Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[Guido]

You do realise that by the time we traded up we knew exactly who pick 6 was going to be. All the list managers and recruiters know exactly who the other is taking, and it's been like that for years. They are all very complimentary to each other as it helps all out.

I know this is the case for some picks in some drafts, but a few too many recruiter heads flinging back/saying ****! under their breath/very disappointed looks at their booth (because their guy got swooped on) during the coverage for this to be across all picks.

I spoke with a 2IC at another club (went on to be a head recruiter) the day after we picked up Howard with our first rounder, and their recruiting department didn't see it coming at all - "we didn't have him (Howard) in our top 50".

And in many cases, the clubs themselves don't 100% know who they're taking - Hawthorn took 2 minutes and requested an extra 2 minutes for the Franklin and Lewis picks in 2004.

 

[Doggies7]

You do realise that by the time we traded up we knew exactly who pick 6 was going to be. All the list managers and recruiters know exactly who the other is taking, and it's been like that for years. They are all very complimentary to each other as it helps all out.

Yeah i've argued this with people a few times, i've given up now. We would have loved Watson, but we knew early on (like everyone else and according to Cal's Phantom Drafts at the time) the Hawks were expected to go with the Wizard. It was pretty well known a while out from the draft that's who they were tanking, and we were trading up for Sanders.

 

[TommyD13]

haha what?

I suggested that as a joke three months ago. Why bring this up now?

‘‘Twas a joke about Zak Butters property in Darley lol

 

[Anja_Nees]

I know this is the case for some picks in some drafts, but a few too many recruiter heads flinging back/saying ****! under their breath/very disappointed looks at their booth (because their guy got swooped on) during the coverage for this to be across all picks.

I spoke with a 2IC at another club (went on to be a head recruiter) the day after we picked up Howard with our first rounder, and their recruiting department didn't see it coming at all - "we didn't have him (Howard) in our top 50".

And in many cases, the clubs themselves don't 100% know who they're taking - Hawthorn took 2 minutes and requested an extra 2 minutes for the Franklin and Lewis picks in 2004.

I spoke to a recruiter from another club in the year we took Bont and he said they thought it was a massive gamble. Obvious upside but based on short run of form and they thought late first round at best.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Cmon Dogs do something im bored

 

[doggy_dog]

Yeah i've argued this with people a few times, i've given up now. We would have loved Watson, but we knew early on (like everyone else and according to Cal's Phantom Drafts at the time) the Hawks were expected to go with the Wizard. It was pretty well known a while out from the draft that's who they were tanking, and we were trading up for Sanders.

It was 50/50 at absolute best that Watson would still be there (and even that’s being generous). There’s no chance we do the trade a month before the draft on a 50/50 proposition if Watson was our target

 

[Salad dog]

On the Sanders vs. Watson debate, I thought the main reason to do the trade wasn’t about targeting a player but to get ahead of the Croft bid?

That was the first draft I really properly followed. I remember it was Harley Reid universal #1, then Kerch, Duursma, Walter(tied) & Watson rounding out a clear top 5.

Rumours that Eagles wanted the WA prospect Curtin and if they did a trade with North, one of those top 5 would have fallen to us. That didn’t happen and we ended up having a choice of the second tier who were all rated fairly even (Sanders, Windsor, Curtin, Caddy, O’Sullivan)

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I know this is the case for some picks in some drafts, but a few too many recruiter heads flinging back/saying ****! under their breath/very disappointed looks at their booth (because their guy got swooped on) during the coverage for this to be across all picks.

I spoke with a 2IC at another club (went on to be a head recruiter) the day after we picked up Howard with our first rounder, and their recruiting department didn't see it coming at all - "we didn't have him (Howard) in our top 50".

And in many cases, the clubs themselves don't 100% know who they're taking - Hawthorn took 2 minutes and requested an extra 2 minutes for the Franklin and Lewis picks in 2004.

Of course, in the past and in later picks, that's true.

But it was very common knowledge that Watson was being picked up pick 5 by the Hawks and widely reported before we executed that trade.

Perhaps we started negotiations before Hawks had firmed but we almost certainly knew pick 6 would be Sanders before the trade.

 

[goodcop badcop]

You do realise that by the time we traded up we knew exactly who pick 6 was going to be. All the list managers and recruiters know exactly who the other is taking, and it's been like that for years. They are all very complimentary to each other as it helps all out.

With a month and half out from the draft? I don't believe this. They may have a good idea but at this point nothing's sure. It was reported that Sam Mitchell was meeting with Curtin and Duursma with a couple weeks to go in the draft. It was also reported that Clarkson was meeting with Curtin. Why would they do that if it was all set it stone?

 

[House_of_Dahl]

The stupid thing about the Watson Sanders debate is that we were clearly happy to take either. The top 4 were obvious and it was super clear it would be one of these two - either of which we were happy to do the trade for.

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

Why didn’t we take Curtin? He was tipped to go no 1 by many.

 

[weltschmerz]

Why didn’t we take Curtin? He was tipped to go no 1 by many.

He was viewed as a major flight risk and he didn’t have a best position.

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

He was viewed as a major flight risk and he didn’t have a best position.

So we chose Sanders…….

Who Tasmania are going to poach and we are playing out of position.

Curtin didn’t have a best position because he was good no matter where he played. Hardly a problem for the Crows.

 

[Salad dog]

Why didn’t we take Curtin? He was tipped to go no 1 by many.

This wasn’t the case at all

 

[Addy23]

Someone from twitter linking us to Ollie lord on the bulldogs facebook forum . Saying we will use him as a key defender.

Don’t know how legit it is just passing on the info

As a Port fan, I have come across this bloke on Twitter and he's full of nonsense. So take it with 2 buckets of salt.

Lord can't play KPD. Has played like 2 games there and half a season in SANFL there and he was terrible.

 

[redmania]

Time to get busy

 

[Struggle]

And people say AI is going to take over, everyone knows Sam Power

Sam Power

Age

42

Ht

190cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

doesn't blink

 

[geoffjennings79]

Why aren't we linked to Oliver/Curnow/Petracca/Ugle-Hagan/Merrett?

WTF is San Powers doing?! Recruit someone, farken!

 

[Libbaaaa]

Why aren't we linked to Oliver/Curnow/Petracca/Ugle-Hagan/Merrett?

WTF is San Powers doing?! Recruit someone, farken!

What would it take to get Jamarra to the Dogs?

 

[Insert Username Here]

Why aren't we linked to Oliver/Curnow/Petracca/Ugle-Hagan/Merrett?

WTF is San Powers doing?! Recruit someone, farken!

If we recruit Jamarra, then maybe we could send Naughton into defence

 

[St 07]

Time to get busy

Man I gotta get his skin routine

 

[geoffjennings79]

What would it take to get Jamarra to the Dogs?

A better boxing gym?!

 

[Struggle]

What would it take to get Jamarra to the Dogs?

Training sessions at 5am so he doesn't have to wake up to attend

 

[grassman75]

If we recruit Jamarra, then maybe we could send Naughton into defence

Welcome aboard Alt whoever you are

 

[BrisDog]

What would it take to get Jamarra to the Dogs?

Cancel any sort of intensity, period.