One of them, Fronk, i think is very likely (carlisle easiest perhaps), both...very unlikely for mine.

 

[Dogs Rule]

More I think about it, the more in convinced it was so so important to grab Boyd this year rather than next. Would have made it difficult to get the trade assets together to get him and a Carlisle/WHE/Kelly. Gives us a good run at that next season with Boyd already in the bag.

Anyone think we can get Carlisle AND WHE/Kelly?? Tough. Would need one to come via the psd I reckon.

The key to getting Carlisle is getting in his ear as much as possible.

Seems clear he still has a very soft spot for us and here's his chance to be part of a young group which will hopefully make club history.

Childhood dream come true all of that sort of stuff.

 

[fronkalicious]

fronkalicious Sos made sure he locked Kelly down long-term (he's obsessed with him as a player). Doesn't come out of contract until the end of 2017.

Thanks dannnnnn

 

[Dav1d]

Carlisle would be obviously perfect

Any good young small defenders we should be after? rebounding or a lockdown type
Always forget that Liam Picken is 28, turning 29 next year