Boxing Vale Muhammad Ali / Cassius Clay

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The problem with Marciano is that there are so many better, both in his own style, and in fighters that could counter him.

Very fortunate to have fought when he did, from a legacy perspective.

his career is tainted with his involvement with the 'mob' and some of the good fighters around his time which he never fought.
 

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A great boxer who also did some great things outside the ring. Very sad.
 

Demosthenes

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Nonsense. It's just our parochial bias because he played a sport we've grown up with.
He said statistically. Bradman is more standard deviations above his rivals than any of the other usually cited contenders for the greatest in any other sport.
 

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He said statistically. Bradman is more standard deviations above his rivals than any of the other usually cited contenders for the greatest in any other sport.

Ali is the only three time lineal champ in heavyweight history.

No that it REALLY matters, statistics are almost irrelevant in boxing. It's very much a 'feel' rating, as opposed to cricket which is heavily statistics driven.
 

Demosthenes

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Ali is the only three time lineal champ in heavyweight history.

No that it REALLY matters, statistics are almost irrelevant in boxing. It's very much a 'feel' rating, as opposed to cricket which is heavily statistics driven.
'Three time lineal champ' is not a statistical measure.
 

Jade

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'Three time lineal champ' is not a statistical measure.

Of course it is.

No. Times Lineal Champ:

Muhammad Ali: 3
George Foreman: 2
Floyd Patterson: 2
et al

Like all statistics, you need context to interpret it, but it is a statistical measure, make no mistake.
 

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I just finished watching the Ken Burns doco series on him. Fantastic

 

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I just finished watching the Ken Burns doco series on him. Fantastic

On SBSOnDemand

Thank you for the heads up
 

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I just finished watching the Ken Burns doco series on him. Fantastic


what I didn't know about Ali, was he was backed by the syndicate of white wealthy businessmen to keep him out of reach of the mafia/ underworld. Especially given the journey Sonny Liston travelled and endured.

great doco
 

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