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AFL are trying to keep the game flowing by forcing players to get rid of it. That's fine but the consistency the game is umpired at isn't great at the moment. Some shockers paid, a lot un-paid on the grounds of those that are paid.

Against Fremantle there were some shockers paid in marking contests that were not there.

I think too many umpires could be a factor. If it's down to interpretations and there are a lot of individuals out there then the likelihood those individuals will interpret things differently is fairly likely.

I don't care about the interpretations and rules that much. I care about the consistency. Would rater see less frees paid in marking contests and plenty of frees for holding the ball like we are but I'd like to see consistency.
 

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FlowersByIrene said:
Exact same tackle was done by Fisher a minute later in our forward line and NOTHING
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The ump couldnt use the no genuine attempt on Casboult either as he was clearly making an attempt .
Wrapped up no prior made an attempt ball up everytime .
So i have no idea why these free kicks like the SPS one last week are picked out Infuriating .
Just no consistency across the board with the umpiring .
 
jj1978 said:
On this issue we apparently have no right to think
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Rubbish. Think, discuss, get angry and vent at the process. I yell and scream at decisions in every game we play. Just don’t insult the people. There are kids who watch these threads, go to the games, participate on weekend and they learn from what the see, hear and read. A few of them might be good umpires in the future who decide not to help for the fear of being insulted. They volunteer passionately in their early days and should be afforded the opportunity to contribute to the game without being accused of cheating or munching on dead flesh.
 
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Even though we won and I didnt think we got a rough end of the umpiring deal, I was still so frustrated by the umpiring last night, Like my previous stance, it’s not actually about the u piers but the way in which they are to.d to do their jobs.

To me it’s clear, the AFL after last rounds holding the ball mess have spoken to the umps and this game we see a massive over correction by barely paying any incorrect disposal free kicks all night, both teams continuously dropped the ball in tackles, threw the ball to team mates, or we tackled with prior but because the ball was moving was waived play on.

I fear our game is at a cross roads and is lead by a man who waits to things are at breaking point before taking any action. We have a set of rules that changes every year so much that half the rules are forgotten or strangely just not applied.

We have holding the ball decisions (Cas) with no prior, tavkled immediately and making an attempt but pinged, we have Conca not in a marking contest punching the ball directly out of bounds, no deliberate, we have the commentators on Saturday night repeatedly reference that the u pores are ignoring incorrect disposal. We have Newnes getting a downfield free, when he wasn’t anywhere near the fall of the ball, we have this week an umpire has been found to have twice in the last 5wo rounds to have forgotten to have blown time off, costing more than 30 seconds in close games and on the footy shows tonight, showing defenders running from a kick in, up to 25m without bouncing the ball.

How do we get to a point where, we accept that the rules aren’t actually the rules?
 
The Blue Baggers said:
It’s better to be on the controversial receiving side and winning than complaining about decisions after a loss !!
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I think think there is every reason to be critical all the same... At the risk of repeating myself, the standard of officiating is at an absolute crisis point.

There is just so much wrong at the moment, there needs to be a seismic shift somehow. Almost a start again job.
 
Fox footy just now said afl released statement regarding the umpiring decisions at the end of our game. The deliberate out of bounds was correct, the bump/block was correct, and newnes kicking was incorrect, should of been gibbons.

They also talked briefly about if freo will contest the result. Does anyone know if any team has ever contested a result before and successfully ever got it overturned? Is that even possible?

I'm going to put up a completely random hypothetical which is probably impossible/could never happen, imagine we were in the grand final, 5 points up, 5 seconds left, opposition kicks the ball to a man right on the 50, he misses the ball, flops on purpose, and an umpire pays him a free kick for hands in the back even though our player is about 5 metres behind him. He goes on kicks a goal, they win. In this highly highly unlikely situation, could a team actually contest this result and get it overturned?
 

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Gw2_James said:
Fox footy just now said afl released statement regarding the umpiring decisions at the end of our game. The deliberate out of bounds was correct, the bump/block was correct, and newnes kicking was incorrect, should of been gibbons.

They also talked briefly about if freo will contest the result. Does anyone know if any team has ever contested a result before and successfully ever got it overturned? Is that even possible?

I'm going to put up a completely random hypothetical which is probably impossible/could never happen, imagine we were in the grand final, 5 points up, 5 seconds left, opposition kicks the ball to a man right on the 50, he misses the ball, flops on purpose, and an umpire pays him a free kick for hands in the back even though our player is about 5 metres behind him. He goes on kicks a goal, they win. In this highly highly unlikely situation, could a team actually contest this result and get it overturned?
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St Kilda v Fremantle (2006 AFL season) - Wikipedia

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Gw2_James said:
Fox footy just now said afl released statement regarding the umpiring decisions at the end of our game. The deliberate out of bounds was correct, the bump/block was correct, and newnes kicking was incorrect, should of been gibbons.

They also talked briefly about if freo will contest the result. Does anyone know if any team has ever contested a result before and successfully ever got it overturned? Is that even possible?

I'm going to put up a completely random hypothetical which is probably impossible/could never happen, imagine we were in the grand final, 5 points up, 5 seconds left, opposition kicks the ball to a man right on the 50, he misses the ball, flops on purpose, and an umpire pays him a free kick for hands in the back even though our player is about 5 metres behind him. He goes on kicks a goal, they win. In this highly highly unlikely situation, could a team actually contest this result and get it overturned?
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I'll put a question to you... Was anyone expecting anything else from the AFL?

The umpires are a protected species and the AFL not only regulates against criticism of them, but is constantly disingenuous when it comes to their performance. Just sweep it under the carpet and pretend there isn't a gigantic problem with the offiiciating of the game is the MO always.

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Gethelred said:
en.wikipedia.org

St Kilda v Fremantle (2006 AFL season) - Wikipedia

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Wow thanks for finding that, was a very interesting read! So back in 1900 i think it said, st kilda had lost a game, but was later overturned, resulting in their first ever win and setting precedent. So i guess yes you can get a result overturned if you have evidence. Also according to that topic, the game ends when the umpire signals for it to end, not when the siren goes. Interesting!
 
TheKITC said:
I'll put a question to you... Was anyone expecting anything else from the AFL?

The umpires are a protected species and the AFL not only regulates against criticism of them, but is constantly disingenuous when it comes to their performance. Just sweep it under the carpet and pretend there isn't a gigantic problem with the offiiciating of the game is the MO always.

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I think you're seeing it the wrong way.

Think of any given AFL controversy as a game of musical chairs, with every given topic for controversy a moment when the music stops. Most of the time, there's enough chairs to go around, but every now and then someone gets disproportionately punished because the music stopped at the wrong time.

Just thank our lucky stars we found a chair this time around.
 
Gw2_James said:
Wow thanks for finding that, was a very interesting read! So back in 1900 i think it said, st kilda had lost a game, but was later overturned, resulting in their first ever win and setting precedent. So i guess yes you can get a result overturned if you have evidence. Also according to that topic, the game ends when the umpire signals for it to end, not when the siren goes. Interesting!
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This one was in 2006, between Freo and the Saints, and the AFL overturned the result on review.


'Aints have been filthy ever since. Of course, it was under Demetriu rather than Gill, so the AFL responds to this shit differently now.
 

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Thought the umpires were pretty consistent tonight. Would have no complaints if that was the standard for the rest of the season.

They don't need to be involved in the game unnecessarily.
 
Yep, the were consistent as well as pretty good tonight.

But there were more examples of this dumb new "he tried" interpretation; where players missed the ball by hand or foot, but weren't pinged for illegal disposal. Happened with both sides, so this is not a "we was robbed" thing, I just hate that this interpretation has come into the game.

In 2 seasons players will be doing it "professionally" as a way of giving their team an advantage with an illegal disposal and the cries will come from the media that "this has to stop", and then we'll be in another rule interpretation circus ...
 
Foxy1302 said:
Didn’t notice them much tonight. Amazing how when you are controlling the game to a large extent, the odd umpiring error doesn’t hurt. [emoji3]
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Yeah but we dominated. Bit different to a back and forth match or a tight tussle.
 

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