Vale Phoenix Spicer

[weltschmerz]

The referrals at the bottom of the article answer that question. Very sad.

 

[KiwiRoo]

Thats sad news. Just looked to me like a good decent young fella who's gone way too soon

 

[fusion]

Sad to hear this. 23 is so young. Condolencences to his family and friends.

 

[pupstar]

Anyone feeling like they ever need a chat my message box is always open.

Well done Duck great post

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Vale Phoenix
Just seemed like the sweetest guy every time he popped up in NMFC media, and by all reports this was the case.
Absolutely tragic to have lost you so soon, and thinking of family and friends.
Honored to have had your name in my BF tag for 3 years.

Rest easy brother.

 

[energyquant]

Just dropping in to pass on my condolences.

 

[Possession]

Really shocked by this, he seemed like a wonderful young man. There's a clip of Sheezel kicking a goal during the Swans game at Marvel in 2023 and he and Phoenix are going off in response, always made me smile.

 

[Ry009]

Just read the news, absolutely heartbreaking.

RIP Phoenix.

 

[RooInNorthLondon]

I hope it is not drugs or any addiction. No idea if it is relevant here but it is worth reflecting that a worrying number of young athletes have fallen to heart conditions in the last couple of decades. That is a big talking point in soccer globally and there have been increasing incidences in other high endurance sports including distance running and triathlon. Lots of theories (over-training, supplements, pushing through respiratory illness straining/weakening the heart etc.) but not many answers.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I hope it is not drugs or any addiction. No idea if it is relevant here but it is worth reflecting that a worrying number of young athletes have fallen to heart conditions in the last couple of decades. That is a big talking point in soccer globally and there have been increasing incidences in other high endurance sports including distance running and triathlon. Lots of theories (over-training, supplements, pushing through respiratory illness straining/weakening the heart etc.) but not many answers.

If it were a heart condition that would’ve probably been reported by now

 

[hilly]

If it were a heart condition that would’ve probably been reported by now

Could just wait and see?

 

[Twinkletoes]

Seriously

Leave the morose speculation out of this and allow Phoenix’s family and friends to grieve in peace FFS.

 

[Orange Peanut]

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Newspapers have been using the Lifeline reference as shorthand for reporting deaths as suicide without actually saying it for years.
Extremely sad for Phoenix's loved ones to have an extra layer of complication to their grief because of this.
My thoughts are with all who loved him.

 

[koshari]

Newspapers have been using the Lifeline reference as shorthand for reporting deaths as suicide without actually saying it for years.
Extremely sad for Phoenix's loved ones to have an extra layer of complication to their grief because of this.
My thoughts are with all who loved him.

yes its become the "is helping police with inquireies" in place as guilty as far k or the "board is 100 percent behind him" with regard to his gone...

 

[sross]

From the Scandals and Rumours board

"From a very good source I was told he had a seizure and choked. Not alcohol or anything related just bad luck. No one was around otherwise probably survives "

 

[ferball]

From the Scandals and Rumours board

"From a very good source I was told he had a seizure and choked. Not alcohol or anything related just bad luck. No one was around otherwise probably survives "

That's so sad.

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

I hope he has avoided the scuttlebutt from the arsehats that usually surrounds the premature passing of an athlete and their abhorrent conspiracy theory.

That beautiful smile is lost forever, and that alone is terribly sad.

RIP Phoenix.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Newspapers have been using the Lifeline reference as shorthand for reporting deaths as suicide without actually saying it for years.

True, but since suicide is the leading cause of death in Australians under 50, I suspect that a lot of the time the helplines are added when a young person dies without any confirmed cause, just in case.

 

[gokangas]

True, but since suicide is the leading cause of death in Australians under 50, I suspect that a lot of the time the helplines are added when a young person dies without any confirmed cause, just in case.

Nup. it's a signal. Looks like wrongly included this time but there is a deliberate choice made to include the mental health tags.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Nup. it's a signal. Looks like wrongly included this time but there is a deliberate choice made to include the mental health tags.

Im not saying using helplines isn’t a signal.

But a lot of the time journos won’t know the cause of death when the initial story about a prominent deceased person goes out, so they’ll add it through an abundance of caution.

In other words, while the helplines are used in basically all mainstream news stories where reporters have confirmed the cause of death was suicide (including ones that aren’t being reported as such due to fears of prompting copycat behaviour), the helplines are also used frequently in cases where young people die and the cause of death isn’t yet known. Because, sadly, it’s a very common cause of death in young people.

It’s not always a signal that the journo knows something about the cause of death that the reader doesn’t.

 

[gokangas]

Im not saying using helplines isn’t a signal.

But a lot of the time journos won’t know the cause of death when the initial story about a prominent deceased person goes out, so they’ll add it through an abundance of caution.

In other words, while the helplines are used in basically all mainstream news stories where there are confirmed suicides that aren’t being reported as such, the helplines are also used frequently in cases where young people die and the cause of death isn’t yet known. Because, sadly, it’s a very common cause of death in young people.

It’s not always a signal that the journo knows something about the cause of death that the reader doesn’t.

My experience suggests otherwise but it seems this time they got it wrong.

 

[Makeshift Park]

My experience suggests otherwise but it seems this time they got it wrong.

It could just be that the editor cares about the wellbeing of their readers, because it’s bloody depressing to read about a seemingly happy and talented young indigenous bloke who’s unexpectedly died so young.