Troy Taylor

[tugga]

man, give the kid some time, hasn't even been in the system 12mths, Tambling and edwards are tanks now, remember them both in first season, looked like they both just came off the set of Young Talent Time

Agree
I think after Relton's effort, we are a little worried he might not last the journey that';s all.

 

[coke_zero]

before he could answer griff replied by saying exact words were , he's a pussy reakons its too cold................and troy had his hands in his sleeves
then replied yeah ok gettin used to it.

That would be good wouldnt you think? Just mates mucking around. So he isnt on the outter.

 

[PHX]

man, give the kid some time, hasn't even been in the system 12mths, Tambling and edwards are tanks now, remember them both in first season, looked like they both just came off the set of Young Talent Time

Well said.

 

[THE_GUN]

That would be good wouldnt you think? Just mates mucking around. So he isnt on the outter.

yeah too right , they seem to be getting on well, and in good spirits.
really hope this kid comes good, something very special about him.

 

[mcuzzy]

man, give the kid some time, hasn't even been in the system 12mths, Tambling and edwards are tanks now, remember them both in first season, looked like they both just came off the set of Young Talent Time

they were both more muscle bound than taylor to start with anyway. also helps that they're shorter.

taylor might never be a 'tank' but if he chooses to try and get that body it will take years and years unfortunately

 

[Rustof]

Needs to get on the 'Martin' diet.

 

[Foley u Legend]

been named as an emerency fro this week

 

[popcap]

Agree
I think after Relton's effort, we are a little worried he might not last the journey that';s all.

I think what's important to remember with Troy is that, unlike Relton, he did spend time going through the elite development framework that exists in the NT. He played for both the NT Thunder and the u-18's team at the carnival; and from all accounts he was one of the more professional members of the squad in terms of his approach to training. Relton's story is a bit different - obviously he is/was a special talent but he'd never been involved in any serious development or conditioning programs, and the adjustment to a professional environment was a little too much for him (understandably, given his family situation in Darwin). Troy is much better placed than Relton to make a successful adjustment to the confines of an AFL club - the weather is just something he'll get used to with time (I know I did!).

Whilst it's easy to look at all indigenous players from the NT and have the same concerns about them, it's important to examine each case individually and avoid tarring all players with the same brush. It's not only insulting to the player but also to the coaches, development officers, and the NTAFL who've put time and effort into developing elite athletes in a very trying environment with limited funding and facilities.

 

[the ranger]

Relton's departure may actually help us with Troy. The two were mates and probably spent quite a bit of time talking about missing home etc. With Relton gone, Troy might be able to focus better on making it work.

 

[tiggywigs]

I think what's important to remember with Troy is that, unlike Relton, he did spend time going through the elite development framework that exists in the NT. He played for both the NT Thunder and the u-18's team at the carnival; and from all accounts he was one of the more professional members of the squad in terms of his approach to training. Relton's story is a bit different - obviously he is/was a special talent but he'd never been involved in any serious development or conditioning programs, and the adjustment to a professional environment was a little too much for him (understandably, given his family situation in Darwin). Troy is much better placed than Relton to make a successful adjustment to the confines of an AFL club - the weather is just something he'll get used to with time (I know I did!).

Whilst it's easy to look at all indigenous players from the NT and have the same concerns about them, it's important to examine each case individually and avoid tarring all players with the same brush. It's not only insulting to the player but also to the coaches, development officers, and the NTAFL who've put time and effort into developing elite athletes in a very trying environment with limited funding and facilities.

Thoughtful and seemingly well informed post.

 

[CallMeAl]

I think what's important to remember with Troy is that, unlike Relton, he did spend time going through the elite development framework that exists in the NT. He played for both the NT Thunder and the u-18's team at the carnival; and from all accounts he was one of the more professional members of the squad in terms of his approach to training. Relton's story is a bit different - obviously he is/was a special talent but he'd never been involved in any serious development or conditioning programs, and the adjustment to a professional environment was a little too much for him (understandably, given his family situation in Darwin). Troy is much better placed than Relton to make a successful adjustment to the confines of an AFL club - the weather is just something he'll get used to with time (I know I did!).

Whilst it's easy to look at all indigenous players from the NT and have the same concerns about them, it's important to examine each case individually and avoid tarring all players with the same brush. It's not only insulting to the player but also to the coaches, development officers, and the NTAFL who've put time and effort into developing elite athletes in a very trying environment with limited funding and facilities.

Yeah, pretty much on the money.
The other big diffrenece is that Reltom comes from the back of buggery, not one of the major centers of Darwin, Katherine or Alice, whereas troy lived in Darwin and then Alice. He also doesnt have the baggage, for want of a better word, of family in Melbourne with him.

The culture shock for Relton and his family would have been enormous.

Once his missus went back home with his kid it would have been even more difficult.

I remember when some blokes from "the bush" ie country victoria, would struggle with the transition to city life and thus not make it in the big time, so these sorts of issues are nothing new and not the sole realm of indigenous players.

 

[foley_falcon]

Needs to get on the 'Martin' diet.

Concrete?

 

[Barnzy]

Our record with indigenous players is very poor. Hopefully Taylor is the exception. First step is getting past this legal charge. Court case is coming up soon isn't it?

 

[mcuzzy]

Needs to get on the 'Martin' diet.

He's got unit legs for a 19 year old

 

[coke_zero]

Our record with indigenous players is very poor. Hopefully Taylor is the exception. First step is getting past this legal charge. Court case is coming up soon isn't it?

I have alot more hope of him comming good under Hardwick than he would under Wallace. So hopefully we can get the most out of him because he will be a very good player.

 

[popcap]

Yeah, pretty much on the money.
The other big diffrenece is that Reltom comes from the back of buggery, not one of the major centers of Darwin, Katherine or Alice, whereas troy lived in Darwin and then Alice. He also doesnt have the baggage, for want of a better word, of family in Melbourne with him.

The culture shock for Relton and his family would have been enormous.

Once his missus went back home with his kid it would have been even more difficult.

I remember when some blokes from "the bush" ie country victoria, would struggle with the transition to city life and thus not make it in the big time, so these sorts of issues are nothing new and not the sole realm of indigenous players.

yeah, spot on al. he's from barunga i've heard, a hike out of katherine, and it's not like katherine is melbourne dumped down in the middle of the desert. the culture shock is (understandably) totally underrated by victorians who don't really understand territory life outside of darwin.

 

[tugga]

yeah, spot on al. he's from barunga i've heard, a hike out of katherine, and it's not like katherine is melbourne dumped down in the middle of the desert. the culture shock is (understandably) totally underrated by victorians who don't really understand territory life outside of darwin.

I have travelled extensive around the Territory.
The place is amazing, but let's face it, there's not one urban centre that you would consider attractive in the slightest.
You make some excellent points though.

 

[theyellowsash]

Concrete?

diamond

 

[Danog]

I read somewhere that Martin eats a ridiculous amount. The family that hosted him had their food bill double when he lived with them.

 

[popcap]

I have travelled extensive around the Territory.
The place is amazing, but let's face it, there's not one urban centre that you would consider attractive in the slightest.
You make some excellent points though.

Haha no arguments there. The big centres aren't why you want to be in the NT. When I said "underrated by Victorians" I wasn't referring to the towns themselves; rather the effect it has on a person to move between such hugely different environments as the NT and Melbourne. My experience is generally that it is difficult for people who grow up in cities like Melbourne or Sydney to realise how different life in the Territory is, and appreciate the toll trying to change virtually every aspect of your lifestyle to fit in with where you live exacts on a person. But yep, to Darwin / Alice / Katherine being not the prettiest places around.

 

[tugga]

Haha no arguments there. The big centres aren't why you want to be in the NT. When I said "underrated by Victorians" I wasn't referring to the towns themselves; rather the effect it has on a person to move between such hugely different environments as the NT and Melbourne. My experience is generally that it is difficult for people who grow up in cities like Melbourne or Sydney to realise how different life in the Territory is, and appreciate the toll trying to change virtually every aspect of your lifestyle to fit in with where you live exacts on a person. But yep, to Darwin / Alice / Katherine being not the prettiest places around.

Agree. The land itself is amazing. Mesmerising in fact.
And I am an original farmboy and hated living in Melbourne. Also grew up in Shepparton and have quite a few Aboriginal friends. Indeed it would be a huge culture shock for them. That's why I have so much admiration for Liam Jurrah and Austin Wonnaemirri.