Tyson Edwards - The New #2

[tribey]

(I originally posted this reply to jmorg1 in the 'Andrew Jarman on ch10' thread, but I thought the subject matter deserved a thread of its own.)

Tyson Edwards, based on super-consistent performances over the last few years, has clearly overtaken McLeod as the most valueable Crows player behind Ricciuto.

Hear hear. I agree wholeheartedly.

Edwards has always been lauded by us Crows fans for his consistency and workrate, but now we're running out of superlatives for this wonderful club servant considering 'class' and 'superior' have to be added to the list.

There is now no question in my mind that Edwards should be considered our #2 - in terms of ability and importance - behind Mark 'more medals than Rommel' Ricciuto. He hasn't just surpassed McLeod, he's overthrown him in a silent revolution that has seen Tyson move from being a very good player to one who is now on the periphery of the upper echelon of AFL footballers, about to break in.

Like some of the other unsung heroes in the league who were finally handed long-overdue accolades last season - James Clement, Chad Fletcher and Brett Kirk spring to mind - hopefully Edwards can keep firing and add a Gold Jacket and/or All-Australian guernsey to his pair of Premiership Medallions.

He richly deserves both.

 

[Crowked]

I agree Edwards has been our second best player recently, particularly last season. However Macca is still a more skillful player than even Roo, never mind Tyson. I'll beleive Tyson is truely better than Macca when opposition coaches give him as much attention as Macca gets, week in, week out. Only after Tsyon proves he can overcome the extra attention Macca gets will I agree he has over taken Macca in standing. Lets not forget that Macca gets the oppositions best defensive midfielder every week, Tyson gets free reign in comparison.

Having said this, I am a huge Edwards fan, have been for a long time. Also, I think if Roo were to get injured, Edwards would be my first choice to be Captain.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Its been what I've thought for many years.

 

[drakeyv2]

Yep, he is 2nd only to Roo as the club leader.

 

[mymansyd]

No argument from me. Tyson has definitely been #2 over the last year or so.

Deserves a B&F before he retires. This should happen, coz' he looks like the sort of bloke that could play till he was 34/35.

 

[Fergus]

Players like Tyson Edwards are rare and worth a fortune to the club. He just goes about his business with a minimum of fuss and does it with class week in week out. Has always been one of my favourites.

 

[AdelaideFan]

Agree but don't let the word get out to opposition coaches. It would be great to see him get a gold jacket and would be more deserved than a lot of other player who have received them over the years.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Agree but don't let the word get out to opposition coaches. It would be great to see him get a gold jacket and would be more deserved than a lot of other player who have received them over the years.

We're not going to mention Matty Connell then are we?

 

[tribey]

We're not going to mention Matty Connell then are we?

Andrew Jarman was stiff that year.

Club stalwart passed over for the new recruit, odd.

 

[meh]

Andrew Jarman was stiff that year.

Club stalwart passed over for the new recruit, odd.

macca is good in bursts and tyson is a consistent performer.

 

[Jars458]

Andrew Jarman was stiff that year.

Club stalwart passed over for the new recruit, odd.

Not really

Matty Connell had a super year that year, he really did.

Not to mention the fact that Jars didn't particularly ralte to authority that well which may have cost him votes.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Yep the Typhoon is and has been our #2 for a couple of years now.

 

[outback jack]

you all jump off macca pretty quick. Macca's been bad last yr, and half of the yr before that. Edwards was played off half back or half forward for most of time with ayres, he often gets left foot happy in these positions which really detracts from his game. Only when NC has come in did edwards pay midfield and show his worth. Apart from that hes got the recognition he deserved.

It was only two yrs ago that macca was easily our best player, way in front of roo. Over the those two yrs though alot has changed. Macca isnt the player he was any more, despite apparently being in great nick, and roo seems to just seems to gave got better and better.

I can see roo’s demise coming soon as well, of the two games I’ve seen this yr unless he was injured he seems to have lost just a little bit.

 

[tribey]

Not really

Matty Connell had a super year that year, he really did.

Not to mention the fact that Jars didn't particularly ralte to authority that well which may have cost him votes.

Connell was good - you could argue it was a super year considering he was previously discarded and it was his first year in a new team sure - but Jarman's year was very good also considering how bad the team performed on the whole.

There's also the argument that Jarman was more important in the engine room while Connell was less important as a receiver.

If you break it down to raw production (which is dangerous when justifying awards such as these I know) and note that year's Brownlow count, there's some food for thought at the very least:

Matt Connell's 1995:

Games: 21
Disposals: 481 (@ 22.90 dpg)
Marks: 109 (@ 5.19 mpg)
Tackles: 18 (@ 0.85 tpg)
Goalscoring: 6.9 (45 points)
Brownlow Votes: 1 (equal 18th)

Andrew Jarman's 1995:

Games: 21
Disposals: 476 (@ 22.67 dpg)
Marks: 60 (@ 2.85 mpg)
Tackles: 70 (@ 3.33 tpg)
Goalscoring: 22.14 (146 points)
Brownlow Votes: 13 (equal 7th)

As far as Jarman's attitude goes, of course that may have been a factor considering who gives out the votes, but as far as deserving something on ability and output for the cause goes, he should've had an equal opportunity at winning the thing.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

you all jump off macca pretty quick. Macca's been bad last yr, and half of the yr before that. Edwards was played off half back or half forward for most of time with ayres, he often gets left foot happy in these positions which really detracts from his game. Only when NC has come in did edwards pay midfield and show his worth. Apart from that hes got the recognition he deserved..

Rubbish. Been a Macca fan since he came in but Edwards has been head and shoulders above him and rotated in the middle as well during those lean year.

It was only two yrs ago that macca was easily our best player, way in front of roo. Over the those two yrs though alot has changed. Macca isnt the player he was any more, despite apparently being in great nick, and roo seems to just seems to gave got better and better
I can see roo’s demise coming soon as well, of the two games I’ve seen this yr unless he was injured he seems to have lost just a little bit.

Crystal.........ball..........gazing.

 

[Crowked]

Matt Connell's 1995:

Games: 21
Disposals: 481 (@ 22.90 dpg)
Marks: 109 (@ 5.19 mpg)
Tackles: 18 (@ 0.85 tpg)
Goalscoring: 6.9 (45 points)
Brownlow Votes: 1 (equal 18th)

Andrew Jarman's 1995:

Games: 21
Disposals: 476 (@ 22.67 dpg)
Marks: 60 (@ 2.85 mpg)
Tackles: 70 (@ 3.33 tpg)
Goalscoring: 22.14 (146 points)
Brownlow Votes: 13 (equal 7th)

Interesting stats, very different players.

What was the club champ votes comparison like?

 

[tribey]

Player - CC Votes (1995)

Connell - 33
Jarman - 32
Tregenza - 31
Smart - 29
Jammo - 28
Hart - 23
Roo - 20
Wellman - 17 (interesting)
Pitto - 14
Edwards - 14
McCartney - 12
Mods - 11
Ando - 8
Lippy - 7
McKinnon - 7
McLeod - 7
Bone - 7
Ingo - 5
Rehn - 5
Chalmers - 4
Lee - 4
Bicks - 4
Pesch - 3
Powell - 3
Tasker - 2
Robran - 1

Hence Jars being stiff

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I agree Edwards has been our second best player recently, particularly last season. However Macca is still a more skillful player than even Roo, never mind Tyson. I'll beleive Tyson is truely better than Macca when opposition coaches give him as much attention as Macca gets, week in, week out. Only after Tsyon proves he can overcome the extra attention Macca gets will I agree he has over taken Macca in standing. Lets not forget that Macca gets the oppositions best defensive midfielder every week, Tyson gets free reign in comparison.

Having said this, I am a huge Edwards fan, have been for a long time. Also, I think if Roo were to get injured, Edwards would be my first choice to be Captain.

I actually think Macca's skills have deteriorated & Edwards skill level is higher.

For a while now Edwards has been more value to the side on a consistent basis. Tyson rarely plays a bad game & is flexibile to comfortably play on-ball/forward/back when required.

Hopefully with the return of other midfielders like Goodwin & Thompson that the opposition have to contend with, Macca could be freed up more, as we would all like to see the Macca of old.

 

[Jars458]

Connell was good - you could argue it was a super year considering he was previously discarded and it was his first year in a new team sure - but Jarman's year was very good also considering how bad the team performed on the whole.

There's also the argument that Jarman was more important in the engine room while Connell was less important as a receiver.

If you break it down to raw production (which is dangerous when justifying awards such as these I know) and note that year's Brownlow count, there's some food for thought at the very least:

Matt Connell's 1995:

Games: 21
Disposals: 481 (@ 22.90 dpg)
Marks: 109 (@ 5.19 mpg)
Tackles: 18 (@ 0.85 tpg)
Goalscoring: 6.9 (45 points)
Brownlow Votes: 1 (equal 18th)

Andrew Jarman's 1995:

Games: 21
Disposals: 476 (@ 22.67 dpg)
Marks: 60 (@ 2.85 mpg)
Tackles: 70 (@ 3.33 tpg)
Goalscoring: 22.14 (146 points)
Brownlow Votes: 13 (equal 7th)

As far as Jarman's attitude goes, of course that may have been a factor considering who gives out the votes, but as far as deserving something on ability and output for the cause goes, he should've had an equal opportunity at winning the thing.

No doubt. But Connell also played many games as a tagger and was not just a recevier. He managed to tag guys and get lots of the footy at the same time.

Both would have been worthy winners but at the time I remember being more than happy that Connell had won and I was a big Jars fan. Those tackle stats are very interesting.

 

[Crowked]

Player - CC Votes (1995)

Connell - 33
Jarman - 32
Tregenza - 31
Smart - 29
Jammo - 28

Hence Jars being stiff

Yeh, stiff OK. Pretty bloody close accross the top 5 that year though.

Could never detract from a players acheivements, I rated Connell pretty highly but Jars could have been a deserved winner too.

 

[- PC -]

Edwards is all class and will unfortunately miss higher honours because of his unassuming nature. If he had half the pizazz of a McLeod or the cheek of a Crawford he would be centre stage. I have had him in my top 3 for about 3 years and knew when he got the ball he would deliver quality.

Reminds me of someone like John Blakey , you know he will get a game every week and he will give you quality. Is Edwards our next captain? For a transition year anyway.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Edwards has always been lauded by us Crows fans for his consistency and workrate, but now we're running out of superlatives for this wonderful club servant considering 'class' and 'superior' have to be added to the list.

There is now no question in my mind that Edwards should be considered our #2 - in terms of ability and importance - behind Mark 'more medals than Rommel' Ricciuto. He hasn't just surpassed McLeod, he's overthrown him in a silent revolution that has seen Tyson move from being a very good player to one who is now on the periphery of the upper echelon of AFL footballers, about to break in.

Like some of the other unsung heroes in the league who were finally handed long-overdue accolades last season - James Clement, Chad Fletcher and Brett Kirk spring to mind - hopefully Edwards can keep firing and add a Gold Jacket and/or All-Australian guernsey to his pair of Premiership Medallions.

He richly deserves both.

Hear hear.

I have rated him for years now and I absolutely love players line Edwards. Does the job week in, week out with the minimumof fuss. Can play back, forward or in the midfield and rarely has a bad game. As I said before, I would love to see him with the B&F because he would be a worthy winner. All Australian selection would be another nice accolad for a fantastic player like Tyson

 

[jo172]

Tyson Edwards is Adelaide's nicest, most unassuming, modest footballer. Tyson Edwards is an amazing week in week out contributor and is easily the second best footballer on our list.

Andrew Mcleod we remember some amazing games, all of which the Crows won, im talking about 97/98 GF's and 2003 Wizz Fizz Cup final. Tyson has the uncanny ability to star in games where the Crows lose. I remember in 1998 when the Crows had to play at Kardinia Park and were absolutely flogged, we had 2 good players that day Mods and Edwards. Tyson has been our most consistant footballer easily and has been able to play almost every small man posistion in the ground, sometimes all in the same week, Tyson Edwards = Legend

 

[macca23]

(I originally posted this reply to jmorg1 in the 'Andrew Jarman on ch10' thread, but I thought the subject matter deserved a thread of its own.)



Hear hear. I agree wholeheartedly.

Edwards has always been lauded by us Crows fans for his consistency and workrate, but now we're running out of superlatives for this wonderful club servant considering 'class' and 'superior' have to be added to the list.

There is now no question in my mind that Edwards should be considered our #2 - in terms of ability and importance - behind Mark 'more medals than Rommel' Ricciuto. He hasn't just surpassed McLeod, he's overthrown him in a silent revolution that has seen Tyson move from being a very good player to one who is now on the periphery of the upper echelon of AFL footballers, about to break in.

Like some of the other unsung heroes in the league who were finally handed long-overdue accolades last season - James Clement, Chad Fletcher and Brett Kirk spring to mind - hopefully Edwards can keep firing and add a Gold Jacket and/or All-Australian guernsey to his pair of Premiership Medallions.

He richly deserves both.

A beautiful soliloqy there DT. Loved the definition of Mark 'more medals than Rommel' Ricciuto!!

Oh, and on the topic itself, what a pleasure it was to hear Edwards say that he realized that HE had to pull his finger out and do the hard yards to play in the team regularly after being in and out of it for some time.

Macca - are you listening??

Comfortably the #2 best player on our list for some time now. A credit to himself and he should be an inspiration to any young man wanting to play AFL footy with the Crows.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Just a quick note on Matty Connell, I followed his time at the Crows after leaving the Eags, especially 1995. He was excellent for you guys that year (we had Connell and Matt Clape kick on big time after leaving the Eagles for 1995!), and while he was a surprise to win your B&F it was a great nod to a player that had really put in that season. I'd liken it to Drew Banfield winning it for WCE in 1996, he had an excellent year (and don't get me wrong, Drew's much, much better than Matty Connell ) but Chrissy Mainwaring was pretty bloody stiff.

Oh and Edwards is a great player, I'd have loved him at the Eagles, Macca is one of the most talented players I've ever seen but Tyson's recent form has over taken McLeod.