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angryant said:
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Now, from memory the way the National footy league was sold to SA and WA, our teams were invited to join the AFL - not an expended VFL.
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Not Brisbane (Bears) and West Coast. They were invited into an expanded VFL, where it was stipulated that ALL finals would be in Melbourne.
That had changed by the time of Adelaide, Freo and Port.
 
Jarryd_S said:
The inferority complex continues. Interstatians keep telling themselves we care about them, when in fact we couldn't care less who's in the GF. Seriously, if the GF was WC v Collingwood, do you really think I'd want Collingwood to win because they're Victorian?
Yeh but no-one wants Collingwood to win anything (unless they're playing Port)

Its not us who are feeling inferior, its your Premier, Opposition Leader, the game's greatest icon Barassi and several other living legends of the game - not exactly nobodies. Imagine if the SA or WA Premier started whinging that they weren't winning anything, would that mean that Victorians are the ones with an inferiority complex. Of course not, you'd all be too busy laughing.
 
The way to fix the interstate dominance is simple. Interstate teams must put their hand into their pockets and be told to build bigger stadiums so Victorians can travel and support their teams. At the moment - their money is going into locking us out and goes to extra player support and facilities fans can't use.

Victoria has venues which allow interstate travellers to support their teams and this is not reciprocated. I barrock for the Bulldogs and had no chance of getting a seat at a sub standard low capacity ground in Subiaco. The same goes for the rest of the interstate venues excluding Telstra Stadium in Sydney which holds 80,000.

How great it would be for the competition if Melbourne Clubs stayed at their crap 35,000 capacity grounds and then requested finals at these grounds to retain their home ground advantage, rather than building some of the best stadiums in the world to make for an even playing arrangement where people from both teams can actually book a seat and get in to support their team - especially in a final, being a special occasion most would travel for.

It is a joke of a sport when 1 game determines a finals result in a one sided supported game, which is based on ladder position from a fixture which assists interstate sides by way of 12 absolute home ground advantage games, at least 5 little under neutral games at TD and MCG and a few absolute away games to other states.

Friday and Saturday nights games were not of a finals atmosphere, being one sided supported - it is bad enough watching these games during the season. Thank god the GF is at the MCG, who would want to watch a GF anywhere else in an atmosphere like we saw over the weekend?

Most of the money made from TV rights is where same town teams play and there is a proper footy atmosphere and both teams truly even. That is an event SA and WA rave about twice a year. Most of these games are Victorian based - this is why when Vic Footy is perceived as sick it needs to be looked at, like it would if 4 of the interstate teams finished bottom four this year and over the last 3 years there were interstate teams finish bottom 2 and others not make the finals past week 2.
 

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RoccaRoo said:
Well and Simply said Jarryd, but I don't think the Port Supporters understand Logic and I don't think they can comprehend that the AFL is the Former VFL league and that the VFL/AFL always has been the premier comp and that the SANFL has been and always will be the 2nd Grade Comp.

if thats the case stop recruiting from interstate
 
Treikhis said:
The way to fix the interstate dominance is simple. Interstate teams must put their hand into their pockets and be told to build bigger stadiums so Victorians can travel and support their teams. At the moment - their money is going into locking us out and goes to extra player support and facilities fans can't use.

Victoria has venues which allow interstate travellers to support their teams and this is not reciprocated. I barrock for the Bulldogs and had no chance of getting a seat at a sub standard low capacity ground in Subiaco. The same goes for the rest of the interstate venues excluding Telstra Stadium in Sydney which holds 80,000.

How great it would be for the competition if Melbourne Clubs stayed at their crap 35,000 capacity grounds and then requested finals at these grounds to retain their home ground advantage, rather than building some of the best stadiums in the world to make for an even playing arrangement where people from both teams can actually book a seat and get in to support their team - especially in a final, being a special occasion most would travel for.

It is a joke of a sport when 1 game determines a finals result in a one sided supported game, which is based on ladder position from a fixture which assists interstate sides by way of 12 absolute home ground advantage games, at least 5 little under neutral games at TD and MCG and a few absolute away games to other states.

Friday and Saturday nights games were not of a finals atmosphere, being one sided supported - it is bad enough watching these games during the season. Thank god the GF is at the MCG, who would want to watch a GF anywhere else in an atmosphere like we saw over the weekend?

Most of the money made from TV rights is where same town teams play and there is a proper footy atmosphere and both teams truly even. That is an event SA and WA rave about twice a year. Most of these games are Victorian based - this is why when Vic Footy is perceived as sick it needs to be looked at, like it would if 4 of the interstate teams finished bottom four this year and over the last 3 years there were interstate teams finish bottom 2 and others not make the finals past week 2.

non-victorian teams would find it harder winning at whitten oval or vic park than at the dome
 
Captain Wacky said:
The Herald Sun ( with its stories being syndicated into the other Murdoch tabloids) is largely to blame for this. I think anyone who actually goes to Victoria and talks to people knows that most Vics only really care about their own club, and generally, for example, hate Collingwood more than any interstate club.

But there is obviously a noisy minorty of footy's old guard and the media who have a forum in the Hun and like to beat this idiotic drum. Unfortunately it misrepresents Victorians at large.

2001, 2002, 2003 GFs most victorians who didn't support either Ess or Coll supported Brisbane. An interstate team winning was better than Collingwood winning.
 
Treikhis said:
The way to fix the interstate dominance is simple. Interstate teams must put their hand into their pockets and be told to build bigger stadiums so Victorians can travel and support their teams. At the moment - their money is going into locking us out and goes to extra player support and facilities fans can't use.

Victoria has venues which allow interstate travellers to support their teams and this is not reciprocated. I barrock for the Bulldogs and had no chance of getting a seat at a sub standard low capacity ground in Subiaco. The same goes for the rest of the interstate venues excluding Telstra Stadium in Sydney which holds 80,000.

No worries. WC & Freo can take a fairer slice of the tv rights earnings (ie based on our actual contribution) and build one. But that will probably mean the instantaneous death of the roos and dogs.
 

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