Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Chalky White]

Doesn't pass the no DH policy

Crock of Sh1t the no d1ckhead policy. We took Hall, Aker, Winmar. We have Libba and Smith. A good club will try to get a good player and hopefully mold them into the club citizen that's required.

 

[Chalky White]

Jimmy Rowe will be a walk up start to our midfield

Are you having a laugh or do you mean the VFL?

 

[Libbaaaa]

Nobody has a clue what’s happening which is why me thinks it’s his manager just trying to get a few more dollars out of the dogs.

His manager is Liam Pickering after all, fairly certain he is a known source of Edmund too.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

This happened yesterday, so maybe she is laughing at my comment cos she knows something haha

Who is Paris Dunkley?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Sam Edmund said this today

Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs)

“So hard to read this.

“I’ve come and gone with this, yesterday my confidence had well and truly cracked.

“The Brisbane offer is close to comparable for Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

, it’s not like Brisbane have blown the Dogs off the water.

“But the Port Adelaide offer, however, is a better one financially, that’s the superior offer and that’s the temptation.

“Internally, he’s super invested, I’m told he’s engaged and he’s behaving like a player that will be there for the long-term.

“But we won’t know until the Dogs’ season is finished either way.

“From their (the Western Bulldogs’) mind, they’re as comfortable as you can be when a key player hasn’t re-signed.”

 

[Chalky White]

Only one I’d love is Ridley.

I would take Redman, Merrett, Parish, Ridley, Draper, Jones, Hobbs, Cox, Perkins, Wright and Martin.

There is some good young talent. Not a great deal of mature players I would take

 

[BLACAE]

Yeah fair, I’d take Pick 8 minimum for Dunks and just be done with it (should he request a trade, I’d prefer to keep him) but think his value should be higher considering what other good but not great mids have commanded in the past

Lobbs such a hard one, I’m really questioning whether we should be going for that anymore. I know Darcy’s going to be up & down and it won’t be all smooth sailing from here but I think he’s shown enough to say he should play most weeks going forward even if he goes through some quiet patches etc

And bringing in Lobb effectively locks him out of that forward line for a minimum of 2 years. If we’re happy to build around him in defence for that time then great but it’s a big decision.

Getting Lobb and Jones allows a couple of things things:

1. Jones is our nr 1 defender with Gards nr 2. Darcy then becomes a 205+ cm intercepting wall in defence for two years.
3. Lobb allows a solid and 208+ cm target up forward and allows us to continue to contend now with Naughts getting 2nd defender and Marra getting the third.
4. On dry days with a smaller oppo attack, Darcy can also push forward with him and Lobb on either side of the Goal square leading up and Naughts and Marra high forwards who can push up high and run back as both are quick for their size. That ball shouldn't hit the ground, but if it does, a deep press should hopefully keep it in there.

As an example. Geelong are the likely premiers this year and towel us up every bloody time.

We could have a forward line like this:

....................I....I
...............I....I....I....I
...............I....I....I....I

.............Darcy Lobb

Naughts Flea West Marra



In defence we could have:
Jones on Hawkins
Gards on Cameron
Cordy on Ceglar (Resting ruck)
Williams on Rohan
Duryea on Stengle
Richards on Close

English does what English does and intercepts in defence and moves forward to attack. I don't care what anyone says, that forward line will scare the s**t out of you. If we get a KPD in the Draft, they have time to build up and take over from Jones.




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[Deadly Darcy]

Sam Edmund said this today

Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs)

“So hard to read this.

“I’ve come and gone with this, yesterday my confidence had well and truly cracked.

“The Brisbane offer is close to comparable for Josh Dunkley, it’s not like Brisbane have blown the Dogs off the water.

“But the Port Adelaide offer, however, is a better one financially, that’s the superior offer and that’s the temptation.

“Internally, he’s super invested, I’m told he’s engaged and he’s behaving like a player that will be there for the long-term.

“But we won’t know until the Dogs’ season is finished either way.

“From their (the Western Bulldogs’) mind, they’re as comfortable as you can be when a key player hasn’t re-signed.”

Probably Sydney bound the way this is playing out! Pickering pulling another quiet deal in the dark….

 

[Northernsoul74]

Getting Lobb and Jones allows a couple of things things:

1. Jones is our nr 1 defender with Gards nr 2. Darcy then becomes a 205+ cm intercepting wall in defence for two years.
3. Lobb allows a solid and 208+ cm target up forward and allows us to continue to contend now with Naughts getting 2nd defender and Marra getting the third.
4. On dry days with a smaller oppo attack, Darcy can also push forward with him and Lobb on either side of the Goal square leading up and Naughts and Marra high forwards who can push up high and run back as both are quick for their size. That ball shouldn't hit the ground, but if it does, a deep press should hopefully keep it in there.

As an example. Geelong are the likely premiers this year and towel us up every bloody time.

We could have a forward line like this:

....................I....I
...............I....I....I....I
...............I....I....I....I

.............Darcy Lobb

Naughts Flea West Marra



In defence we could have:
Jones on Hawkins
Gards on Cameron
Cordy on Ceglar (Resting ruck)
Williams on Rohan
Duryea on Stengle
Richards on Close

English does what English does and intercepts in defence and moves forward to attack. I don't care what anyone says, that forward line will scare the s**t out of you. If we get a KPD in the Draft, they have time to build up and take over from Jones.




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Sounds great but we need some seriously quick and clever smalls to compliment that.

 

[cleveland]

Who is Paris Dunkley?

Assuming a relative of some sort.

 

[BLACAE]

Sounds great but we need some seriously quick and clever smalls to compliment that.

Agree.

• Weightman needs to relearn his role.
• West can do it and get midfield time.
• Rowe seems to know where he needs to be.
• If we can get one in the draft or if Arthur comes along he can do it too.

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[Bushdid911]

Dunks is probably our form mid at the moment, so has the right to see if he can add any $ to his contract in finals. Get yourself that Norm Smith and that JJ type pay rise i say

 

[LittleG]

Geelong expected to get Grundy.

Pies to pay ~$200K per annum for 3 years, as part of an updated contract. Trade doesn’t involve a first round pick going to the Pies.

This is the sort of money ball move we could as a club look at. Although it would mean 2 elite mobile ruckman, I would rather Grundy doing a 50/50 split with English, than Lobb doing a 20/80 ruck split with English.

We got Treloar for unders and Grundy is certainly going to go for unders.

 

[adogsfan5]

Geelong expected to get Grundy.

Pies to pay ~$200K per annum for 3 years, as part of an updated contract. Trade doesn’t involve a first round pick going to the Pies.

This is the sort of money ball move we could as a club look at. Although it would mean 2 elite mobile ruckman, I would rather Grundy doing a 50/50 split with English, than Lobb doing a 20/80 ruck split with English.

We got Treloar for unders and Grundy is certainly going to go for unders.

Bevo hates ruckman though. Imagine him having to deal with Grundy and English? Grundy would end up at CHB.

 

[flipper83]

Geelong expected to get Grundy.

Pies to pay ~$200K per annum for 3 years, as part of an updated contract. Trade doesn’t involve a first round pick going to the Pies.

This is the sort of money ball move we could as a club look at. Although it would mean 2 elite mobile ruckman, I would rather Grundy doing a 50/50 split with English, than Lobb doing a 20/80 ruck split with English.

We got Treloar for unders and Grundy is certainly going to go for unders.

Geelong deal probably includes 5 million in property off the books

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Sam Edmund said this today

Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs)

“So hard to read this.

“I’ve come and gone with this, yesterday my confidence had well and truly cracked.

“The Brisbane offer is close to comparable for Josh Dunkley, it’s not like Brisbane have blown the Dogs off the water.

“But the Port Adelaide offer, however, is a better one financially, that’s the superior offer and that’s the temptation.

“Internally, he’s super invested, I’m told he’s engaged and he’s behaving like a player that will be there for the long-term.

“But we won’t know until the Dogs’ season is finished either way.

“From their (the Western Bulldogs’) mind, they’re as comfortable as you can be when a key player hasn’t re-signed.”

I like to see tomorrow's headline Bulldogs slam dunk a new contract for Josh.

 

[Dale4captain]

Geelong expected to get Grundy.

Pies to pay ~$200K per annum for 3 years, as part of an updated contract. Trade doesn’t involve a first round pick going to the Pies.

This is the sort of money ball move we could as a club look at. Although it would mean 2 elite mobile ruckman, I would rather Grundy doing a 50/50 split with English, than Lobb doing a 20/80 ruck split with English.

We got Treloar for unders and Grundy is certainly going to go for unders.

What happens to the rest of his contract? He forfeits it? Unlikely. If pies are paying 600k across three years, it still leaves 4.4million on the table.

 

[Cudi]

Why are Collingwood pushing Grundy out? Cameron has been good but Grundy is so much better plus Cameron then plays Cox role when he is back.

Is their cap tight again?? I feel like I've missed something where all of a sudden they are desperate to get rid of him and will even pay 300k of his contract.

 

[Bazza28]

Bevo hates ruckman though. Imagine him having to deal with Grundy and English? Grundy would end up at CHB.

Grundy is exactly the type of ruckman that bevo likes one who can find his own footy.

 

[jdz101]

Why are Collingwood pushing Grundy out? Cameron has been good but Grundy is so much better plus Cameron then plays Cox role when he is back.

Is their cap tight again?? I feel like I've missed something where all of a sudden they are desperate to get rid of him and will even pay 300k of his contract.

Its a really dumb move. They've basically painted "damaged goods" on his chest and then said they want to trade him.

A good way to get very little value back in return for an elite player....overpaid or not.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Why are Collingwood pushing Grundy out? Cameron has been good but Grundy is so much better plus Cameron then plays Cox role when he is back.

Is their cap tight again?? I feel like I've missed something where all of a sudden they are desperate to get rid of him and will even pay 300k of his contract.

I think they want to bring in Tarranto and McStay and don't have the cash to bring in both.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Geelong expected to get Grundy.

Pies to pay ~$200K per annum for 3 years, as part of an updated contract. Trade doesn’t involve a first round pick going to the Pies.

This is the sort of money ball move we could as a club look at. Although it would mean 2 elite mobile ruckman, I would rather Grundy doing a 50/50 split with English, than Lobb doing a 20/80 ruck split with English.

We got Treloar for unders and Grundy is certainly going to go for unders.

Where are you hearing this?

 

[Chops]

Bevo hates ruckman though. Imagine him having to deal with Grundy and English? Grundy would end up at CHB.

That's where English should play or CHF, Grundy is x10 better. We are recruiting Lobb as Forward/ruck when English is a better version of that.

 

[ScragCity]

Cats will get both Grundy and Mundy; collectively known as The Undies

 

[LittleG]

Where are you hearing this?

Source from a different club. He is a Grundy fan and would have liked him at his club. Not to be.