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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/monash-university-adopts-trigger-warning-policy/8390264

Is this not complete garbage or what?

How are some of these easily triggered types (not the ones who have actually dealt with being r*ped etc) going to cope in the real world away from uni where they can't be so easily sheltered from things that might hurt them?

As a uni student I'm baffled by this. I go to uni to learn about a whole range of ideas from a range of sources. The warnings themselves aren't too bad, it's more that this can only get worse and lead to students having a great impact on what actually gets taught in courses.

If you're studying human rights for example, how does it help you if you want to be shielded from genocide, child abuse etc? You go out and get a job related to human rights, you sure as anything aren't going to be able to retreat to your safe space and avoid being "triggered".

I think back to high school and imagine what it would've been like for many of us if we had trigger warnings for the atrocities of WW2 or Vietnam or if we had to be warned about the guest speaker who told us his story about being in a household with domestic violence. Some people would have avoided things and that doesn't help anyone.

Why are so many people these days carrying on like this? It baffles me.
 
I watched the piece and found myself agreeing with Chris Berg. Strange.
 

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I bet we could list the 15 courses. All of them from the Humanities field.

The irony being they were once the realm of free thought.

I love the extended list being pushed for: food, eye contact, legal drugs, slimy things, insects.....

WTF.
How dare you use that word? Have you no feelings for the victims of gambling addiction, you monster?
 
The pilot involves the university asking its academics to review course content looking for "emotionally confronting material" in the discussion of sexual assault, violence, domestic abuse, child abuse, eating disorders, self-harm, suicide, pornography, abortion, kidnapping, hate speech, animal cruelty and animal deaths including abattoirs.

Is it not common sense that these topics will contain 'emotionally confronting material'? Like when you flick the telly on and the program resumes from an ad break and you get the little 'M - A/N/L' at the bottom of the screen it gives you a hint that there's going to be some swearies and they might talk about something adulty and if you're lucky there'll be some nips, but at the end of the day when you're flicking on the telly to SBS at 11pm you're not looking for Lee Lin Chin to update you on the Syrian crisis.

Are they going to provide trigger warnings that medicine involves blood and sick people or that when you're a vet sometimes the cute dog doesn't make it, or that when you have a masters in gender studies that people just want you to make their ****ing coffee and STFU?
 
Slight tangent but I had the misfortune of sharing a bus ride with two intellectuals yesterday who were complaining that their sustainability courses were 'too sciency' and that 'agriculture was boring'. Sorry, what? Are we going to build a sustainable world with feelings?

reminds me of that video doing the rounds a few months ago, where the Yale professor sent an open letter to the students basically telling them to HTFU and stop being offended by halloween costumes, and they confronted him about it.

Professor: My job is to create an intellectual space
Snowflake: It's not about creating an intellectual space! It's about creating a safe space!

Paraphrasing but that was the gist of it. It's a bit depressing, students are meant to go into University with an eager, excited, open mind and be ready to learn about all sorts of things, including things they might find distasteful, and not try and control their university with fear and safe spaces.
 
I've noticed one of my mates has gradually latched on to so many soft ideas since commencing an Arts course. Gets offended when you generalise, now thinks discussing cultural values is racist.

Boggles the mind.
 
I've got no problem with them saying some people may find content disturbing, happens on news stories, television programs are rated, but if you're studying the course, and are unable to deal with the content then maybe you should reconsider your career path.
 

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I've got no problem with them saying some people may find content disturbing, happens on news stories, television programs are rated, but if you're studying the course, and are unable to deal with the content then maybe you should reconsider your career path.

Unless your career path is - get mollycoddled at university, identify as disabled, claim benefits.
 
Unless your career path is - get mollycoddled at university, identify as disabled, claim benefits.
Well seeing as that happens all the time we should be very concerned about it, and as soon as you can provide examples we can work out how to guard against it.
 

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reminds me of that video doing the rounds a few months ago, where the Yale professor sent an open letter to the students basically telling them to HTFU and stop being offended by halloween costumes, and they confronted him about it.

Professor: My job is to create an intellectual space
Snowflake: It's not about creating an intellectual space! It's about creating a safe space!

Paraphrasing but that was the gist of it. It's a bit depressing, students are meant to go into University with an eager, excited, open mind and be ready to learn about all sorts of things, including things they might find distasteful, and not try and control their university with fear and safe spaces.
Yeah I think that was the video included in the ABC report I linked.

If these people are getting offended by Halloween costumes, The Great Gatsby etc they need help, not a university where they dictate what they experience.
 
No I like the way Gough goes about it. He gives it and takes it. Maybe because he is not of generation snowflake.

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I've got no problem with them saying some people may find content disturbing, happens on news stories, television programs are rated, but if you're studying the course, and are unable to deal with the content then maybe you should reconsider your career path.
That's the thing though. These students are studying subjects where sensitive issues are almost certain to pop up from time to time or even be a major part of their course. If they need all these warnings then why are they studying these courses?

As I said this can only lead one way with these people. They're part of the new breed interested in politics. Only interested in finding material that furthers their own opinions, unwillingly to think outside the box or listen to other people's opinions because it might offend them or destroy their arguments. The internet has made this a very dangerous phenomenon. Plenty of people now censoring what they experience so that they're "right" all the time.
 

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