Do Collingwood need to enter a rebuild phase?

[Mynamesinuse]

Yeah.

Every person who votes on every individual award (who consistently have Daicos amongst the top 3), and every person who ranks the relative ability of players playing the game (who all have Daicos in the top 2) are wrong, and the Player Ratings algorithm (who had Bobby Hill as the 15th best player on the ground in the 2023 Grand Final) is right....

Awards are terrible

Viney 3 Votes…..

 

[Mynamesinuse]

They need to develop another midfielder and move past building their entire fwd transition around one player in Daicos.
He’s a great player but not getting a kick in the final quarter of a prelim when the game is on the line…as the number 1 mid for a team.
That’s not going to get it done.

Ned Long apparently

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Yeah.

Every person who votes on every individual award (who consistently have Daicos amongst the top 3), and every person who ranks the relative ability of players playing the game (who all have Daicos in the top 2) are wrong, and the Player Ratings algorithm (who had Bobby Hill as the 15th best player on the ground in the 2023 Grand Final) is right....

Oh dear. Fadge has already dropped Daicos being over-rated by player ratings in his most recent game as his evidence in chief to support his assertion that player ratings under-rates Daicos. Predictable from Fadge, but very sensible, as let's face it, that was a bit of a massive faux pas, own goal, self-foot shooting incident by Fadge.

This is the self same Fadge remember who hilariously made the following false claim today on this thread:

Yeah, i base my opinions on actual performance, not want i want my narrative to be, nor how i hope players perform in the future...

Fadge has now officially returned to his old chestnut, Bobby Hill's moderate 2023 Grand Final rating as his chief piece of evidence in support of why the player ratings fails to be taken in by the Daicos myth. How terrible of the player ratings to have noticed Mr Hill was not the principle reason for the 4 goals he kicked.

The other question this thread should be now asking is do Collingwood need to do a total rebuild of their supporter base?

 

[Fadge]

How terrible of the player ratings to have noticed Mr Hill was not the principle reason for the 4 goals he kicked.

How could I forget that other players kicked them for him? Including taking the hanger that led to one of his goals....

Not to mention the dish off to Pendlebury when he could have kicked his 5th...

 

[Meteoric Rise]

How could I forget that other players kicked them for him? Including taking the hanger that led to one of his goals....

Not to mention the dish off to Pendlebury when he could have kicked his 5th...

I see so in this particular game when a team-mate gave the ball off to Bobby Hill to finish the play, that was all Bobby's great work. But when Bobby gave the ball off to the only non-defender to ever player 30 finals without scoring 10 goals, for Pendlebury to finish, that was also all Bobby.

We get it Fadge. You think player ratings are wrong even though you never make sense when you try to explain why.

 

[Robroy22]

Glad you finally are seeing reason.

We can lock the Daicos thread, revist it in a few years when more information about Daicos progression is known.

All in favour....say I....

 

[Mr.X]

They’ll still be thereabouts this year, 2027 will tell a lot about Collingwood, and could be the year the decline fast

 

[Peters_Nuts]

They’ll still be thereabouts this year, 2027 will tell a lot about Collingwood, and could be the year the decline fast

It's as simple as this really. I think we'll be top 4-6 in 2026 but if we don't see kids demanding a spot over players like Sidebottom and Howe AND we miss the 8 or go out in week 1 of finals, then it's very concerning.

I suspect we're banking on free agency to bring in talent at the end of this year. If we fail to do so though and we have a down season in 2026 then alarm bells should be ringing.

 

[Robertio]

It's as simple as this really. I think we'll be top 4-6 in 2026 but if we don't see kids demanding a spot over players like Sidebottom and Howe AND we miss the 8 or go out in week 1 of finals, then it's very concerning.

I suspect we're banking on free agency to bring in talent at the end of this year. If we fail to do so though and we have a down season in 2026 then alarm bells should be ringing.