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Someone coined this phrase in the game day thread and I think it is so accurate. Why do we constantly throw ourselves at opposition players only to twirl around their bodies like turn styles and promptly slide off? When you tackle you must pin at least one arm. You cannot let them get the ball away otherwise there is absolutely no point to tackling. This has been a concern for many years with our club, but to me it appears to be getting worse not better. How do we solve this problem?
 
I think tackling needs to be valued higher at selection (both week to week and with who we bring into the club through the drafts/trades). Not enough stock placed on it at the moment.

We hope it improves, have a few sessions on it... but it ultimately ends up at the same average level it's been for years.
 

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jenny61_99 said:
Someone coined this phrase in the game day thread and I think it is so accurate. Why do we constantly throw ourselves at opposition players only to twirl around their bodies like turn styles and promptly slide off? When you tackle you must pin at least one arm. You cannot let them get the ball away otherwise there is absolutely no point to tackling. This has been a concern for many years with our club, but to me it appears to be getting worse not better. How do we solve this problem?
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preseason tackling session inside the shed

 
Craig never rated it and hence its been an issue for a decade. As someone mentioned before the club doesn't screen for tackling technique when recruiting and it shows. Allowing the ball to come out of the contest easily and then killing us on the spread happens every week. Rarely do we do this to opponents because they can actually stick a tackle. They should seriously consider hiring a specialist tackling coach as tackling is 100% technique.
 
MRB37 said:
My biggest issue is very few attempt to pin an arm when tackling. Not much good you tackling him around the waist when the guys arms are free to dish off an easy handpass.
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This! It drives me nuts! Rory Sloane's a big offender, but it seems that almost all the Crows' attempts at tackling end up like this, or the fingertip touch to the opposition player, resulting in the turn-style tackle. :mad:
 
Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
I think tackling needs to be valued higher at selection (both week to week and with who we bring into the club through the drafts/trades). Not enough stock placed on it at the moment.

We hope it improves, have a few sessions on it... but it ultimately ends up at the same average level it's been for years.
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It's becoming painfully obvious that our coaching group can't teach this side how to tackle. This makes me think we need a new coaching group or we need to start drafting players who can actually tackle. The physicality of our current side is embarrassing.
 
This style of tackle may have worked when Adam was a boy but with the increase in core strength of the average AFL player it is now ineffectual. As I mentioned in another thread the only thing this wasteful style achieves is to take the tackler out of the contest. Sloan is a big believer in this old fashion relic which makes my blood boil to see what should be a standard skill displayed so ineptly by the senior players.
 

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Amato said:
Craig never rated it and hence its been an issue for a decade. As someone mentioned before the club doesn't screen for tackling technique when recruiting and it shows. Allowing the ball to come out of the contest easily and then killing us on the spread happens every week. Rarely do we do this to opponents because they can actually stick a tackle. They should seriously consider hiring a specialist tackling coach as tackling is 100% technique.
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Tackling is 50 per cent aggresion, technique will only get you so far...
 
It just seems that tackling is not valued at the club and our boys are horrible at it. My amateur team once had a rugby tackling coach come to our club to teach us the rugby tackle at although it doesn't fully incorporate pinning the arms (it's basically a spear tackle to the mid-body), it's a a helluva lot better than what the Crows are doing at the moment.

Sloane's turnstyle tackle on the Freo player yesterday was horrible. Sloane effectively gave the Freo player a slight belly rub with his forearm, and then somehow twisted himself around to get out of the Freo player's run. The thing is, in every other instance, we seem content to NOT run at the player and hold off, therefore putting pressure on the next disposal. Why then would Sloaney run straight at a player who was running at him and commit to a tackle that was just so weak?

Why do we commit when we shouldn't, and stand back and guard grass when we should be running at a stationary opposition player with the ball?

And so many times did a Freo player yesterday get their hands free in a tackle and give off a handball. I mean, Freo were just clinical in the tight contests yesterday, and we were content to just hug their hips, bend down a little, put a grimace on our face and think 'Sando will love this effort!'.

I'm sure their are some rabid players from opposition clubs (whom I can't name off the top of my head) who will just pin the arms down and not give a single inch in a tackle. Our boys need to be rabid as well.
 
If we are serious about eliminating this tackling technique then Sando needs to not select those players who's technique is both soft and poor

Otten is one player who is such an ineffective and poor tackler
 
Amato said:
Craig never rated it and hence its been an issue for a decade. As someone mentioned before the club doesn't screen for tackling technique when recruiting and it shows. Allowing the ball to come out of the contest easily and then killing us on the spread happens every week. Rarely do we do this to opponents because they can actually stick a tackle. They should seriously consider hiring a specialist tackling coach as tackling is 100% technique.
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I'm sure Charlie Cameron could use an extra pay cheque to supplement his rookie wage.
 

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An interesting point I noted on the Freo game. Many of their midfielders are 188 - 190cm+ (Fyffe, Barlow, Mundy, Duffield) whereas our's are 180 - 184cm (Sloane, Thommo, Dougie, Lyons, Laird). It could help explain why they get their hands free so often, and outmark us in general play. Throw in Martin, Jaensch, Wright, etc...and we're a bunch of short people. Probably also explains why we get hammered on the rebound, as they're not only taller, but pacier. Too many six footers, not enough 6' 2" or 6' 3" types.
 
SydCrow said:
there was nothing wrong with it in the first half - some of the best forward 50 pressure we have produced all year
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Yeah, but like the rest of our skills, it tends to fall apart when it's the opposition applying the pressure.
 
Skippy231 said:
Should we bulk him up again like last year so he can't run? :rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:

Show me evidence that he 'bulked' last year and that it effected his running.

He may be fitter, yes. But my guess is he's probably as strong as he's ever been.

He will always be slim pickings for any would be tackler. Why he is always in congestion trying to get through tackles is the puzzling part.

Anyway, off topic. Sorry.
 

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