Banter TRTTT Part 16 - How good are fingerless gloves

[afl2004]

 

[TazD]

They need to stop beating around the bush and do something.

Such as?

 

[JimmyBC]

Such as?

AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY!! SOMETHING SOMETHING!!

 

[GoPorts]

Yeah, but heaps of cool videos of the queen dunking in the NBA.
You can't put a price on that

 

[240volt]

Such as?

Such as you ask ?
Immigration laws and entrance into Australia need to be tightened.
This is not just a knee-jerk reaction to last weekends tragic events but a need to also curve immigration in our current economic crisis.

Our laws need to reflect the hideous crimes being inflicted on our society.
The pathetic justice system that allows offenders to walk free with basically a slap on the wrist.
Our ridiculous gun laws that allow any person living in suburban Sydney to legally own up to six guns.
You getting the drift?
All I’m proposing is what the vast majority of our population wants.
But alas, the minority of do- gooders and self interest groups still possess a lot of influence on how our country is run including weak arse w***ers that turn a blind eye and pray it won’t someday affect them.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

What did he actually say to warrant your death sentence, just interested.

I couldnt believe what he said!

 

[240volt]

I couldnt believe what he said!

Something about Hinkley getting into federal politics ?

 

[Festerz]

Everything he said previously was using a tragedy to stoke the fires of division and outrage

And what about the war criminal Netanyahu savaging Albo for not preventing the Bondi Beach attacks within hours of the news breaking?

Never mind the fact that he failed to prevent the October 7 2023 attacks on his own people even though he has at his disposal one of the world’s most powerful armies, unmatched border surveillance systems and a secret service with powers second to none, not to mention decades of experience with terrorism.

And subsequently he was and is solely responsible for ordering the Israeli Defence Force to massacre an estimated 100 civilians in Gaza in retribution each day.

That the Australian media are uncritically reporting the faux outrage from him and the likes of John Howard and Pauline Hanson, purely for political effect, shows just how far our journalistic standards have fallen.

 

[Contested Marx]

Probably need to double check but pretty sure it was Frydenberg's party in power when this guy was granted residency in Australia and again when ASIO looked into him but didn't pursue it any further it was his old mate Dutton in charge

 

[TazD]

Such as you ask ?
Immigration laws and entrance into Australia need to be tightened.
This is not just a knee-jerk reaction to last weekends tragic events but a need to also curve immigration in our current economic crisis.

Oh yeah, what specifically would you like changed about the rules? Just saying "tighten it" doesn't really fly imo.

 

[NoddyHolder]

I think it’s not the time for him to be saying things like this.
It will lead people to think he’s trying to springboard his political future.
In saying that I listened to what he said in his speech at Bondi and was surprised some of the things he said was almost word for word what I’ve said on this forum recently.
The fact is Australians as a majority are sick of what’s going on in there country.
People want change and action not politicians doing nothing.

We had an election this year in which the coalition presented themselves as the option for change towards the divisive right wing populism you seem to be advocating and the electorate overwhelmingly told them to **** off

 

[Festerz]

And while we're on religious issues. Probably the most historically accurate nativity play of all time..

 

[edgie]

And what about the war criminal Netanyahu savaging Albo for not preventing the Bondi Beach attacks within hours of the news breaking?

Never mind the fact that he failed to prevent the October 7 2023 attacks on his own people even though he has at his disposal one of the world’s most powerful armies, unmatched border surveillance systems and a secret service with powers second to none, not to mention decades of experience with terrorism.

And subsequently he was and is solely responsible for ordering the Israeli Defence Force to massacre an estimated 100 civilians in Gaza in retribution each day.

That the Australian media are uncritically reporting the faux outrage from him and the likes of John Howard and Pauline Hanson, purely for political effect, shows just how far our journalistic standards have fallen.

Mate I don't know what you're getting but if you think I wouldn't want Netanyahoo to catch one of his own bullets either... Like I dunno maybe I would actually want that, unlike the Frydenberg statement which was a bit of hyperbole. The man is nearly as toxic as Putin.

 

[Andre]

At this point I'm sadly not convinced that the bolded is true.

Whilst there's obviously the racist element, I do think there's a significant element that thinks similarly to 240, albeit, put a bit better. That they don't believe all Muslims are terrorists, or even all terrorists are Muslim BUT that Muslims show up as terrorists / wannabe terrorists, in disproportionately high numbers, compared to a random John/Jane Doe picked at random from Australia or the world, both here in Australia and across the world. With feeling 'mainstream' politicians (correctly) say the all Muslims, or even a majority of Muslims aren't a problem, but don't say or rarely say the other bit of 'however there's clearly a problem with the religion, or at least some teaching / supporting it, that there's too many Muslims radicalised and it's a threat we're taking seriously'.

240 put it bluntly, but you pay more for a car license as a guy as you're higher risk, you live in a bushfire prone area you're paying more for insurance, because there's a higher risk. To apply a more intense screening process for those from countries / a religion that a higher proportion (again not a majority) are radicalised / open to radicalisation is 'following the stats' not randomly picking Islam as a religion out of a hat to pick on those following. A simple starting point would be asking asking any what they think should happen to anyone who mocks the Prophet (draws a cartoon etc.). If they are happy with violence against them, that'd be an obvious black mark. Obviously most wouldn't be that blatant in their response, but a screening process carried out to check views, would be able to identify many of those who shouldn't be allowed to come here.

Again to be clear, I don't advocate stopping immigration from any particular country / group, but if every time I open a door to let someone in, those coming through particular doors are more likely to punch me in the face, then I'll be more careful letting people through that door.

 

[Powerade 08]

Soon it will be able to do basic math.

not really because its a token predictor. but yeah, soon it will be more smarter den me.

more funding needed!

Im off to generate some naked Sonics

 

[240volt]

Oh yeah, what specifically would you like changed about the rules? Just saying "tighten it" doesn't really fly imo.

And what does in your opinion?

 

[240volt]

We had an election this year in which the coalition presented themselves as the option for change towards the divisive right wing populism you seem to be advocating and the electorate overwhelmingly told them to **** off

Honestly there views are not much different to labor, what killed the Libs was Dutton.
Even die harders didn’t like him.

 

[TazD]

And what does in your opinion?

I'm not the one saying we need to tighten rules

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Haha nothing specific. Trump came in as the "crypto president" with his pump and dump coin scam, and talk of a bit coin strategic reserve.
There was a big surge, but since then shitcoins have tanked, and Bitcoin is down 30% from all time highs. At this point the price is just bouncing around weekly liquidating people that are over leveraged. It's just blatant market manipulation.
Anyhoo all the tech bro hype has now switches to AI, with massive amounts of money flowing that way. Crypto basically has already failed as a use case for an "alternate currency", it only exists for plebs to think they can get rich "investing". Except it cant keep going up indefinitely, and all the usual tricks of using Tether money printers to make fake money, Michael Saylor throwing in another billion dollars once a week, doesn't seem to shift it at all.

The whole thing is nonsensical, so it could still go up based on zero logical reason, but probably the biggest thing is the tech bros moving on to the next bubble and throwing all their eggs into AI.

Anyway, there's been a lot of people bragging about how smart they are for buying imaginary digital coins with no intrinsic value, and I can't wait for the whole thing to turn into another Bored Ape NFT collapse where is all goes to zero..

Spoken like every guy that lost 96.4% on nursecoin

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

It’s a weird world we live in when the Josh Frydenbergs are the centre of peoples ire rather than the ideologies that caused a kid to blast 40 people having a party on the beach.

 

[240volt]

I'm not the one saying we need to tighten rules

Are so you’re content with the way things are in Australia.
The ultimate political happy clapper.

 

[Festerz]

Probably need to double check but pretty sure it was Frydenberg's party in power when this guy was granted residency in Australia and again when ASIO looked into him but didn't pursue it any further it was his old mate Dutton in charge

Correct. The following are not all my words but borrowed from a couple of mates. They're worth repeating 'cos they read like poetry in my view.

Every time something horrible happens in this country, the Pauline Hanson One Nation crowd crawls out of the woodwork like cockroaches that just discovered Facebook and X comments, screaming that Anthony Albanese needs to resign.

This time though it's not just social media or Sky News that are spreading the BS like fairy dust - its the commercial media including political hacks from 'our' ABC.

And according to them the current Prime Minister now controls time, space, visas, ASIO, state gun licensing, and individual human decisions stretching back three decades.

Some facts:

1. The father Sajid Akram immigrated to Australia on a student visa in 1998.

- Who was Prime Minister? John Howard.

2. The son, Naveed Akram who ASIO investigated then dropped its investigation in 2019.

- Who was Prime Minister? Scott Morrison.

The terrorist father came here under a Liberal government.

The gun licence was granted under a Liberal government.

ASIO closed the file under a Liberal government.

But now the same people who voted for those governments are demanding the Labor PM resign because screaming “immigrants” feels better than admitting their own side ran the system for most of the last 25 years.

Are so you’re content with the way things are in Australia.
The ultimate political happy clapper.

You realise you live in a fantasy world that doesn't exist right?

You act like radicalisation is a checkbox on a visa application form form. As if someone arrives at the airport and ticks “Yes” or “No” under “Will become dangerous in 20 years after consuming global propaganda, grievance politics, and endless war footage”.

Radicalisation is a process. It happens over time. Often decades later. Sometimes to people born here. Sometimes to people investigated and cleared years earlier. That’s reality, whether it fits your racist fantasy or not.

But you and the the likes of Hanson and her supporters aren't interested in reality.

The point is finding someone to blame.

• Blame migrants.
• Blame Muslims.
• Blame the other side of politics.

Blame anyone except the systems you cheered for and the governments you kept voting back in.

And here’s the kicker.

The same mob screaming “law and order” is suddenly pretending ASIO is useless. The same people who worship John Howard now want to memory-hole the fact that this all started on his watch. The same crowd that defended Abbott and Morrison to the death now wants to act shocked that long-term failures exist in long-term systems.

You don’t want solutions. You want a target.

Well in the famous words of a character from the great movie produced and directed by the late Rob Reiner...

 

[240volt]

Correct. The following are not all my words but borrowed from a couple of mates. They're worth repeating 'cos they read like poetry in my view.

Every time something horrible happens in this country, the Pauline Hanson One Nation crowd crawls out of the woodwork like cockroaches that just discovered Facebook and X comments, screaming that Anthony Albanese needs to resign.

This time though it's not just social media or Sky News that are spreading the BS like fairy dust - its the commercial media including political hacks from 'our' ABC.

And according to them the current Prime Minister now controls time, space, visas, ASIO, state gun licensing, and individual human decisions stretching back three decades.

Some facts:

1. The father Sajid Akram immigrated to Australia on a student visa in 1998.

- Who was Prime Minister? John Howard.

2. The son, Naveed Akram who ASIO investigated then dropped its investigation in 2019.

- Who was Prime Minister? Scott Morrison.

The terrorist father came here under a Liberal government.

The gun licence was granted under a Liberal government.

ASIO closed the file under a Liberal government.

But now the same people who voted for those governments are demanding the Labor PM resign because screaming “immigrants” feels better than admitting their own side ran the system for most of the last 25 years.



You realise you live in a fantasy world that doesn't exist right?

You act like radicalisation is a checkbox on a visa application form form. As if someone arrives at the airport and ticks “Yes” or “No” under “Will become dangerous in 20 years after consuming global propaganda, grievance politics, and endless war footage”.

Radicalisation is a process. It happens over time. Often decades later. Sometimes to people born here. Sometimes to people investigated and cleared years earlier. That’s reality, whether it fits your racist fantasy or not.

But you and the the likes of Hanson and her supporters aren't interested in reality.

The point is finding someone to blame.

• Blame migrants.
• Blame Muslims.
• Blame the other side of politics.

Blame anyone except the systems you cheered for and the governments you kept voting back in.

And here’s the kicker.

The same mob screaming “law and order” is suddenly pretending ASIO is useless. The same people who worship John Howard now want to memory-hole the fact that this all started on his watch. The same crowd that defended Abbott and Morrison to the death now wants to act shocked that long-term failures exist in long-term systems.

You don’t want solutions. You want a target.

Well in the famous words of a character from the great movie produced and directed by the late Rob Reiner...

You talk in circles I’m not advocating anything radical or out of the ordinary.
Anytime anyone who wants realistic changes to our laws and ways people like you get on your high horse and paint everybody as Hanson lovers.
You’re so zoned in on the one size fits all mentality.
You believe anyone who doesn’t fit into your way of thinking is racially motivated.
As like all before you have no answers but only criticism.

 

[Festerz]

people like you

There you go.

I’m not advocating anything radical or out of the ordinary.

Agree. Just blaming.

 

[soafraid]

All I’ve heard from you is how my views are wrong.
You give no alternative views on what is needed to be done.
There is a growing hatred in the community about the direction our country is going.
People are not happy about what’s going on, even you surely can see that.

The proletariat need to rise up and seize the means of production bro