Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[Angak]

Pick 7 for Flanders is funny

Tom Morris said on radio this morning that recruiters have told him this is one of the worst drafts they have ever seen.

 

[VitalDread]

A lot of AFL Clubs have caught up the bad NBA teams in terms of salary spending

 

[adogsfan5]

Could the saints fit Flanders on $900k PLUS a pay rise for Wilkie?

 

[Munnez]

Literally outbidding everyone by a fair margin on multiple players lol..

And they aren't even star players they are solid role players to maybe B graders this couldn't possibly go pear shaped

 

[Doggy]

Tom Morris said on radio this morning that recruiters have told him this is one of the worst drafts they have ever seen.

Perhaps, but there will still be good players, especially that high up.

They're only doing this to keep NWM beyond 2027, such a stupid strategy to risk it all for one player

They are complaining about Father Sons and academies but are giving GC a high draft pick to pay for their Academies

 

[BLACAE]

I would, if he was happy with one, throw a rookie lifeline at Mitchell. People will hate it but I have always rated him like Libba. Both have limitations, but they are great at what they do and set up the users.

23 Touches
6 Tackles
5 Score involvements
3 Clearances

He could play a role like Kennedy does.

That being said, I think the Roos, WCE, or Essendon, would be crazy to not look at him.

 

[adogsfan5]

I would, if he was happy with one, throw a rookie lifeline at Mitchell. People will hate it but I have always rated him like Libba. Both have limitations, but they are great at what they do and set up the users.

23 Touches
6 Tackles
5 Score involvements
3 Clearances

He could play a role like Kennedy does.

That being said, I think the Roos, WCE, or Essendon, would be crazy to not look at him.

He’ll just take sanders minutes.
Slow, can’t play fwd, no thanks.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Could the saints fit Flanders on $900k PLUS a pay rise for Wilkie?

At this rate with their KFC approach, if you walk past Moorabbin upright and breathing you'll get a $900k contract.

Come on Cal, it's time.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Gardner been given the flick yet?

He has a contract.

At most would be delisted and rookied. Given his great VFL form I think they’ll just leave as is. Might play a few games if we’re hit with injuries.

 

[Mofra]

Could the saints fit Flanders on $900k PLUS a pay rise for Wilkie?

They can 105 next year. I'm sure they're fine.
We need to be more aggressive.

 

[Mojorisin]

Surely it had to end with a Wilkie pay rise or trade request

He won't publicly request a trade if a deal isn't atleast on the table. Saints at this stage still refusing to budge on his deal but also not entertaining a trade. They're relying on him not being the type to blow things out publicly and professional enough to play on knowing he is foregoing a huge increase, seems at this stage he is prepared to do that. Either way we will know next week.

 

[immortalmike]

Why did he decide he was the easier of the three to lose?

Least flexible in case of injury. JOD can play anywhere and Lobb can Ruck. Pretty logical I would have thought.

Buss was easily our best defender on the day.

 

[Doggy]

He won't publicly request a trade if a deal isn't atleast on the table. Saints at this stage still refusing to budge on his deal but also not entertaining a trade. They're relying on him not being the type to blow things out publicly and professional enough to play on knowing he is foregoing a huge increase, seems at this stage he is prepared to do that. Either way we will know next week.

He's not too bright then

 

[CDBulldog]

We have been spoiled with having Naughts come in and impact from Season 1. This is not at all usual for KPP especially those that aren't exceptionally athletically gifted.
Richmond's Dynasty backline took time from the time they were drafted to becoming the players they eventually were.

Some patience is going to be required but it just maybe worth the weight. We most certainly need a FB Anchor and hopefully Sammy will come through. I see signs with both JOD and Buss.
Buss impressed me in the VFL Grand Final, in the last quarter. When the pressure was at it's most intense he led out took the mark under defensive heat. Then had the mental composure to go back and calm himself and slot the goal under a lot of situational pressure.

That is something that can't be taught you either have it or you don't. If Buss makes it won't be because he is an athletic freak. It will be because of his ability to read the game. And be in the right spot at the right time ala Weitering. Think he just needs to live in the gym for the next 2-3 Off Seasons

I couldn’t be more confident that Buss will be a very good full back. I watched him closely this season in the vfl in particular. Reads the play very well, holds his position well (doesn’t get lost like Gardner or Lewis Young used to) has good disposal and has a good amount of competitiveness. Don’t worry about the speed, lots of quality kpd are slow. In the right system Buss will be more than just ok. Bookmark it.

 

[BLACAE]

He’ll just take sanders minutes.
Slow, can’t play fwd, no thanks.

That's a fair call

 

[immortalmike]

I would, if he was happy with one, throw a rookie lifeline at Mitchell. People will hate it but I have always rated him like Libba. Both have limitations, but they are great at what they do and set up the users.

23 Touches
6 Tackles
5 Score involvements
3 Clearances

He could play a role like Kennedy does.

That being said, I think the Roos, WCE, or Essendon, would be crazy to not look at him.

What are Libba's limitations?

 

[Angak]

Perhaps, but there will still be good players, especially that high up.

They're only doing this to keep NWM beyond 2027, such a stupid strategy to risk it all for one player

They are complaining about Father Sons and academies but are giving GC a high draft pick to pay for their Academies

If it turns out to be anything like the 2020 draft, you want to get out of it quickly. Maybe take a few chances in the back half of the draft.

 

[Doggy]

If it turns out to be anything like the 2020 draft, you want to get out of it quickly. Maybe take a few chances in the back half of the draft.
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The dogs aren't trading out so...

 

[Mofra]

What are Libba's limitations?

Libba isn't great outside of midfield duties.

And he struggles on opponents who are a little quicker than Brad Hill.

 

[BLACAE]

What are Libba's limitations?

Speed - Generally, although he did catch Hill (no one expected that)

Penetration on disposal - particularly by foot.

Burst speed - Getting away from congestion.

Every player has limitations, even The Bont, the good ones overcome them by excelling in other areas. The good coaches, give the player the opportunity to.

 

[Munnez]

He's not too bright then

Would be surprising if a 29 yo would leave 1.8m on the table over 4 years unless Saints revised his contract. For all the splashing of cash not enough needle movers to put them in contention for a flag.

With us he could be the missing ingredient and pick up an extra 1.8m over 4 would have to be very tempting. Tuesday we will know one way or three other

 

[Doggy]

Speed - Generally, although he did catch Hill (no one expected that)

Penetration on disposal - particularly by foot.

Burst speed - Getting away from congestion.

Every player has limitations, even The Bont, the good ones overcome them by excelling in other areas. The good coaches, give the player the opportunity to.

Yeah, but he can kick goals in Asia

 

[Doggy]

Would be surprising if a 29 yo would leave 1.8m on the table over 4 years unless Saints revised his contract. For all the splashing of cash not enough needle movers to put them in contention for a flag.

With us he could be the missing ingredient and pick up an extra 1.8m over 4 would have to be very tempting. Tuesday we will know one way or three other

We won't get him let's be honest. The Saints are insulted that we even tried

 

[Munnez]

We won't get him let's be honest. The Saints are insulted that we even tried

The longer it drugs out the less confident I would be as a Saints supporter. Chances are he stays but will have cost the Saints 300-400k to appease him. And when it all fails apart at some point as there isn't enough high end quality they are bringing in will be hilarious

 

[Bulldogs85]

He won't publicly request a trade if a deal isn't atleast on the table. Saints at this stage still refusing to budge on his deal but also not entertaining a trade. They're relying on him not being the type to blow things out publicly and professional enough to play on knowing he is foregoing a huge increase, seems at this stage he is prepared to do that. Either way we will know next week.

Hopefully the club is working on a back up pain don’t think Sam Power would be silly enough to put all the eggs into the Wilkie bucket