Wallace-Only play Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Newman, Deledio and Jackson in the centre square

[madtiger2005]

Cogs, Hyde and Tuck should be our main ball winners at centre clearances. I hope to see these 3 playing most of the game in the centre square. They are hard nuts and get the ball and set up play. I don't like seeing players like Jonno, Brwon and Krakeour playing long periods in the middle because they are not powerfull players. We looked very good in the first quarter today against Geelong and then we made changes in the middle and got smashed in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. I would prefer to see Newman, Jackson and Delido replace a resting Cogs, Hyde and Tuck for short spells. Talented reciever type players like Brown, Krak, Jonno are better for the team when not playing in the square. Once we get this midfield setup right, we will be alot more competitive than today.

 

[Infamy]

We need more than 6 players in the midfield rotation
Today if anything proved that we need Brown in the midfield, no good having him up forward when we don't have the troops to get it down to him

 

[madtiger2005]

we had the right players in the middle in the first quarter to win several centre clearances and get the ball forward to Brown, Richo and co. But we made unnecessary changes for the 2nd quarter and our midfield looked non existent in that quarter and that meant the same with the forwards. I can't see how we could go wrong with a Cogs, Tuck and Hyde as our main engine room. A great mix of toughness, ball carrying and strength. These guys need a few games together to really gel. Jackson and Newman are similar types and both very disciplined players with strong bodies. Deledio will add extra class. I think we fell apart in the middle when players like Jonno, Chaffey and Krak were put in there. Those 3 will get outstrengthed by Ling, Ablett, Bartel type players and that's why we got belted in the seconds quarter. I think by the time third quarter started, our midfielders confidence was gone.

 

[madtiger2005]

Rodan is another who would fit into the middle. That makes 7, but if we keep playing Jonno, Krak, Chaffey and Brown we will get more pumpings in the middle like we saw in todays 2nd and 3rd quarters.

 

[Nebula1971]

Today if anything proved that we need Brown in the midfield, no good having him up forward when we don't have the troops to get it down to him

Didn't help my Dream Team score, let me assure you... Definately a midfield player... I am afraid Terry might keep him forward as he did with the Bulldogs

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Re: Wallace-Only play Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Newman, Deledio and Jackson in the centre squ

Talented reciever type players like Jonno are better for the team when not playing in the square.

Too say Jonno is a reciever surely must be a joke let alone saying we are better off with him outside the square

 

[Darth_Tiger]

Re: Wallace-Only play Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Newman, Deledio and Jackson in the centre squ

in the 1st q our midfielers were winning the ball but wasting it inside 50. 2 points, 1. i dont blame terry for making changes for that reason, our kicks into the 50 were woeful. 2. we need more flexibility in the centre square than having 6 or so that are always there. ever heard the word rotation MT?

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

Re: Wallace-Only play Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Newman, Deledio and Jackson in the centre squ

in the 1st q our midfielers were winning the ball but wasting it inside 50. 2 points, 1. i dont blame terry for making changes for that reason, our kicks into the 50 were woeful. 2. we need more flexibility in the centre square than having 6 or so that are always there. ever heard the word rotation MT?

No point getting into an arguement with an Idiot Darth, you are better off smacking your head against a wall.

 

[kretchy]

I think Sugar needs to be put back into the square and into the midfield last year he was by far our best clearance player.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Re: Wallace-Only play Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Newman, Deledio and Jackson in the centre squ

I think Sugar needs to be put back into the square and into the midfield last year he was by far our best clearance player.

Yep, I agree. Also, it would be easier for him to 'direct traffic' in that position aswell.

 

[madtiger2005]

Hyde, Tuck, Newman and Deledio are all better kicks than Johnson. Did you consider that the wings or defenders were not delivering the ball forward properly? I'd prefer to win centre clearances than to get embarrased at the centre bounces. The first quarter formula was right and Terry made a mistake to change this formula. I think Terry should have Johnson on the flank full time. I don't believe he's the player who will win us many centre breaks. We got pumped many times last season in the middle when players like Johnson, Krakaouer, Bowden and tivendale started in there. It's good too see these players spending less time in the centre square, but I prefer to see them outside the square almost always. 7 players is plenty to rotate through the midfield, but rotations should only be needed when a player is tired or struggling. Not for the hell of it. If we can have Cogs,Tuck and Hyde playing 80% in the centre square and Newman, Deledio and Jackson as back ups. We will win alot of the ball, which was proven in the first quarter. But if you guys insist that Johnson, Brown and Krakouer play there, we will get embarrased further. Johnson is an endurance player with courage, not a power player. A running player will get alot of the ball but won't break open a contest.

 

[Weaver]

Hyde, Tuck, Newman and Deledio are all better kicks than Johnson.

My put your best kicks in the guts when all they can do is scuff an around-the-courner kick under pressure? Much better to have your good kicks running past and in space to use their skill.

Did you consider that the wings or defenders were not delivering the ball forward properly? I'd prefer to win centre clearances than to get embarrased at the centre bounces. .

Obviously. But the other team has a say in that as well. Ottens and King were winning the hitouts and their midfielders were beating ours.

The first quarter formula was right and Terry made a mistake to change this formula. I think Terry should have Johnson on the flank full time. I don't believe he's the player who will win us many centre breaks.

Johnson is a big part of winning centre breaks. Most clubs use a stopper, blocker and a kicker in the middle. Johnson's role is to block opposition players out so we can get a kick away.

We got pumped many times last season in the middle when players like Johnson, Krakaouer, Bowden and tivendale started in there. It's good too see these players spending less time in the centre square, but I prefer to see them outside the square almost always.

It is not as easy as that. Fatigue plays a part, form plays a part, and the opposition plays a part. Bowden was being tagged for example. Putting him into the centre bounce is a great way of breaking a tag. The opposition has to decide whether to send a 'lesser' tagging player into the bounce, or whether to start him outside the square and give Bowden a chance at a touch at the bounce.

7 players is plenty to rotate through the midfield, but rotations should only be needed when a player is tired or struggling. Not for the hell of it.

Rubbish, you rotate them so that they never get tired or struggle. That was the Walls way. Run guys on the ball with no changes and then watch them all dead on their feet in the last quarter when you actually need guys to raise their game.

If we can have Cogs,Tuck and Hyde playing 80% in the centre square and Newman, Deledio and Jackson as back ups. We will win alot of the ball, which was proven in the first quarter.

Proven, rubbish. Tuck was playing his first game as an onballer and Cogs has missed the best part of 2 years as a result of an injury brought about by playing too much and not resting. Jackson and Deledio have proven nothing.

But if you guys insist that Johnson, Brown and Krakouer play there, we will get embarrased further. Johnson is an endurance player with courage, not a power player. A running player will get alot of the ball but won't break open a contest.

Johnson is definately an in and under power player. He just came up against a far better one in Cameron Ling. Krakouer is great around the packs when his mind is switched on. Brown has never been anything other a receiver and I wouldn't bother using him in the square other than to break a tag or spell someone.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

Re: Wallace-Only play Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Newman, Deledio and Jackson in the centre squ

No point getting into an arguement with an Idiot Darth, you are better off smacking your head against a wall.

thank you for pointing it out. i will just laugh at him instead.

 

[sante]

Re: Wallace-Only play Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Newman, Deledio and Jackson in the centre squ

Too say Jonno is a reciever surely must be a joke let alone saying we are better off with him outside the square

Agree! Johnson is one of our hard ball getters. I dont think Bowden, Tivendale, Chaffey and Krakouer should be in there. Deledio should be given a go.