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Do Collingwood need to enter a rebuild phase?
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"But but the AA positions are the best indication..."
The AA is still the best way of determining how good a player was during the season. Definitely the most fair award, and also the most thought out given the AA selectors usually take months to decide. Again, the AA award has its issues, but it is better than every other award.
How good does a 22 year old player have to be that people are using your selection on the bench of the AA team as a negative?
Despite it being your 3rd consecutive AA guernsey after only 4 years at the level...
Despite it being your 3rd consecutive AA guernsey after only 4 years at the level...
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Versatility an important criteria when assessing GOATness.
He just needs to add half back and half forward, and that will be 5 different positions in which he'll be selected in the AA team...
Again, I think Daicos is a top 10 player in the competition, but that is not your assertion. You are saying he is the best, so that means a higher standard is being set.
If he is a top 10 player in the competition being on the bench is fine, which is what I believe, but if he is the best player in the competition like you believe then being on the bench is a failure.
But it shows that he was not the best player in any given position for the 2025 season, hence why he ended up on the bench.
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Lets face it mate he is talking about now, who is the best now and it's not Daicos. All the players he mentioned are ahead of him at the end of the 2025 season not two or three years ago.
Yep, sure they are.
Glad you finally are seeing reason.
We can lock the Daicos thread, revist it in a few years when more information about Daicos progression is known.
How many years straight does he need to have multiple top 3 finishes in the major individual awards for you to get on board?
Because he's currently got a streak of 3 seasons.
Will 5 seasons be enough for you? Because that will be a longer streak than any other player has managed since all three awards have been available.
I just want to see him become the best player in the competition and have that being sustained for a few years.
I am not denying he is a great player, and if he keeps his current performances up he will be considered a great of the game, but I don't think he has been the best player in any year yet. It could happen, might even probably happen, but it has not happened yet.
I didn't create a list, and I have no idea where Daicos ranked that year other than the fact he clearly was not the best player of that season. From memory he was good that year, but 2023 was a while ago now and I don't tend to remember opposition players in a detailed enough way to have a full memory of what they did 3 years ago.
I have general impressions though from years past, like knowing in the late 2000's and early 2010's Ablett Jnr was the best player in the country. I can't remember who was the 5th through 10th best players of those seasons.
You are taking fagic to new and unseen levels here.
You are now arguing the prime piece of evidence for player ratings under-rating Daicos is that the player ratings over-rated him in his most recent match.
I guess you could explain to us exactly why the player ratings system gets Bontempelli so right and Daicos so wrong seeing you know all about it....
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Indeed.You are taking fagic to new and unseen levels here.
You are now arguing the prime piece of evidence for player ratings under-rating Daicos is that the player ratings over-rated him in his most recent match.
I guess you could explain to us exactly why the player ratings system gets Bontempelli so right and Daicos so wrong seeing you know all about it....
Because I'm the one who simultaneously talks up PLaYeR RaTiNGZ and talks down Daicos' Preliminary Final performance, to make it clear to everyone how fried my brain is....
The old Fadge deflection trick. We are all familiar with it by now.
Why exactly do you think the player ratings correctly rates Bontempelli number 1 player in the last 3 seasons but the same system consistently rates Daicos as a fringe top 10 midfielder in the competition?
I mean you are Mr Non-Binary. You hate binary voting systems, you told us all about that on the Dusty threads. You cannot get any less binary than a system that rates every measurable action every player does. Why do you think player ratings doesn't rate Daicos anywhere near where you rate him?
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It’s only how Fadge had them rated that has relevance.
Yeah.
Every person who votes on every individual award (who consistently have Daicos amongst the top 3), and every person who ranks the relative ability of players playing the game (who all have Daicos in the top 2) are wrong, and the Player Ratings algorithm (who had Bobby Hill as the 15th best player on the ground in the 2023 Grand Final) is right....
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They need to develop another midfielder and move past building their entire fwd transition around one player in Daicos.
He’s a great player but not getting a kick in the final quarter of a prelim when the game is on the line…as the number 1 mid for a team.
That’s not going to get it done.
He’s a great player but not getting a kick in the final quarter of a prelim when the game is on the line…as the number 1 mid for a team.
That’s not going to get it done.
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