Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Doggy]

Can't lose Smith and Busslinger

 

[Dog 36]

Can't lose Smith and Busslinger

Gotta keep both

 

[BLACAE]

What do people know/think about Ash Johnson? How is his tank? Is that something that can be worked on? He's real quick, so I'm wondering if he could work on his endurance and disposal. He has the attributes to be a good wingman.

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[ScragCity]

If we want to boost our midfield could we not trade Arty Jones for Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

?

 

[House_of_Dahl]

If we want to boost our midfield could we not trade Arty Jones for Chad Warner?

Would need to add Gulden

 

[Dogs Rule]

If we want to boost our midfield could we not trade Arty Jones for Chad Warner?

Not enough. Need more than Warner.

 

[yebach]

If Libba is retired and we lose Baz. I'd throw the kitchen sink at LDU. I read somewhere here he's a free agent.

 

[Testekill]

If Libba is retired and we lose Baz. I'd throw the kitchen sink at LDU. I read somewhere here he's a free agent.

He's a restricted free agent next year

 

[CarnTheScray]

If Libba is retired and we lose Baz. I'd throw the kitchen sink at LDU. I read somewhere here he's a free agent.

He has looked average sometimes this year, don’t know how much of that is Norf getting to him or not.

 

[VitalDread]

What do people know/think about Ash Johnson? How is his tank? Is that something that can be worked on? He's real quick, so I'm wondering if he could work on his endurance and disposal. He has the attributes to be a good wingman.

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I really like Ash buts he's more of a forward
Unless Marra moves up the ground
He wouldn't get a game

 

[cherrypie]

If Libba is retired and we lose Baz. I'd throw the kitchen sink at LDU. I read somewhere here he's a free agent.

Ew. Don’t think we need a slow mid who racks up low impact touches - probably won’t be cheap either

 

[threenewpadlocks]

The poster is openly admitting that it's fourth hand info re Libba and people are believing it?

What we do know about concussions is that they want to wait a period of time to make a decision one way or another. It's only been a couple of weeks. It's impossible to know if his recovery is good or bad either way because he simply hasn't spent time recovering. Retirement would come with a failure to recover or risks that become apparent over a longer period of time.

 

[doggy_dog]

Ew. Don’t think we need a slow mid who racks up low impact touches - probably won’t be cheap either

Slow and low impact is definitely not how I’d describe LDU. Down on form this year but guy is a gun

 

[yebach]

Ew. Don’t think we need a slow mid who racks up low impact touches - probably won’t be cheap either

Slow & low impact. I think we're watching different players.

 

[Mofra]

Slow and low impact is definitely not how I’d describe LDU. Down on form this year but guy is a gun

I'm expecting the Saints to throw stupid money at him. $1.5m pa money, they have cap and little class in the centre.

 

[Chalky White]

Gardner has a long contract still. He isn't going anywhere. Baker and poulter also contracted and not going anywhere.

They shouldn't be contracted for long periods. One year deal types.

 

[Mojorisin]

They shouldn't be

Poulter has alot of upside, he was our best footscray signing and is exactly how we should should use the last spot on our list.

 

[King Harold]

Poulter has alot of upside, he was our best footscray signing and is exactly how we should should use the last spot on our list.

He was very so so the week before.
Needs to keep improving to make it,
Ok depth for now.

 

[Munnez]

If Libba is retired and we lose Baz. I'd throw the kitchen sink at LDU. I read somewhere here he's a free agent.

Pre agent this year I think so would need to trade for him this year. Free agent next year but would be restricted due to the money he is on.

 

[Lex22]

Slow and low impact is definitely not how I’d describe LDU. Down on form this year but guy is a gun

Slow & low impact. I think we're watching different players.

LDU has a terrific Robert Harvey-esque step but cherrypie is spot on - he’s slow.

He’s not what we need.

 

[lachy]

If we are talking about throwing the sink at LDU, after throwing up at the thought, why not just make sure B Smith signs for 3 years.

Unless Buss is severely homesick he is clearly being groomed and coming along nicely in a team that is more likely to bring him success in the next 3 to 5 years why would he want to leave.

We have room in our cap make it harder for him to leave, unless homesickness is affecting him.

His enthusiasm when players are making debuts and all footage of him he seems more than happy



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[TurnerBuoy]

The idea a team handing us their F1 for pick 13 last was a “choice” we declined is even more unlikely and speculative than the scenarios you’re criticising. During the trade period, not a single R1 for F1 pick swap was executed. And other than ours, there was only one F1 traded in a pick swap and Port’s F1 only netted them two second rounders, pick 23 and an F2.



The trade isn’t just a mathematical equation you can run on an abacus. There was a distinct risk in not trading 13. Given the likelihood of a Croft bid before 13 and the risk attached with not trading it, it’s probably fairer to view the scenario as using 13 on Croft and the trade as 23 and F1 for 6.

You also have to factor in the bird in the hand aspect. We knew we would get Sanders or Watson at 6. It wasn’t a speculative trade. It was a trade for one of two specific players. Both distinct needs and also, evidently, very good.

Cannot believe some of the things I see on this forum. A risk in not trading a draft pick.

You can split hairs over what scenarios are realistic or unrealistic but at the end of the day, it's stupid to trade a future first pick when you don't know where your club's at and your coaching situation is unstable.
Also you can't convince me there aren't gentlemen's agreements going on behind the scenes if GWS can get Tom Green with pick 10 when he was rated a top 3 prospect in his draft year.

 

[TurnerBuoy]

Croft would have definitely been bid on before 13. GWS took crows pick before dogs pick and if dogs had held onto their pick would have bidded on Croft. GWS took Gothard that pick which wasn't rated that high in rankings next to Croft. I also don't doubt Essendon bidding on Croft like they did taking Lual before dogs could start matching bids.

 

[Chalky White]

Poulter has alot of upside, he was our best footscray signing and is exactly how we should should use the last spot on our list.

Now if you read the post.....I said he shouldn't be signed up to a long term contract. I have no issue with him getting 1-2 year deals. He shouldn't be getting anymore than that. Having cloggers getting 3-4 years irks me massively.
Because, they have no value on the trade table and are not going to be pursued by other teams unless delisted.
Duryea who has been a fine player for the club has been going with one year deals, i'm not sure why Poulter can't.
If you think Poulter has lots of upside then good luck to you. He is always going to be a fringe player, he will have the odd good game but won't ever be a regular whilst we are a contender. He may if we become a basketcase like Richmond or North.
I hope you are right but I just don't see it. Collingwood didn't see it either and they are experts at turning average ability players into really good role players.
The proof will be in the pudding i guess.

 

[Chalky White]

He was very so so the week before.
Needs to keep improving to make it,
Ok depth for now.

Yes agree. But not on long term deals Harold.