Unique Players

[Yoda_]

With every team trying to get the upper hand each season, teams often have that one or two players who are 'unique' or the minority have in there team.

Who in your team is 'unique'? or who are you seriously considering as a 'unique' player?

I have some that I would like peoples thoughts on.

Andrew Carrazo (Carlton Blues) $381,300 (Defender/Midfielder
Past 5 years averages (games in brackets)
2010: 78.4 (22)
2009: 85.2 (14)
2008: 97.4 (21)
2007: 102.5 (22)
2006: 78.9 (19)
2005: 72.6 (20)

As you can see he has been a very durable player, apart from that one injury plagued season he has been a consistetly good scorer. Even last year he managed 4 scores over 100 + whilst 3 of his five lowest scores (11, 35, 42, 63, 67) really pushed his average down.

Jarred Brennan (Gold Coast Suns) $379,500 Forward/Midfielder
Past 5 years averages (games in brackets)
2010: 79.8 (19)
2009: 89.4 (18)
2008: 91.8 (22)
2007: 78.4 (21)
2006: 61.5 (17)

He has shown over the journey that he is capable of scoring BIG time, only thing is, consistency. His 2008 was sublime, playing every game and rewarded with a very handy 91.8 average. He could certainly be the wild card in my front half.

Patrick Vespremi (Western Bulldogs) $214,600 Forward
Past 5 years averages (games in brackets)
2010: 63.0 (1)
2009: 44.2 (4)
2008: 66.5 (4)

An irrepressible talent, 'Vez' has been traded for so should get games, and early, at such a low price surely he will increse his price with a couple of low games, a perfect cash cow perhaps?

Matt DeBoer (Fremantle Dockers) $277,900 - Forward/Midfielder
Past 5 years averages (games in brackets)
2010: 57.1 (18)
2009: 59.3 (17)

Has shown that he can play out a season having played 17 and 18 games respectively in his first two seasons, all things signal for a break out year for this young hard nut from W.A.

Have a couple more, but would like to know some peoples thoughts on these guys, and if there are any players you think are 'unique' players to your team.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

In short.

Carrazzo - A big No
Brennan - Not sure why people think he will become some sort of superstar. He was in a rubbish team last year and couldn't, why would it change in a different rubbish team?
Ves - His selection has some merit, they picked him to play the small forward that they need. It could be picked over Kraks who a lot of teams seem to have.
DeBoer - Doesn't look like a good scorer to me

There's a big difference between having unique players and taking unnecessary risks

 

[Selective Retention]

I think the aim of the game is to figure out which popular players to leave out rather than try pull a unique player out of your arse.

 

[dontaskfev]

they are unique for a reason

 

[ozzyoslo]

why take matt deboer @ 280 k when you take a rookie aged 20 to do the same?

 

[Hot Tiges]

It'd take a punt on Veszpa but that be it. Rest are hit and miss. DeBoer is interesting though, can't see it happening but who knows. I remember taking Trav Tuck over Andrew Swallow who had numbers similar to DeBoer 2 years ago.. spewing lol no doubt something similar will happen this year

 

[Super Gusto]

Going by the rate my teams and position discussions, there is going to be alot of very similar looking teams come round 1.

Picking up the right unique player could be the difference between winning and loosing some league games this year.

There are a few players in the mid to high range that will play every game barring injury and are more than likely going to improve on last years scores. These could be worth a look if you want to try something different

Scott Thompson 441,600
Travis Boak 471,300
Matt Priddis 529,400
Daniel Cross 554,500
Brent Stanton 449,600
Simon Black 455,000

 

[Atavistic]

they are unique for a reason

Yes, but you can improve your chances of winning the comp with the judicious selection of one or two unique players. But I'd leave it at just one or two - people can get into trouble by selecting a bunch of uniques who have nothing much going for them other than the fact that they've banged out a couple of good NAB Cup scores while playing for or against depleted teams.

I'll probably steer well clear of uniques this year, although players such as Mitch Duncan and Scott Selwood have appealed for various reasons.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Scott Thompson 441,600
Travis Boak 471,300
Matt Priddis 529,400
Daniel Cross 554,500
Brent Stanton 449,600
Simon Black 455,000

That's the sort of uniqueness you're looking for. I don't seenay point of wasting $2-300k on a player on the odd chance they could improve.

Whereas from the players above Boak, Priddis and Cross all look like very good options and they would be in very few teams. All of them are capable of averaging over 110 this year.

 

[Selective Retention]

I have 4 or 5 semi unique, one or two mentioned above. I think you need some sort of bridge from the top top shelf premiums and rookies but they need to have genuine reasons to think that they are going to improve.

 

[borrat]

when will people realise it makes no difference at all how similar teams are at the start

look at last years winner blue thunder not one of his intial team was a "unique"

and the same with team director in d/t in 09 not 1 unique player at all

ITS ALL ABOUT TRADING

for those who want to see blue thunders initial team its on yscc.com.au and search blue thunder in the search box

 

[Daniels]

I think the aim of the game is to figure out which popular players to leave out rather than try pull a unique player out of your arse.

when will people realise it makes no difference at all how similar teams are at the start

look at last years winner blue thunder not one of his intial team was a "unique"

ITS ALL ABOUT TRADING

I reckon its a combo of both of these statements + the biggest factor, the rookies ya have in side from the start is the key!

 

[DB10]

for those who want to see blue thunders initial team its on yscc.com.au and search blue thunder in the search box

couldn't find it, just says search result not found. link it?

 

[Daniels]

couldn't find it, just says search result not found. link it?

http://yscc.com.au/blog/2011preseason/the-year-of-blue-thunder/

 

[DB10]

thanks.

first time playing SuperCoach so curiosity and all.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

http://yscc.com.au/blog/2011preseason/the-year-of-blue-thunder/

That's unbelievable.

He made so many mistakes (by his own admissions) and was still pulling off massive scores.

If anything his team proves you want as many premiums in your team as you can and as early as you can. He finished with 21 'playing' premiums/keepers - very lucky considering his lack of trades.

 

[douls]

http://yscc.com.au/blog/2011preseason/the-year-of-blue-thunder/

It's an interesting read. Last year i finished 84th and got as high as 15th mid way through the year. Honestly, i felt like everything i did was right for 95% of the year, i got Cox in and he pumped out the 100's straight away etc, BUT what makes or breaks a decent side is the captains pick. Too many times i had Goddard picked only to change my mind at the last minute and pick Ablett. One of those games is when Goddard scored 188 v Richmond and i had it all week.... Ablett ended up scoring 121 but double these scores and it really is the difference of being right in it. If you get your captain right every week and you have a decent enough side you are half a chance to take this thing out. BUT, you really need to get it right or close enough every week.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Too many times i had Goddard picked only to change my mind at the last minute and pick Ablett. One of those games is when Goddard scored 188 v Richmond and i had it all week.... Ablett ended up scoring 121 but double these scores and it really is the difference of being right in it.

67 points

 

[douls]

That's unbelievable.

He made so many mistakes (by his own admissions) and was still pulling off massive scores.

If anything his team proves you want as many premiums in your team as you can and as early as you can. He finished with 21 'playing' premiums/keepers - very lucky considering his lack of trades.

I dont have historical data but i felt like last year was a more high scoring year. When you have your cheap players like Malceski av nearly 100, Jpod, Barlow etc all acting liking premiums coupled with Cox, Sandi, chappy doing there thing and Goddard ripping it to shreds it wasnt that hard. Ablett was also scoring massive early as captains picks.

It was like getting pocket Aces every hand. It wasnt hard. This year will be harder for many reasons and there are also injury concerns with so many premiums at the moment (in the forwards anyway)

 

[douls]

67 points

yes, multiplied by choosing the wrong captain in say 6 games....

but thanks for the calc

 

[Super Gusto]

when will people realise it makes no difference at all how similar teams are at the start

look at last years winner blue thunder not one of his intial team was a "unique"

and the same with team director in d/t in 09 not 1 unique player at all

ITS ALL ABOUT TRADING

for those who want to see blue thunders initial team its on yscc.com.au and search blue thunder in the search box

It may not make much difference to overall scores but it could be the difference between a league win or loss.

 

[AFaiL]

when will people realise it makes no difference at all how similar teams are at the start

look at last years winner blue thunder not one of his intial team was a "unique"

and the same with team director in d/t in 09 not 1 unique player at all

ITS ALL ABOUT TRADING

for those who want to see blue thunders initial team its on yscc.com.au and search blue thunder in the search box

That has to be fake. How the HECK did he get into, and stick in the top few hundred early on, and then win it overall with that stupid trading early on (not to mention the horrible selections in his initial squad)

just proves luck has a HEAP to do with it.

 

[lamaros]

It is all about trading.

And it's all about not picking any player for your side unless they are either,

A: Dirt Cheap (200k is not dirt cheap, 150k is not dirt cheap. Dirt cheap is 100k - you can read more about the value of 100k players vs 150-250k players for cash cows about the place. The tldr version is that unless they do a Barlow, you want the 100k players every single time.)

B: Going to score at least 95+ over the year.

Uniques don't mean shit unless you are going for a round win, and then they only matter if they get a big score every now and then, not that they average high.

 

[dlanod]

A: Dirt Cheap (200k is not dirt cheap, 150k is not dirt cheap. Dirt cheap is 100k - you can read more about the value of 100k players vs 150-250k players for cash cows about the place. The tldr version is that unless they do a Barlow, you want the 100k players every single time.)

I remember someone pushing this a lot last year, and the basic maths was that it's not necessarily true. If you can pick the big raisers in the $100k players, it's definitely true but overall the higher priced draftees provide a more reliable increase in price if you purchase those expected to do well at the start of the year. The $100k players generally have their average pumped up by players no one picked at the start of the year, e.g. Banfield last year, which didn't do anyone any good.

 

[Ed D]

Someone who usually scores consistently well but nobody picks him is Jude Bolton. Lenny Hayes is another not many normally start with. I wouldn't pick either but they're both good scorers.