Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[Pocket Terrace]

Fritsch could be worth looking at.
We could throw him to half back as a rebounding defender like we did with Hannan for a month.
Low-cost and flexibility is our go.

 

[Mofra]

He only played 7 games so whilst is a good average isn't enough data

Given the form before injury and after injury, from a cost vs output point of view I was a big fan. He definitely passed the eyeball test too.

I was wary of the huge cost of Wilkie, as good as he is.

We did offer a large deal to JSoS too so we clearly view a mature KPD as a position of need.

We wanted one, and we didn't get one. That's where we're at. It's fine to not bring in a scrub for the sake of it, but we still have to be honest with what we wanted and what we ended up with.

 

[Dogs Ball]

Thats a disappointing post. Possibly one of the last chances to use Butts in a joke.
You could have gone with 'We don't like big Butts I cannot lie'

Butt we have a gaping hole!

(I've been waiting to use that since talks about Jordon began.)

 

[Mojorisin]

isnt it like 5 of the top 10 are like academy/father sons

it seems rare one of those other 5 is gonna be worth the what 4 slot improvement

I wasn't including the club tied players only those we could actually get. Uwland, Patterson and Annable all likely top tem with Dean also a chance for top 10. There will be a fair few more bids in the second half of the first round.

 

[Dogs Rule]

What's that saying about standing still?

We stand still.

While others clubs address their needs, we don't, hoping all will just work itself out next year.

Bit tiring to be honest.

 

[HK_Bulldog]

From the games I’ve seen, Buss plays more like a #1 than an intercept defender. He hasn’t got the speed or agility needed for an interceptor. Seems to have a good brain and is safe with ball in hand which are useful for #1. Obviously needs to get stronger and better at 1:1’s but I would develop him as a last line anchor.

 

[weltschmerz]

I thought we took a big shot at a contracted oppo player and made him an offer that’s very hard to refuse? Apparently we never do that and we’re failures for that reason. “Why don’t we do what Geelong does” we did, the Saints said no as is their right

 

[Mofra]

What's that saying about standing still?

We stand still.

While others clubs address their needs, we don't, hoping all will just work itself out next year.

Bit tiring to be honest.

I see us as having two clear needs.

We've addressed one (small defender), and missed one (deep KPD).

 

[Mutt]

So posters who understand the basic concept that to improve the team you need to bring in players that actually do that, and for that to happen they have to firstly be available or if not available will to break a contract and have there Club willing to do that trade, of which there are zero fitting that category as A Grade KPD's are as rare as hens teeth. Therefore the next option is to develop what you have and adjust your game plan accordingly.

Those posters are happy to be stuck with being between 8 to 12 on the ladder.

Really!!!

Maybe you should quote the offending posts rather than imply that this board is full of posters who can't "understand the basic concept...". These generalisations are pretty poor to be honest.

 

[Mofra]

From the games I’ve seen, Buss plays more like a #1 than an intercept defender. He hasn’t got the speed or agility needed for an interceptor. Seems to have a good brain and is safe with ball in hand which are useful for #1. Obviously needs to get stronger and better at 1:1’s but I would develop him as a last line anchor.

I agree, but he is realistically a few years off paying that role at AFL level.

 

[Selim]

I see us as having two clear needs.

We've addressed one (small defender), and missed one (deep KPD).

i reckon we need a better half forward aswell someone who is abit silky and can hit a target inside 50

 

[Mojorisin]

i reckon we need a better half forward aswell someone who is abit silky and can hit a target inside 50

Hopefully that is Dolan after a big pre season.

 

[Selim]

Hopefully that is Dolan after a big pre season.

still looked a few years off it from what we saw this year ngl but dont worry Lathiam will save us until then

 

[Foxman98]

Maybe you should quote the offending posts rather than imply that this board is full of posters who can't "understand the basic concept...". These generalisations are pretty poor to be honest.

Not sure what the issue is?

Is he not allowed to point out that to improve the team we need to bring in players that actually do that I.e Wilkie is clearly better then what we have without hitting reply to 15 different people saying we are standing still doing nothing?

 

[bresker]

It would be handy to have the big defender to take on the big power forward , but there's. No point throwing your toys out of the pram if the club can't magic one out of a handful of beans.

From the games i attended, the best big forward who dismantled our defence was Nick Larkey

20

Nick Larkey

Age

27

Ht

198cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

before an unfortunate injury. Very good player, is Larkey . Then I was very impressed with Thilthorpe. He's a natural.

But most of the time our defenders looked inept because they were caught out trying to defend space between 2 or 3 forwards . If we push everyone upfield and the ball ping-pongs back, poor old Lobb or JoD have to play piggy in the middle with the opposition bearing down on them. There are few one on ones the way we plsy.

It wasn't the hulking key forward who got us, it was kamikaze football.

Yes a Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

28

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

would be brilliant . But that won't happen. Club can't hold a gun to his head. We tried our best with Wilkie.

We got Dale Morris in the rookie draft . Ditto Matty Boyd. Shiggsy Hamiling and Roberts for nothing. And that's our Premership defence , a very very good defence.

Maybe we'll find one or two. Maybe they are already at the club.

Just hope someone at WO plays Bev the highlights reel & reminds him.

 

[Bulldog rick]

I don't know why everyone is worried about not getting a Key Defender this trade period. Have you all forgotten we have the current VFL fullback of the year just waiting to ply his craft.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Last year we had Jones and Duryea coming off insanely good seasons (even if Jones slowed down a little towards the end of 24’).

We had Fridge who was showing real promise down there as well.

Jones allowed JOD to play second fiddle and Lobb to just roam as a quick rangy interception player.

Lobb is not the number one guy. I repeat. Lobb is not the number one guy. We tried that this year and he was found out big time, specially during games where our midfield fell asleep. JoD is also not the number one guy. People are also forgetting that we drafted Buss as an intercept defender as at the time that’s what we were crying out for.

So between our “best season defence” where we had Jones, Duryea and Fridge who are now all gone from the backline, we have incredibly quickly devolved into having a defence that’s only better than North and West Coast.

It was very very clear halfway through this season that we needed not only a game play change but a change in personal, hence the revolving deck chairs of defenders and zero settled lineup. We should have been working on Plan A through Z for bringing in people we needed, instead SoS used us to get a huge contract from Daddy, plan B was a contracted future-Captain and there is no C.

But continue to be happy with being stuck between 8-12 on the ladder.

I’m not.

Tell us sensei.

And this is not the first time I asked this question.

What should we do and how we should go about it?

We've had a deadly serious offer in front of a contracted sub-elite KPD. In Wilkie

We've had a serious negotiations that many pundits hd us as favourites with a middling KPD. In Silvagni.

We've made enquires about an injury plagued but competent journeyman. In Butts.

We've looked at a washed sociopath in May.

If we're as desperate for anything just for the sake of anything. We may take a look at Aleer.

I dont doubt that there are any number of other KPD that we've enquired about during regular discussions between Power and the player managers that he deals with on a daily basis.

But somehow people who understand that the club just cant manifest an upgrade on what we currently have out of thin air. We are happy to be stuck between 8-12. We understand the frustration but it's asinine to imply that the club has been blithely sitting on its hands all year and not looking for solutions to an obvious issue.

 

[MaxiBont]

If we are confident in Buss, he needs to go to the oppositions best forward in R1.

Lobb and JoD need to play as interceptors.

 

[Mojorisin]

Blues trade 41 for Chesser, Khamis up next.

 

[Foxman98]

Tell us sensei.

And this is not the first time I asked this question.

What should we do and how we should go about it?

We've had a deadly serious offering in front of a contracted sub-elite KPD. In Wilkie

We've had a serious negotiations that many pundits hd us as favourites with a middling KPD. In Silvagni.

We've made enquires about an injury plagued but competent journeyman. In Butts.

We've looked at a washed sociopath in May.

If we're as desperate for anything just for the sake of anything. We may take a look at Aleer.

I dont doubt that there are any number of other KPD that we've enquired about during regular discussions between Power and the player managers that he deals with on a daily basis.

But somehow people who understand that the club just cant manifest an upgrade on what we currently have out of thin air. We are happy to be stuck between 8-12. We understand the frustration but it's asinine to imply that the club has been blithely sitting on its hands all year and not looking for solutions to an obvious issue.

This is why you are Lachy's hero

 

[dogwatch]

Might as well snooze this board till the draft

Of course it's very possible Regan may have a cunning plan or two that he doesn't want to reveal. Why would he be so dumb as to show all his cards on Trade Radio?

On that off-chance you are going to have to stay switched on until the end of the trade period, VD.
Sorry.

 

[Selim]

If we are confident in Buss, he needs to go to the oppositions best forward in R1.

Lobb and JoD need to play as interceptors.

ngl when ever i saw Buss he kinda always looked abit Unco and awkward but will be happily proven wrong

 

[Libbaaaa]

Chesser to the Blues for #41 and Ainsworth with their future 2nd and Durdin going to Port.

JSOS compo pick or nothing for Buku.

 

[Selim]

Of course it's very possible Regan may have a cunning plan or two that he doesn't want to reveal. Why would he be so dumb as to show all his cards on Trade Radio?

On that off-chance you are going to have to stay switched on until the end of the trade period, VD.
Sorry.

there has to be a plan for the potential pick 6 ngl

 

[The Inbetweener]

Blues trade 41 for Chesser, Khamis up next.

They are also trading their future 2nd in the Ainsworth trade, which makes it more challenging. Can really only happen now for a pick upgrade.