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Autopsy V Geelong - Roast, Toast & Changes

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Tonight has really shown the significance that Vickery has to our structure. Without him we are nothing, and it's really bloody scary knowing that our structure can be undone so easily. I seriously don't know what we would do without him.

Also, to the Vickery haters: get a clue or stfu

edit: I'm absolutely in awe from Vlastuin. He's going to be amazing.
 
Angriest I've been at the team all year. The 2nd half was cellar-dweller football.

King can hold his head up, the rest can get stuffed.

I hope Hardwick preheated the oven because I reckon the team needs a good bake.
 

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King and Chappy only two who played well, maybe Dusty and Titch early.

I'm the same, most disappointed I've been this season...we were shit.

Need to turn it around next week! Hopefully Tuck & Foley return.
 
thing im so upset about is that last year we competed against teams we never beat (like geelong). held our own last year. gave confidence. but something is amiss this year. we are a mid table team, and hopefully in a season or two we can go into games really thinking about beating EVERY team
 
Who do we bring in for vickery, if he can't play? Elton, Mcbean? Personally i would bring in Griff and give him a go and play him forward for a couple of weeks, also looks like orren is coming in for Maric. Batch and helbig come in for houli and Grigg also.
 
Now we know why the last 2 weeks the top teams have put their best tagger on Deledio and not Cotchin.
Cotchin may get the ball a lot, but he doesn't hurt the opposition. His field kicking has never been great, but this year it has been very poor. Far too many outright clangers. Couple that with his unreliable kicking for goal, and he is nowhere near a top midfielder. He may be the best hard-ball getter I've ever seen at Richmond, but so what if he doesn't do something with it.
 
No excuses for that. None.

Still carrying way too many poorly skilled, ill-disciplined, panicky, dumb footballers and they're dragging our better players down with them.
Can i add Timid??
 

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A poor, poor performance...worst of the year by far. Repeatedly turnover the ball like that in our defensive 50 and we'll loose to all but GWS and Melbourne.

Positives
  • King kicking 4
  • Maric fighting on despite clearly being injured.
  • Ellis/Vlastuin showing some good stuff
  • Pettard/Grigg weren't bad (compared to other performances this year)
Negatives
  • One and a half quarters without a fit Ruckman
  • Cotchins game. :(
  • Deledio...did you play today??? :oops:
  • Knights offered nothing other than a few long bombs for goal.
  • We were so, so sloppy with possession and lazy in providing options. Horrible.
  • The umpiring. We wouldn't have won given how easy we made it for them, but it very frustrating.
  • All the head ducking that goes on.
Changes
Out: Knights/Newman
In: A.Edwards, One of Foley/Conca/Tuck/Arnott
 
People will hate this but hey reality sucks.
The longer dim a backs guys like Jackson, Grigg and white the sooner he will get sacked. Not of afl standard and if he can't see that then he had nfi.
Williams will coach next year as we'll miss the finals
 
No excuses for that. None.

Still carrying way too many poorly skilled, ill-disciplined, panicky, dumb footballers and they're dragging our better players down with them.


Yep, same players get found out every time we play the better teams, same thing against the Pies.

For changes id say Orren to replace Vickery if he can't play. Hopefully Maric is fine as well as Tyrone, it'll be hell if both miss.

Out: White & Vicks & Ricky
In: Tuck & Orren & Foley
 
Now we know why the last 2 weeks the top teams have put their best tagger on Deledio and not Cotchin.
Cotchin may get the ball a lot, but he doesn't hurt the opposition. His field kicking has never been great, but this year it has been very poor. Far too many outright clangers. Couple that with his unreliable kicking for goal, and he is nowhere near a top midfielder. He may be the best hard-ball getter I've ever seen at Richmond, but so what if he doesn't do something with it.
He has to learn to trust his teamates,At the moment he thinks he has too set the tone/example.
 

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Perspective

First half we played good competitive football

Suddenly at the late stages of the 2 nd quarer, we lose Vickery and Maric rolls his ankle
Cotchin was selected yet was clearly injured ( why pick a player who is injured?)

Half time we are down by 5 points

3rd quarter, No ruck options, McGuanne who was a dangerous forward for us is playing in the ruck
Midfield problems
Game over

We MUST never play injured players
White doesn't cut it against big bodies
Vlastuin is a great footballer...I forget that this was only his 2 nd game
Rance, Chaplin and Morris beat their opponents
King best for us
McGuanne another great game
Sheds good
We missed Tucky
Orren needs to come into the side- Vickery won't play next week
 
19 pts up and playing ok and then we decide to have a holiday in bali- ffs how about applying pressure coaching staff and players?

we were soft tonight- and at least 4 blokes need to go.

really quite embarrassing.

disposal shite, cotchin whats up with him coughing it up at least 5 times.
 
Shame injuries killed any chance of seeing if we could respond in that second half. And it seemed our players were getting as frustrated with the umpiring as I was. Can't blame the ump's, but it seemed to get to us, and really took the wind out of our sails at an important point (or two) in the game. Note to umps: we're already the masters of gifting opposition teams cheap goals... we don't need your help, thanks!

If neither Maric or Vickery are right next week, who comes in? Obviously Orren will get a run. Not sure either Elton or McBean are anywhere near ready, and I really don't want to go back to X. Maybe Griff to play Vickery's forward/ruck role?
 
Who played on Tomahawk? Was it Rance or Chaplin? Either way, he got only a kick in the first half and I think that was really impressive. I'm disappointed with what happened to the rucks but the team needs to way a find to win when everything starts going to shit.. wasn't good enough.
 
What can a supporter say after a game like that tonight?!?!?....thank god we are not like the Dees?!?!?...
Seriously we have a fair ways to go yet....keep a professional attitude and regroup for next week...
Keep getting games into our younger recruits...learn the game plan....minimize out mistakes...and keeping on doing the one percenters...
No one owns us a Grand Final...we have to fight to earn the right to even play in one...let alone win one...
Keep our heads high tigers...lets not lose our collective nerve just yet...
Talent alone will only get us so far...
We need to be a lot more like Geelong in professional attitude...
We failed tonight...but we are not beaten or finished with just yet...
Go Tiges....
 

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