Trade hypotheticals

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Lose value as soon as they are drafted. It takes more than a year to increase past what they were drafted at

Sometimes its better to think before you post ( just quietly)

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

I suppose that true.

I dont know. I wouldn't trade 9 and 29 for Aish because I haven't heard any big wraps on him. Not like Bonti and Taylor. But maybe I'm wrong

Aish will be good. predict better then Taylor imo

 

[GROTTO]

We wont be rolling over on a contracted player holding a gun to our head. Thats why we hav given them until friday to come up with an offer.

Then we will start dealing with GC, his father lives on the gold coast afterall

You will have to roll over, the Lions are giving you pick 4 and maybe a sweetner. Be grateful and respect the plight of a player who wants to be with his father and dont hold him to ransom.

It will be an ugly look for the Pies if Beams sits out a year, but he will walk for nothing to the Lions.

 

[ksardog]

U worry about your mob and i will worry about mine. Ok?

 

[GROTTO]

U worry about your mob and i will worry about mine. Ok?

Swan is getting older and Pendles wont have much help around him. Dark days loom for the Pies soon. Like the good old days of the late 90s.

Pies are in a rebuilding mode.

 

[Prochard123]

Scharenberg*

You're a ******* Pies supporter, dude!

Just an example ..
Just to make u feel better
Scharenberg was a steal at 6, as he was number 2 in terms if talent. Clubs have taken his injury concerns during the draft, so on talent and potential alone he's still worth a top 6 pick as it negates his injuries. However this still depends on whether he can recover well or not

 

[bloke_]

Just an example ..
Just to make u feel better
Scharenberg was a steal at 6, as he was number 2 in terms if talent. Clubs have taken his injury concerns during the draft, so on talent and potential alone he's still worth a top 6 pick as it negates his injuries. However this still depends on whether he can recover well or not

I think he's upset at the fact you can't spell his name

 

[aussierulesrules]

You will have to roll over, the Lions are giving you pick 4 and maybe a sweetner. Be grateful and respect the plight of a player who wants to be with his father and dont hold him to ransom.

It will be an ugly look for the Pies if Beams sits out a year, but he will walk for nothing to the Lions.

You could flip that around the other way though and say that Brisbane should be grateful and thank their lucky stars that someone as good as Beams is going to land in their lap for at the very least a fair value and yet they look to be trying to take advantage of this "plight" to rip Collingwood off. Pick 4/5 is nowhere near enough.

If Beams sits out the year it will be as much Brisbane's fault as Collingwood's, if not more, as they have a very good opportunity to get him for what would be a fair amount, which will still be a big win for them, especially since pick 5 this year looks like a bit of a "lottery".

If I were Beams and Brisbane didn't offer Collingwood a fair value for me and as a result the deal fell through I'd be just as filthy with them as I would be with Collingwood, if not more so and may be just as happy to go elsewhere in 12 months time, when circumstances could of course be much different.

 

[Prochard123]

I think he's upset at the fact you can't spell his name

Oh well I'm on my phone and it autocorrcted to what I typed before

 

[ksardog]

Swan is getting older and Pendles wont have much help around him. Dark days loom for the Pies soon. Like the good old days of the late 90s.

Pies are in a rebuilding mode.

U finished?

 

[GROTTO]

U finished?

No definitely not yet. The biggest mistake the Pies made was dumping MM for Buckley and they have been paying for it ever since.

 

[GROTTO]

You could flip that around the other way though and say that Brisbane should be grateful and thank their lucky stars that someone as good as Beams is going to land in their lap for at the very least a fair value and yet they look to be trying to take advantage of this "plight" to rip Collingwood off. Pick 4/5 is nowhere near enough.
.

The Lions had been screwed last year losing a glut of good players leaving them for dead with poor returns. I can understand why now they are doing what they are doing.

As I said, the Lions may offer a sweetner for Beams to go along with Pick 4 but the Pies are in fantasy land thinking they will get a good player in addition.

Its not a good look also for the Pies to have a player wanting to be close to his sick father and being refused to be traded.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Both clubs are acting tough and asking for/expecting too much and as a result I think both will settle on something in the middle and Collingwood are under no more obligation here to make this happen than Brisbane are. They don't owe Brisbane any favours. It's not in any way shape or form unreasonable for them to expect a fair return for their 2nd best player who they generally have no desire to trade.

Would you just let your 2nd best (one of Dangerfield, Walker or Sloane, I guess) go for less than a fair deal if they suddenly asked out under similar circumstances next week and the club they wanted to go to tried to take advantage of the situation and offered unders for them, when they can afford to pay more?

 

[GROTTO]

Would you just let your 2nd best (one of Dangerfield, Walker or Sloane, I guess) go for less than a fair deal if they suddenly asked out under similar circumstances next week and the club they wanted to go to tried to take advantage of the situation and offered unders for them, when they can afford to pay more?

We had that exact same thing happen to us with Gunston when he walked and then demanded to be traded only to the Hawks. We got a pick in the mid 20s.

It happens to all Clubs at some stage.

 

[Gunstall555]

Aish is easily worth 9 and 29 imo Adelaide gets a bargain here

agree 100%

 

[aussierulesrules]

We had that exact same thing happen to us with Gunston when he walked and then demanded to be traded only to the Hawks. We got a pick in the mid 20s.

Was he contracted, very much required and seeking to go home for exceptional personal reasons?

 

[Man of Steele]

Swan is getting older and Pendles wont have much help around him. Dark days loom for the Pies soon. Like the good old days of the late
90s.

DANGER!!!

Pies are in a rebuilding mode.

 

[GROTTO]

Was he contracted, very much required and seeking to go home for exceptional personal reasons?

Contract was not up, he was homesick. Which is fair enough, but then dictating the terms of where we wanted to play was not something that sat well with the Club. I guess with Beams its fine he wants to go home, but GCS have ruled him out, so the point is moot.

 

[Man of Steele]

The Lions had been screwed last year losing a glut of good players leaving them for dead with poor


returns. I can understand why now they
are doing what they are doin



As I said, the Lions may offer a sweetner

for Beams to go along with Pick 4 but the
Pies are in fantasy land thinking they will
get a good player in addition.
Its not a good look also for the Pies to have a player wanting to be close to his sick father and being refused to be traded.

Mr Grotto you seem to have a lot to say.
Beams trade will get done, I respect the go home factor with his dad, but pretty poor form not to front up to club B&F!
His disrespected the club and all we are trying to do is help get him get to QLD and gain a fair trade! Pick 4 & a quality player.

 

[GROTTO]

Mr Grotto you seem to have a lot to say.
Beams trade will get done, I respect the go home factor with his dad, but pretty poor form not to front up to club B&F!
His disrespected the club and all we are trying to do is help get him get to QLD and gain a fair trade! Pick 4 & a quality player.

How do you know he wasnt told to not rock up to the Club B&F?

In any case, it is an uncomfortable situation and he is putting his family first. Suck it up.

Strong chance, Dangerfield will return to Victoria to the Hawks or the Cats. Such is life.

 

[Man of Steele]

How do you know he wasnt told to not rock up to the Club

B&F?

In any case, it is an uncomfortable

situation and he is putting his family first.

Suck it up

Strong chance, Dangerfield will return to
Victoria to the Hawks or the Cats. Such is
life.

Beams declined invite no question! why are you so interested in what happend with Beams trade. Ahh let me guess you know Danger will be a part of it!
As s matter of fact Danger was spotted catching up with Pendles over a coffee last week.You reaf it here he will be
wearing B & W next year.

 

[GROTTO]

Beams declined invite no question! why are you so interested in what happend with Beams trade. Ahh let me guess you know Danger will be a part of it!
As s matter of fact Danger was spotted catching up with Pendles over a coffee last week.You reaf it here he will be
wearing B & W next year.

What do you care if I am so interested?

Danger wont be going to the Pies, you guys wont be doing anything at all for about 3-4 years.

Maybe the Hawks or Cats yes next year.

 

[Man of Steele]

What do you care if I am so interested?

Danger wont be going to the Pies, you
guys wont be doing anything at all for
about 3-4 years
Maybe the Hawks or Cats yes next year.

What and Crows will make top 8 anytime
soon? Don't think so.
Need to stop knifing your coaches in the back for starters.

 

[GROTTO]

What and Crows will make top 8 anytime
soon? Don't think so.
Need to stop knifing your coaches in the back for starters.

Dont get upset, you will get good draft picks for the next 3-4 years so I wouldnt worry, Top 5.

 

[Man of Steele]

Dont get upset, you will get good draft picks for the next 3-4 years so I wouldnt worry, Top 5.

Not upset just a bit of banter Go Pies