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We are sitting at 8th position but I think we will slip down to 7th, leaving us with the 7th pick in the upcoming draft and also around pick 25 as well.
Then Hawkins with our third pick.

What are we looking to take in the draft?
Players around the pick 7 mark are expected to be are:

Matthew Luenberger- 203cm Ruckmen with very good skills and great mobility been playing very good football in the WAFL and made all australian at the championships.

Albert Proud- Powerful Midfielder from Queensland with good pace and a good penetrating left foot.

Leroy Jetta- Quick and Agile midfielder/forward from WA All Australian last two years is reasonably small but is lightning quick and has great footballing ability.

Jack Reiwoldt- Cousin of Nick 193cm KPP player who has been getting some very good numbers for tasmania in recent times, has great mobility and a good set of hands above his head.

One of Joel Selwood/James Sellar may slip to our pick as well I would take Selwood who is a Luke Ball type player good skills good in close with good speed. I have queries over James Sellar though seems a bit to Patrick Ryder for me, played ruckmen most of time but will be to short to play ruck in AFL and isnt up to playing KPP (would take Leunberger over him.)

Who to take out of that group if Selwood does not slip?
I would say we need a ruckmen Blake looks alright, King cant run out a game and we cant trust him to be out on the park every week and Ottens is best suited to the forward line, Leunberger is as good ruck prospect in the draft since Josh Fraser and will develop in to the teams number 1 ruckmen already beating 209cm ruckmen in the WAFL and also matching it with smaller ruckmen around the groud as well, can kick goals as well.

Leroy Jetta would add some class and flair that we lack in our midfield, has all the tricks that alot of aboriginal boys do and also has the ability to get 30 touches in a game as well, or you could chuck him down forward and he can kick you 5 goals.
 
well we may not need a ruckman as we have blake and west coming through...I think proud or jetta would both be good for speed in the midfield...Not sure about if we need riewoldt with hawkins coming but who knows these to might make a very good pair in the forward line...selwood would be good.

i think jetta would be the best pick
 

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I am not overly excited about using pick 7 on a ruckman but we may have to. King looks shot, Blake is only average (this may change in the coming years), West was not overly rated when drafted and looks years away and Ottens looks likely to be played as a forward at Geelong in the years to come. Leuenberger by all reports is a gun and may be good enough to play as soon as next year as he is currently playing seniors in the WAFL. Either that or try and trade for Meesen without using our first pick. Maybe using Kelly as bait.
 
I like the look of Jack Reiwoldt could he be a Adam Goodes type player i think we will be able to get him with our pick, he has already impressed at senior level in the vfl so he could play straight away.
 
Jack-Packenham said:
I am not overly excited about using pick 7 on a ruckman but we may have to. King looks shot, Blake is only average (this may change in the coming years), West was not overly rated when drafted and looks years away and Ottens looks likely to be played as a forward at Geelong in the years to come. Leuenberger by all reports is a gun and may be good enough to play as soon as next year as he is currently playing seniors in the WAFL. Either that or try and trade for Meesen without using our first pick. Maybe using Kelly as bait.
dont see why people under rate ruckmen so much, makes it alot easier for the midfielders if there playing under a good ruckmen....then when they get good like cox and everitt they are praised Dean Cox would be up there in the first players id pick for my side (Leunberger is a clone).
 
I think out of that group Proud would be the best pick for us. His got Grunt and gets clearances also with pace and good skill. It what our midfield needs. I don't think at this time we need another ruckman. And he could well go before our pick. Another option is that we use Kelly and our first pick to move up a pick or 2, this may not work though. Then with our second pick we should go for either Houli or Boak. But i also think that serller may be worth a punt though. You can't lose talent over night and he has this. sounds alot like justin longmuir. Would that be an alrite comparison LF?
 
One that hasn't been mentioned is Daniel Connors. Classy left footer with good speed not unlike Dal Santo in style. If you get a chance have a look in afl.com.au in the archived videos (free) under the Vic Country vs SA game. The kid has quality. Otherwise Proud appeals to me as well. If Kelly was to be traded we could probably get both. Would set our midfield up for a while.

If Kingsley was traded for a third round pick hopefully Sheringham or Boak may still be around.
 
year of the cat said:
If Kingsley was traded for a third round pick hopefully Sheringham or Boak may still be around.

My feeling is that they will be both taken by then. Lings Face what is the likelyhood of dawes getting picked up? I've seen him play a little bit would he be worth having a punt on. We could maybe pick him up with a fourth round pick or is we get rid of Kent and get a third round using it on him.
 
selwood if we trade kelly
seller if hes available and we havent traded kelly (i think kelly might come through next year...it could be just a blimp on the rader)
as for the ruckman...i agree he would be an awsome pick up. maybe our second round pick plus kelly for a top 10..... and then we can take 2 out of the 3 mentioned:) .i think jack riewoldt will slip to 20's
 
bashar said:
selwood if we trade kelly
seller if hes available and we havent traded kelly (i think kelly might come through next year...it could be just a blimp on the rader)
as for the ruckman...i agree he would be an awsome pick up. maybe our second round pick plus kelly for a top 10..... and then we can take 2 out of the 3 mentioned:) .i think jack riewoldt will slip to 20's

Selwood is a good chance to be around for our first pick - talk is that he will slip down as a result of osteitis pubis. Although he is rated as very good at the clearances, his lack of pace worries me (along with his injury). Proud or Connors have pace, great disposal and are good clearance players, perhaps a better fit for us? Saw Sellar at the Vic Country vs SA match and did not impress me at all. He may have been overcoming illness but he lacked intensity and physical presence.

Leuenberger would be a safe choice as he will clearly be an A-grade ruckman, great mobility and good mark with neat disposal for a big man. Not too sure another ruckman is our highest priority right now. However I can't help thinking back to the Fiora-Pavlich disaster by the tigers and hope we don't do the same. I think that drafting is a lot more sophisticated these days and that those sorts of mistakes are unlikely.
 
year of the cat said:
Selwood is a good chance to be around for our first pick - talk is that he will slip down as a result of osteitis pubis.

OP? I think you've got the knee and groin regions mixed up (if not, it's news to me).

Oh, and no thanks to Jetta.
 

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I find it interesting that Cox is held up as a reference . Cox was a Rookie and as I have mentioned before , I feel we should carry a Rookie ruckman at all times. The ruck is a high wear position and we ahould have more options on our list than we currently have.A Rookie allows us to give a kid an extra 2 years before making the list , West may as well be a Rookie he seems 2 seasons away min.

But we are here now and I think our rucks are thin.Yes we have Mooney,Playfair and who everelse that can pinch hit but really this kid from WA gives us a chance to give us the best talent injection to our rucks since King.

I also think the draft order could yet be effected by draft camp results and the TAC finals results. Lets say the Falcons get to the final , whos to say one really top game from a Boak or Sheringham cant jump up the order like Thomas last year. Id like to know why we passed on Pierce after he was so quick in Draft Camp results , looking at him now playing at Port he would be very handy.

It still a bit early to make ultimates judgements I feel.Somebody with pace that can kick 60M would be a good addition. Would Proud fit this role?
 
The Hulkster said:
I like the look of Jack Reiwoldt could he be a Adam Goodes type player i think we will be able to get him with our pick, he has already impressed at senior level in the vfl so he could play straight away.

Saw Reiwoldt play last week on ABC2, did quite a good job on the park and would be a great pick if we weren't already picking up Hawkins.

Therefore that leaves us in a pinch, do we pick up another tall forward, a ruck or an explosive midfielder.

I think the latter will be the option. Proud has impressed , so has Jetta, so it will be interesting. Pick 7 is a good pick, there is still really good options there.

Can't wait for 2007.
 
The Hulkster said:
I like the look of Jack Reiwoldt could he be a Adam Goodes type player i think we will be able to get him with our pick, he has already impressed at senior level in the vfl so he could play straight away.

Saw Reiwoldt play last week on ABC2, did quite a good job on the park and would be a great pick if we weren't already picking up Hawkins.

Therefore that leaves us in a pinch, do we pick up another tall forward, a ruck or an explosive midfielder.

I think the latter will be the option. Proud has impressed , so has Jetta, so it will be interesting. Pick 7 is a good pick, there is still really good options there.

Can't wait for 2007.

Draft is in November ?? Is this correct ??
 
GeeCat said:
OP? I think you've got the knee and groin regions mixed up (if not, it's news to me).

Oh, and no thanks to Jetta.

You are correct - is knee problem -

Are you saying we should take Jetta with our first pick? My concern with him was lack of size and maybe lacking penetration with his kicking. The couple of games I saw him play in the U18 champs he got a lot of the footy but chipped it around a fair bit. Pace is terrific though.
 
year of the cat said:
You are correct - is knee problem -

Are you saying we should take Jetta with our first pick? My concern with him was lack of size and maybe lacking penetration with his kicking. The couple of games I saw him play in the U18 champs he got a lot of the footy but chipped it around a fair bit. Pace is terrific though.

I don't really want Jetta for our first pick either.

I think if Sellar is available at Geelong's first pick, they will find it very hard to say no. Its not every day you get to choose a Hawkins and a Sellar in one draft.

The second round pick will be a bit of wait and see what happens. Hopefully one of the A class midfielders will slide. There's usually always 1 or 2 that go under the radar. I'd be very happy if a Hislop or Proud lasted that long. If not maybe Grigg? Not the pacy midfielder we are after, but a chance for pick 25ish. I'm not overally enthusiastic about taking Boak or Sheringham that high. Boaks skills aren't great.

Round 3- Tom Hawkins (yay!):D

Round 4- I'm happy to take a risk with Rhyce Prismall. Turn him into a goal kicking midfielder with height. James Hird type? Plus, he is a bottom age player. Could potentially be taken a lot higher in 2007 draft if he is over looked. Maybe an early bargain?

Round 5- Who knows? Maybe Tippert if still around? Development ruckman/ key forward who hasn't been playing AFL very long with massive scope for improvement!

Pretty tough to judge at the moment. Will know a lot more after the draft camp. Hopefully we don't get sucked into a Steven Owen type again!
 
Budda 230 said:
I don't really want Jetta for our first pick either.

I think if Sellar is available at Geelong's first pick, they will find it very hard to say no. Its not every day you get to choose a Hawkins and a Sellar in one draft.

The second round pick will be a bit of wait and see what happens. Hopefully one of the A class midfielders will slide. There's usually always 1 or 2 that go under the radar. I'd be very happy if a Hislop or Proud lasted that long. If not maybe Grigg? Not the pacy midfielder we are after, but a chance for pick 25ish. I'm not overally enthusiastic about taking Boak or Sheringham that high. Boaks skills aren't great.

Round 3- Tom Hawkins (yay!):D

Round 4- I'm happy to take a risk with Rhyce Prismall. Turn him into a goal kicking midfielder with height. James Hird type? Plus, he is a bottom age player. Could potentially be taken a lot higher in 2007 draft if he is over looked. Maybe an early bargain?

Round 5- Who knows? Maybe Tippert if still around? Development ruckman/ key forward who hasn't been playing AFL very long with massive scope for improvement!

Pretty tough to judge at the moment. Will know a lot more after the draft camp. Hopefully we don't get sucked into a Steven Owen type again!


If you were going tall I would take Leuenberger over Sellar - you are then getting both the best ruckman and best key forward in the draft. As for who would be left over for your 2nd round pick - Grigg and Hislop may still be there but they are pretty much the same type as what we already have (i.e Bartel, Corey etc). Makes that pick a difficult one. Proud will be gone. Perhaps we should be looking to trade up for another late first round pick?

I would consider Tippert if you went small with the first couple of picks only.
 

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Bomber has already stated that drafting players that can run and carry is the priority this year. Expect him to go for Jetta/Proud with first pick and Connors/Houlli with second pick.

If we trade for more picks I think he may be after Moss/Hurley/Collard who will all be picks 13-30.
 
Jack-Packenham said:
Bomber has already stated that drafting players that can run and carry is the priority this year. Expect him to go for Jetta/Proud with first pick and Connors/Houlli with second pick.

If we trade for more picks I think he may be after Moss/Hurley/Collard who will all be picks 13-30.

Would be more than happy with that. Connors won't unfortunately be around for our second pick though.
 
Jack-Packenham said:
Bomber has already stated that drafting players that can run and carry is the priority this year. Expect him to go for Jetta/Proud with first pick and Connors/Houlli with second pick.

If we trade for more picks I think he may be after Moss/Hurley/Collard who will all be picks 13-30.

There is definately a need for players who run and carry the ball. I've only seen Jetta play twice, but I couldn't help but think he was in the David Rodan mould as a junior. Will Jetta be able to it cut in AFL?

I rate Proud very highly, but I doubt that he is worth pick 7-8. His championship form was solid without setting the world a light in the final 2 matches.

I don't think that James Sellar will be a ruckman at an AFL club. I think he will develop into a KKP and maybe pinch hit a bit in the ruck. I know Sellar's form in the championships wasn't great but when I saw him in the Australia vs Ireland match at Telstra Dome, I thought I had seen the Number 1 draft pick. He was great. He could potentially be a premiership winner for the club that gets him.

If we trade for a late 1st round- early 2nd round, we could still have a chance at Proud or one of the other pacy carriers.

What people have to remember is that this draft is good because of the talent of the KPP. What Geelong really lack is KPP, especially match winning KPP. Yes, we are getting probably the best in Tom Hawkins. Why not get a second to make our spine look really dangerous?

In the last three drafts, we have recruited pacy, ball carriers with our first draft pick. 2005: Varcoe, 2004: Prismall, 2003: Tenace. Its time for a change with our first pick. We have pacy players coming through.

The most likely delistings/changes to our list will be KPP's in McCarthy, Kingsley, Gardiner, Lonergan and maybe Spencer. They can't all be replaced by pacy midfielders. The list needs to have the correct balance and structure.

Having said all that, if Sellar is available, Bomber and Wellsy will be thinking most of what I said. So Sellar will definately be high on the radar. I hope so any way.:o
 
year of the cat said:
Are you saying we should take Jetta with our first pick? My concern with him was lack of size and maybe lacking penetration with his kicking. The couple of games I saw him play in the U18 champs he got a lot of the footy but chipped it around a fair bit. Pace is terrific though.

I'm not much of a Jetta fan.

I've got too many reservations surrounding a guy his size, and whilst I'll concede he has the potential to be something special, there's just too many queries. Unaccountable, kicking is too hit and miss, and he plays a little too outside as a receiver to my liking (some will say that's precisely what we need, but I beg to differ).

Pace and game-breaking talent is all good and well, but I think Jetta is a prime example of someone we can easily fall over for on the basis of our perceived 'need', yet overlook the bread and butter.
 
GeeCat said:
I'm not much of a Jetta fan.

I've got too many reservations surrounding a guy his size, and whilst I'll concede he has the potential to be something special, there's just too many queries. Unaccountable, kicking is too hit and miss, and he plays a little too outside as a receiver to my liking (some will say that's precisely what we need, but I beg to differ).

Pace and game-breaking talent is all good and well, but I think Jetta is a prime example of someone we can easily fall over for on the basis of our perceived 'need', yet overlook the bread and butter.

Couldn't agree with you more. Jetta is not quite what we need. I have thrown up Connors a couple of times. Do you think he has the class to warrant taking with our first pick? Would love to get him with our second but he won't last that long.
 

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